[DS] POKéMON Black & White

[Concept]

Originally Posted by Breeder KJ

Can I just say that i'm loving the new way they did HMs no badge required is nice and I like that TMs are now unbreakable!!

What I really want to know is where everyone stands on this one: Reshiram or Zekrom?

This is where I stand.

[Doppleganger]

Originally Posted by empoleon dynamite

Dopple have you considered catching an Altaria on Route 14? It comes with Dragon Dance and Cotton Guard, so all you need to do to set up a sweep is come in on something it can handle and spam those two moves. It learns Dragon Claw and Earthquake (or Substitute) via TM, defonetly one of the more easier options considering it can be caught in shakey patches.

I'm not post-story yet, it would undoubtedly be easier, but since I'm trying to build an all Gen V team I want to preserve as many trainers as possible to load up experience on when I'm done with EV training.

Loki introduced me to MetalKid's IV calculator, but there's a problem. According to it, my Litwick's Special Attack is impossibly high. These are all accurate values, though I used a Rare Candy for the last one.

[Talon87]

You can't use the IV calculator and expect reliable results if you've already been using the Pokemon in battles and haven't kept track of the EVs it's gained from every last one of these.

In your case, you shouldn't even be using an IV calculator: for the last time -.-;, go get the B/W-compatible version of Pokesav. Even if you never use it for any other purpose, you can (and SHOULD) be using it to see what the IVs are of every single thing you've ever caught. Much faster / much less hastle than playing the MetalKid guessing game with Rare Candies.

[Doppleganger]

Originally Posted by Talon87

You can't use the IV calculator and expect reliable results if you've already been using the Pokemon in battles and haven't kept track of the EVs it's gained from every last one of these.

I have. I've been fighting only other Litwick (+1 SA) while holding Power Lens (+4 SA). Hence the 5 for the SA in for each level up.

Originally Posted by Talon87

In your case, you shouldn't even be using an IV calculator: for the last time -.-;, go get the B/W-compatible version of Pokesav. Even if you never use it for any other purpose, you can (and SHOULD) be using it to see what the IVs are of every single thing you've ever caught. Much faster / much less hastle than playing the MetalKid guessing game with Rare Candies.

I'll look into it. I can say I haven't had any luck getting the on-board cheat engine to work, elsewise I would have cheated myself a Deino as my starter instead of using Tepig.

[Talon87]

Well, I don't know what to tell you. The calculator shouldn't be reporting impossible values if you're sure you have the right data input for the following:
* the right species
* the right stat numbers in the right columns
* the right nature
* to help it out, the right IV clue (it's a message like "Alert to sounds" or "Hates to lose")
* the right EVs in the right columns

I've had it happen where perfectly legit and virginal Pokemon were reported as having impossibly high stats on Serebii's calculator before, but I'm not so sure about MetalKid's. The only times it's ever happened to me is when I've messed up one of the things above. (Like having the nature reset on me unexpectedly back to its default setting, Adamant, when I was looking at a Modest creature. Naturally you can imagine how that might produce what the calculator perceives as an illegally large SpAtt stat!)

What I can tell you is:
1) you're using a ROM
2) Pokesav works with .sav files
3) you should have a .sav file along with the rom you're playing
4) Pokesav lets you see the IVs and EVs of anything you have and with mega-ease

If you own the games, you have to use MetalKid's services. They're great given what alternatives the fans have. (Read: shitty IV indicator NPCs in the games starting with Emerald.) But for those who can make use of Pokesav, it's insane not to use it for determining IVs.

[Rangeet]

Talon, I can't find any .sav files on my ROM. The main one is a .nds and the battery(only other file I can find) is a .dsv.

[Talon87]

That's pretty weird given that all DS games generate a .sav file when you first save the game. This is why people are able to download their .sav files from their retail paks to their computers (so they can back things up or, if they want to, so they can edit their files and then re-upload them). This is also why people are able to upload .sav files from their computers to retail paks. See: SavSender. (Note: SavSender does not work with the newer IR paks [2009/10 onward] because the IR paks automatically reset your DS when you insert them into the system. However, even the IR paks still use .sav files.)

It's possible that your emulator is saving the .sav files in a special folder somewhere. It's also possible (though I have a hard time imagining this) that your emulator is actually modifying the .nds file itself. (This shouldn't be the case though since even retail games do not do this! If they did, then it wouldn't be possible a trivial matter to download and upload .sav files, now would it?) One easy way you can rule out the latter theory is to download a virginal, never-before-used rom, see what its file size is (down to the last bit!), load it in your emulator, save once, close the emulator, and re-check the file size of the .nds file.

And it's also possible that the .dsv files are the save files on your system.

I looked up what .dsv was to see if it was possibly what your emulator was naming the save files. According to at least one source, .dsv represents homebrew video files for the DS. Don't know what that has to do with a battery. I've never seen .dsv files myself, only .nds and .sav. However, according to another source (link), it does indeed appear to be the case that .sav and .dsv are related. It looks like some emulators use the .dsv format. Dunno why as this is pretty stupid / it's not out-of-the-box compatible with retail flash carts the way that a .sav file is, but whatever. If you can find a .dsv-to-.sav converter, you should be good to go. Alternatively, it doesn't hurt you to try experimenting on your own: see if you can't open the .dsv file with Pokesav. For all I know, Pokesav natively supports both formats. I doubt it, but who knows?

