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Old 08-31-2017, 09:56 AM   #3951
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Didn't you pay any attention to Ann Coulter? Harvey wasn't a result of global warming, it was a result of Houston electing a lesbian mayor. God needed to punish that transgression with a major flood, as is his usual MO.
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:34 PM   #3952
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Harvey's damage is unrelated to global warming. Global warming explains large, faster, more frequent hurricanes. It doesn't explain a hurricane deciding to park in one place to bring about the second coming of Noah's flood.
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Old 08-31-2017, 06:36 PM   #3953
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Global warming would go a long way to explain why the storm managed to sustain itself for long enough to create this kind of damage.

I agree to an extent that using that infographic in a blanket statement of "global warming caused this entirely" is incorrect, but it is hard to deny it had an obvious role to play.
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Old 08-31-2017, 07:30 PM   #3954
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Not that I'm an AGW denier or anything, but we've had a remarkably quiet decade for eastern US hurricanes and now we get a c4 and the world is back to ending again. It makes the argument seem silly to me.
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Old 08-31-2017, 07:54 PM   #3955
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What, do we need to have a C3/4/5 hurricane smack the east coast every year for climate change to be involved? That's a bit silly.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:13 PM   #3956
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...I don't want to be that girl, but this is not just "a C4", this is a storm that has caused the worst flooding in recorded history in the Houston area. Irma also looks like its going to be a C4-5 as well by the time it reaches the US as well.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:22 PM   #3957
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Global warming would go a long way to explain why the storm managed to sustain itself for long enough to create this kind of damage.
You mean how the hurricane stayed partially over the Gulf of Mexico so it could continue to draw in water?

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I agree to an extent that using that infographic in a blanket statement of "global warming caused this entirely" is incorrect, but it is hard to deny it had an obvious role to play.
What is the obvious role. There isn't one from my perspective.

Only on the level of "global warming is causing bigger, nastier hurricanes" can we make this argument, and even then, this is the first hurricane to make landfall in the US since Katrina. It's not like wrathful God is hurling hurricanes at the US every year.
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:34 PM   #3958
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Well I mean global warming fucks with the usual streams of warm and cold air. Part of the reason Harvey stayed partially over the Gulf to pull in water was because there was a high pressure system that refused to budge, which meant that Harvey had nowhere to go and spun its wheels right on top of Houston and Galveston. (I'm a little surprised to hear nothing about Galveston in the media. Apparently it's FAR worse off than Houston is. Maybe it's less well known? It got slammed by the unnamed hurricane in 1900 too, but that was a storm surge, not torrential rains.)

It's not that Harvey was a nasty hurricane in and of itself (at least, nastier than normal), or that global warming caused Harvey to happen. Instead, the argument is that the unique situation that Harvey caused (a hurricane sits still and dumps historic rainfall on its victim cities) was a direct result of climate change.

With Katrina, it's just that NO was not prepared for the massive storm surge that the hurricane brought in its wake. If Katrina had happened now, I don't think we'd see people talking about global warming at all, although it probably should have been a talking point even in 2005 (higher sea levels = bigger storm surge).
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:56 PM   #3959
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Old 09-01-2017, 02:17 PM   #3960
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Harvey is seriously the first tropical storm to make landfall in the US since Katrina? Did we suddenly forget that Sandy was a thing that decimated a bunch of the east coast or was that thing in another league entirely
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Old 09-01-2017, 05:31 PM   #3961
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Technically Sandy was a post-tropical cyclone when it came ashore.

That's still a semantic though.
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Old 09-02-2017, 10:52 AM   #3962
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The surrounding wind field of a hurricane largely (albeit not entirely) determines a storm's path, whereas ocean temperature most directly impacts rate of growth and intensity of a storm. As with any storm, a hurricane's path considered mathematically chaotic, that is that systematic long term predictions are very difficult because they are sensitive with respect to initial conditions, and depend continuously on interactions with their changing environment. It is largely difficult to pinpoint the reason that a singular storm behaved in the way that it did during its lifetime, and to attribute a single storm to "effects from global warming" is perhaps jumping the shark in terms of scientific certainty.

A very good point was brought up by Mozz about us having a relatively quiet decade for hurricanes. Because singular storms are relatively difficult to study the causes of (there's simply too much data to work with), we instead study trends of storms and study new storms in relation to what we already generally know of others. If we subscribe to the logic that "global warming is a significant cause of hurricane activity", we would expect a more consistent trend of there being more, stronger storms than what we would otherwise expect with respect to other factors. This is patently not the case. Having said that, it's also not as simple as saying "we haven't had activity lately, so it can't be global warming." The trend simply does not suggest such as certainty, and a ten-year trend on this kind of scale is largely insubstantial.

My point here is as follows: It is largely beyond our knowledge of both mathematics and atmospheric science to necessarily attribute or dissociate any short term frequency/intensity of hurricanes to the effects of global warming.

Geet's post is also good and discusses something largely different than the content of this post.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:31 PM   #3963
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I've been watching the press conferences held by the Las Vegas police department with regard to Steven Paddock and they've been pretty depressing. Everything we've learned about Paddock is that he was incredibly smart, and the LVPD is not, so their efforts to try and discern his well-hidden tracks come across as futile and inept.

Their latest breaking news: Paddock may have had an undiagnosed mental disease. Source: LVPD investigators.

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How on earth did Sherlock Holmes solve crimes in the 19th century without the ability to review a criminal's Facebook wall?!
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:03 PM   #3964
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So Trump is declaring a war on opioids.

That's not a bad idea. I've seen first-hand in opioid capital of the US. But, overdose is not what people should be focusing on - it's the addiction and dependence.

