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Old 09-28-2014, 12:16 AM   #3351
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Old 09-28-2014, 12:41 PM   #3352
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Old 09-28-2014, 05:38 PM   #3353
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Am I completely out of touch or does this just sound terrible in every way?
Following up on this: I remembered that the only stat Transform doesn't copy is HP. Jesus.
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Old 09-28-2014, 08:33 PM   #3354
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Old 09-28-2014, 08:34 PM   #3355
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Old 09-28-2014, 08:35 PM   #3356
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I just abuse the hell out of Toxic. If it's a alum recycler, use weather. If safety goggles, refer back to Toxic. If Magic Bounce, refer back to weather and or just beating it.
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Old 09-28-2014, 08:42 PM   #3357
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Old 09-28-2014, 11:56 PM   #3358
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:22 PM   #3359
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BigDeer? Not if BellyJet has anything to say about it!

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Old 09-29-2014, 07:39 PM   #3360
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Can you please tell me why you run Stone Edge on Keldeo? What does it hit that another move won't hit harder?
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:43 PM   #3362
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Flying coverage as special rock moves don't exist that Keldeo learns, unless they're named Hidden Power Which I'm using already as another type.

Pretty decent win.

Down to the wire...but why is he running Air Balloon on Ho-Oh?
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:20 PM   #3363
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Remind me again why you need Stone Edge to hit Fliers when Scald will hit them hard enough.

>Shednija

If he isn't using Ice, he is using Ghost. Most likely.
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:48 PM   #3364
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Actually, I'm using HP Fire to hit Grasses. Don't want to get caught with a Ferro when BIG Kaiju ain't around to handle it.

As for Stone Edge, I just get really anxious when I don't have something to directly answer something with SE. So it's kinda force of habit (and Rayquayza exists so that too?).
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:49 PM   #3365
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Remind me again why you need Stone Edge to hit Fliers when Scald will hit them hard enough.

>Shednija

If he isn't using Ice, he is using Ghost. Most likely.
I think he's running... Fire? It's SE vs Breloom.

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I just don't understand why you use it for Ferro. You have Secret Sword, which hits it hard as fuck anyways. Rayquaza is easily handled by Icy Wind. The only HPs you should run are Ice (if running dual Water STAB), Ghost (for the rare Celebii and Jellicent), or Psychic / Flying (since Mega Venusaur is such a bitch).
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:55 PM   #3367
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Ferro is an example. Breeloom, as one of my latest replays shows, is another. It's for grasses in general (and I'm not sure of Secret sword is DC. Not only that but for Ferro's case, 60x 4 is pretty damn hard and hits their special defense (Secret sword hits their heavily invested physical Defense) so theoretically it's probably better off.

Also I have not seen a single MegaVenusaur since my return to Übers. NOT ONE.
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It sounds good on paper, but its NOT in practice.

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252 SpA Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Ferrothorn: 218-260 (61.9 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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252 SpA Keldeo Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Ferrothorn in Rain: 84-100 (23.8 - 28.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
This isn't just a calc to prove you wrong, this is the actual Smogon recommended Ubers set for Ferrothorn. Seeing as you have Kyogre you can't say that HP Fire will always be 4x, so its a poor choice.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:00 PM   #3369
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Since when has Ferrothorn been specially invested defense wise? Is it not mainly a physical wall in OU? I'm sorry, but I have a hard time believing that with stuff like MegaLuke and MegaChicken about, Ferrothorn is suddenly gonna go special. It doesn't click.
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Ferrothorn doesn't wall either of them if its physically defensive. Think for a moment of what two Uber giants Ferrothorn might wall if its specially defensive.

Hint: One of them is on your team!
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:04 PM   #3371
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And what does Kyogre normally run that hits Ferrothorn for shit? Don't suddenly tell me it's Keldeo either, because I've seen one or two outside my own, quite unbefitting usage for such a "giant." Also, I'm always doing my best to not let my moves be weather hindered. If someone's set up Sun, I keep my ass off Water moves either as long as possible or until sun is gone. I will not be using Hp Fire in Rain as you propose. I'm not that goddamn bad. Also, you forgot a positive nature modifier for Keldeo's Special Attack.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:09 PM   #3372
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252+ SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Ferrothorn in Rain: 145-171 (41.1 - 48.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
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252+ SpA Kyogre Surf vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Ferrothorn in Rain: 87-103 (24.7 - 29.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
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252+ SpA Kyogre Thunder vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Ferrothorn: 48-56 (13.6 - 15.9%) -- possibly the worst move ever
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252+ SpA Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Ferrothorn: 78-92 (22.1 - 26.1%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
Ferrothorn can take any hit from the most popular set. It can take a Focus Blast from Xerneas and 2HKO with Gyro Ball. It will completely wall Xerneas without it. My advice? Start doing the calcs yourself, its clear you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:11 PM   #3373
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>Assuming I use Water Spout
>Assuming I use Surf
>Assuming I use Ice Beam
>Assuming

They say when you assume you make an ass of you and me. Quite frankly, I'd rather you stop making an ass of the both of us, Blaze. You need to quit telling me what the hell my team is and isn't, because if you assume I do x when I do y, method x won't work for y. You can't give advice if you're going to assume what my team is. Also LOL @ ASSUMING I'd Keep Kyogre in on Ferrothorn. I have Mega Gyara for that.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:13 PM   #3374
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Do you not read. I said /from the most popular set/. Obviously if it can take a Water Spout it can take a Hydro Pump and obviously if it can take an Ice Beam it can take Blizzard without getting 2HKOd.
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You again ASSUME I give a damn about what the most popular set is. I'll do what I want and it doesn't involve keeping Kyogre in on the few Ferrothorns I see among the other grass types.
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