[Rangeet]

I'm using DeSmuMe. It's definitely not altering the .nds file, I can tell you that. I'll see if Pokesav works with the .dsv later, too sleepy to mess around right now.

[Jerichi]

Tip on the Subway: Do Multi. If you get lucky, she'll get something like Archeops or Braviary and be able to basically sweep for you. I've managed to beat the Bosses once and get quite a bit of BP already (though only enough for 2 Power items).

Rangeet: One of the .dsv files is compatible with PokeSav (though it'll spit some weird stuff out on occasion). Try all three or whatever and one should work.

[Doppleganger]

Like Rangeet I am using DeSuMe. However, I don't even have a .dsv to play around with (all I have is the .nds). Something I tried was create a Save State under the File Menu while the emulator was on, which creates something in the Save folder called a .ds1, then change the file extension to .sav and load it with PokeSav.

I was able to get corrupted results using PokeSav with this, but I can't really trust the information I was looking at. It seemed to have gotten Litwick's IVs correct, but most of my other Pokemon were flat out wrong/contradictory with the information I had.

[Loki]

Originally Posted by Doppleganger

I have. I've been fighting only other Litwick (+1 SA) while holding Power Lens (+4 SA). Hence the 5 for the SA in for each level up.

Unless your Litwick is getting a level up per KO, it should be +5 Special Attack effort per KO, not per level up.

[Rangeet]

Doppel, look at the folder which says "Battery".

Whadda know. It worked with the .dsv file! None of my pokemon have good IV's though ;;

[Arnold]

http://www.pokemon.com/us/

Eeveelution for playing the little game (more of a certain orb is the one you get)

Had a Blonde moment yesterday, elite 4 done..the other spoiler stuff afterwards done..credits rolled, me pressing buttons randomly to get the text faster (Don't know why)..knowing full well I was pressing L+R I went and pressed A+B as well..which then clicked what I'd done....took me 4 more bloody times to finish the last bit was pissed off ;-;

[Doppleganger]

Originally Posted by Rangeetsuper

Whadda know. It worked with the .dsv file! None of my pokemon have good IV's though ;;

What version did you use?

[Rangeet]

Pokesav? I went to the bulbapedia page for Pokesav and clicked on the source link which said that this one translated the Black/White Sav to English. http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=256531

[Arnold]

GTS is out and about, site is pretty confusing..but I think at this minute i'm going into dreamworld..I think

[Weebos]

Is it amazing and wonderful?
My campus WiFi is incompatible else I'd join you.
What is the Dream World even like? All I know is that there are berries and pokemon.

[ZoraJolteon]

It's 12 hours of staring at a "Please Wait, this may take 5 minutes or more" screen.

[Kindrindra]

Originally Posted by ZoraJolteon

It's 12 hours of staring at a "Please Wait, this may take 5 minutes or more" screen.

Ah, that.

You get everything up to that point, then leave it alone for a day. Remember, EVERYONE is gonna be signing up atm.


If only my school's internet would let me on, I would be playing right now...!
With my Articuno. :3

[Selena]

Does anyone know how to transfer your eeveelution to your cart.

A step by step instruction would be nice, I have only finished the game so far.

[Lady Kuno]

Try game sync in the place where you had to save that psychic floating thing. You know, the giant bed or whatever.

I think that's it.

[Arnold]

The Evveelution from the game? It's coming may 5th when they take the game off. Read it yesterday can't remember where exactly *searches*

boom - http://www.pokemontcg.com/forums/gen...n-today?page=3

[Kindrindra]

Just nabbed myself a Cloud Nine Lickytung.

Surprisingly easy and fun. Next time I'll get one of those *coughbrokencough* Moody Bidoof. I got two of 'em.

Also, time to check if Masquerain's DW ability is any good.

[Talon87]

Originally Posted by Kindrindra

Also, time to check if Masquerain's DW ability is any good.

Originally Posted by Bulbapedia

Unnerve causes the opponent to be unable to eat its own held Berry.

Hahahahahahahaha. ^^;

And here I'm sure you were hoping for something a little more ... watery. (Oh, Masquerain. You and Volbeat both. Poor, poor Volbeat. Poor, poor Masquerain. Definitely belong on the Pokemon version of this island.)

[Kindrindra]

Originally Posted by Talon87

Hahahahahahahaha. ^^;

And here I'm sure you were hoping for something a little more ... watery. (Oh, Masquerain. You and Volbeat both. Poor, poor Volbeat. Poor, poor Masquerain. Definitely belong on the Pokemon version of this island.)

Okay, not transferring a Sirskit.

But... Didn't Vobeat get Prankster, making it able to Tail Glow+Baton Pass at Bullet Punch speed?