I find it ironic too that Trump has vowed to ban addictive opioids but his first initiative is to ban fentanyl - one of the least addictive of the opioids. In my entire time of drug testing, I never saw a single fentanyl positive, one of two drugs to never give a true positive (along with the discontinued propoxyphene).

This is the wrong approach anyway - trying to fight poverty is the easier route, than to fight the condiments of poverty.
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Old 10-26-2017, 05:09 PM   #3965
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I think it's a bit reductionist to link the opioid epidemic solely to poverty, though it is a big factor. There are also a lot of people who are hooked on heroine because of things like chronic pain due to an accidental injury or medical condition that turned to hard drugs as a result of actions made by lawmakers to reverse the damage done by prescription pain meds. That in of itself is a big factor and something that needs to be addressed at the same time.
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:19 PM   #3966
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There are also a lot of people who are hooked on heroine because of things like chronic pain due to an accidental injury or medical condition that turned to hard drugs as a result of actions made by lawmakers to reverse the damage done by prescription pain meds.
A colleague of mine reportedly worked with someone like this several years back. The heroin addict was in his early 20s, a university student, and came from an upper middle class or rich family. He was involved in some sort of accident and it gave him debilitating back pain. Not sure as to the particulars, but the guy wound up self-medicating on heroin, became addicted, and got fired from my friend's place of work when they suspected the guy was self-dosing on the clock. (He would vanish to the bathroom for long periods of time, always taking a backpack with him. He would also get fidgety and "Dude, seriously, wtf are you doing?"-ish if anyone ever tried to touch the backpack.) I realize this is a case of the Telephone Game meets anecdotal evidence, but still. Just wanted to chime in and say that I've heard of something like this before.
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I think it's a bit reductionist to link the opioid epidemic solely to poverty, though it is a big factor. There are also a lot of people who are hooked on heroine because of things like chronic pain due to an accidental injury or medical condition that turned to hard drugs as a result of actions made by lawmakers to reverse the damage done by prescription pain meds. That in of itself is a big factor and something that needs to be addressed at the same time.
It's the biggest factor by far, I think, and has far more broad negative effects beyond drug addiction. In a world without street drugs, something else will torture the impoverished. But in such a world, those with chronic pain will either have to tolerate it, or use something else.

Something I neglected to mention in Trump's press conference - in naming fentanyl, he explicitly highlighted that the street drugs are coming from China. To my knowledge, this only applies to a situation last year when drug dealers got a "powerful" mix of heroin that started killing people, because - as you might expect - it was laced with fentanyl. That fentanyl did come from China but the drug was dropped because it was too powerful, and as I mentioned, not as addictive as equal parts heroin.

Naming China is in line with Trump's anti-globalist bent, citing a single case of imported drugs as an excuse to try and attack China indirectly. We know he hates the Chinese, so this might be considered his first economic salvo.
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Old 10-27-2017, 03:19 AM   #3968
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Hey, turns out there's this medicine that is a lot less harmful than opioids and proven to, if absolutely nothing else, at least show promise in cases of chronic pain.

Unfortunately it turns out Sean Spicer actually thinks recreational marijuana use is a cause of the opioid epidemic. Bummer.

It's just so continually infuriating that even when Trump does anything remotely good it's undercut by everything else he's done and is doing against it. Marijuana has led to a better outcome for chronic pain sufferers than everything else that has been tried so far. Trump doing this rings so hollow when Spicer refuses to do anything about marijuana. Also when he's put literally no new funding into it, either.
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:42 PM   #3969
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so how about this whole mueller thing
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It pisses me off that Trump has given his blessing to Broadcomm-Qualcomm, a heinous merger idea, but he is trying to cockblock AT&T-Time Warner because of his beef with CNN. Walgreens-Rite Aid was blocked because Trump can't be arsed to understand healthcare.
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It's almost like Trump is a petty and incompetent clown who has little to know understanding of what the job he signed on for requires
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why is blocking the AT&T Warner merger such a bad move behind possibly being motivated by his hate boner? From the little I know about the deal it puts way too much power in the hands of AT&T when it comes to control of content. I thought this kind of shit was a hot button "fuck no" issue, what with the FCC wanting to kill internet neutrality?
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why is blocking the AT&T Warner merger such a bad move behind possibly being motivated by his hate boner? From the little I know about the deal it puts way too much power in the hands of AT&T when it comes to control of content. I thought this kind of shit was a hot button "fuck no" issue, what with the FCC wanting to kill internet neutrality?
Basic idea is that AT&T will cause prices to rise for all television services. This is caused by 3 things:

1. AT&T charges other content providers more for permission to broadcast their content
2. AT&T zero-rates its own programming, making it superior to competitors
3. AT&T requires AT&T service to access Time Warner properties

#1, producers pass on the charge to consumers. In #2, providers raise their rates to allow for their services to compete with the zero-rating. In #3, AT&T raises the price of its own service since you have to use AT&T to access certain things.

A current example is right now is DirecTV NOW. It is like the normal DirecTV broadcast over internet stream. It still has commercials and worse on-demand lineup than competitors, but it's the ONLY way to get Fox News over legal stream. If you want Fox News, you have to use AT&T (#3).

DirecTV NOW is zero-rated on AT&T service, while other television/movie services (Netflix, Hulu, Sling) are not. Even if you are a T-Mobile user, true fidelity HD video for streaming uses 3 GB per hour. You'll blow past your deprioritization threshold in 16 hours. But for AT&T Wireless customers, DirecTV NOW will never slow down or get worse picture even if you use 9999 TB (#2).

Prices rose after the acquisition of NBC by Comcast (#1), which is amazing to me how that happened, it is a huge blight on the DoJ for allowing it.

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There's legitimate reasons to oppose AT&T-TWX, although less so now since the aforementioned Comcast situation, but to openly oppose it due to Trump's beef comes across as stupid and petty.
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