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Old 05-29-2009, 10:54 AM   #26
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But if you killed your grandfather, you would be dead because he was your grandfather. If you were dead, were you really there to kill him in the first place?
Time police arive a second before you do, grab you and kill you thereby you havn't killed your gradfather and the future is safe.
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:31 PM   #27
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Or alternatively;

The timeline runs as it would have up til the point where you would have gone back in time. At this point, you're no longer present to go back in time, so the whole system "resets" as it were, to the timeline where your grandfather survived. Timeline then plays through from when your grandfather would have died, until it reaches the point where you go back in time, upon which it "resets" again.

World #001 2009 -> World #001 1950
World #001 1950 -> World #002 1950
World #002 1950 -> World #002 2009
World #002 2009 -> World #002 1950
World #002 1950 -> World #001 1950
World #001 1950 -> World #001 2009
ad infinitum

We'd never know, because we'd be reset each time.

Or:

Man in world #001 2009 goes back to world #001 1950, kills grandpa. He then travels forward in time again, ends up in world #002 2009. As far as I can see (with the exception of the time travel itself) the principles of physics have been obeyed; mass and energy have been conserved, just moved between world #001 and world #002. In world #001, the man becomes just another missing person, whereas in world #002, he appears to have no origin because he was born in an entirely different timeline.

I prefer the second.
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:48 PM   #28
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My theory: Man goes back, kills Grandpa. Grandpa dies, thereby A) Man isn't born or B) Man doesn't meet him. If A is correct the Man couldn't be born to kill Grandpa, thereby the Grandfather never died, causing the Timeline to reset. If B is the case, then he never would have had a reason to kill him, unless he's a total psycho, so the timeline would be the same as if it never happened.
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:21 AM   #29
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Or alternatively;

The timeline runs as it would have up til the point where you would have gone back in time. At this point, you're no longer present to go back in time, so the whole system "resets" as it were, to the timeline where your grandfather survived. Timeline then plays through from when your grandfather would have died, until it reaches the point where you go back in time, upon which it "resets" again.

World #001 2009 -> World #001 1950
World #001 1950 -> World #002 1950
World #002 1950 -> World #002 2009
World #002 2009 -> World #002 1950
World #002 1950 -> World #001 1950
World #001 1950 -> World #001 2009
ad infinitum

We'd never know, because we'd be reset each time.

Or:

Man in world #001 2009 goes back to world #001 1950, kills grandpa. He then travels forward in time again, ends up in world #002 2009. As far as I can see (with the exception of the time travel itself) the principles of physics have been obeyed; mass and energy have been conserved, just moved between world #001 and world #002. In world #001, the man becomes just another missing person, whereas in world #002, he appears to have no origin because he was born in an entirely different timeline.

I prefer the second.
You mean like DBZ? :o
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:49 AM   #30
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You mean like DBZ? :o
I watched DBZ up til the Freiza dies the first time, so I never saw the time travel bit people always mention. How did they have it work?
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:36 AM   #31
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There were separate time lines. If Future Trunks killed the Androids in the present timeline, they would still be alive in the future timeline.

Likewise, Cell killed Future Trunks in the past, so he could get to the present where Future Trunks was still alive. :o
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Old 05-30-2009, 11:53 PM   #32
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The energy you'd have to use to punch a hole in the fabric of the ttime-space continuum would be that of a star. IF it could ever be done, it'd have to be a long time away.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-05-30-voa19.cfm

:O COINCIDENCE?!
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:31 AM   #33
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Yes.

COINCIDENCE?
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Old 05-31-2009, 09:22 AM   #34
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Maybe future super-intelligent rodents traveled back in time, gave us the technology for that laser to punch a hole in the space-time continuum and also the idea to give rats the human genome for speech. :O
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:23 AM   #35
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Maybe future super-intelligent rodents traveled back in time, gave us the technology for that laser to punch a hole in the space-time continuum and also the idea to give rats the human genome for speech. :O
Back to the Rats of NIMH, featuring Michael J. Fox as Marty McBrisby and Christopher Lloyd as Dr. Emmett Nicodemus?
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:05 PM   #36
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You sir, have blown my mind.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:10 AM   #37
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well i persenly think if time travel was posible you would do what you do in the past would have tecknicly have been done already so no affect on the time line and my explination for if you go back in time to kill ypur grand father would you have done it no you wouldnt have since it has yet to be done and if you tried time would a) reset b) pariduck untill proper outcome accurse witch will aventally happen 3)dialga and celibey would come and kick your butt and set time back on track 4)or like dbz and back to the futer sepret time lines. sadly i actuly understood most of the math talked about in this equation
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