12-23-2015, 09:45 AM | #226 |
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How do you mean "how long it's been since XY"? Isn't XY still airing?
Speaking of that, I wanted to write a topic on Ash's strongest team, but figured that since Kalos should be winding down, it would be best to reserve that until Ash has had his time in the region conference and we get the full battle records. Since there's always the potential Ash goes all the way this time, as pathetic as he's been in Kalos.
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12-23-2015, 10:55 AM | #227 |
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tbh, I highly doubt he will win. Because, is he does, then what's left? This champion's tournament? That's like, a season at best. If Ash does win a league, then I think that would signify the end of Ash in the anime, or at least as a central protagonist.
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12-23-2015, 11:03 AM | #228 |
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Why would the anime end if he wins?
He's done it before in the filler regions.
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12-23-2015, 11:06 AM | #229 |
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I think I meant BW.
Hasn't Ash OHKOed every gym bar one this series? Behold the magical powers of Talonflame etc. |
12-23-2015, 10:24 PM | #231 | |
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Realistically, they could draw out Ash's championship challenge pretty easily as follows. Not saying that they would, just that they could:
C'mon, man. Think what you will, but you're not going to get very far by trying to convince me that there's no way the Pokémon anime could go on past one year (52 episodes) if they decided to instantly give Ash a regional conference win. EDIT: I totally forgot to note in my schematic above ... he's not even allowed to challenge other regions' E4s until he can at least get a conference win under his belt in their home regions, I'm pretty sure. So you can tack on an additional league tournament's worth of episodes for every single of those regions I just listed.
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12-23-2015, 11:14 PM | #232 |
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Johto-Kanto is unique since they share the same Elite Four. You pointed this out, but back in the early aughts that was evidence enough for why Ash was considered to win the Silver Conference. Ash even beat Gary in that tournament, so the stage was set for Ash taking the step he was too immature for back in Kanto.
Then, history happened. I do agree that a championship run would take up a whole season, or perhaps more. I think if Ash DOES win in Kalos, he'll get an IOU to either face the Elite Four later, or Diantha later, if the intent is to not have him face the bosses in this season. Though, if what I see is correct, "XY" has XYZ Summoned itself as a new series, so perhaps we'll see a lot more in this season than the Unova abortion? Also, does Diantha like Ash? I seem to recall some champion having the hots for him. I can't remember who, but she looks like Diantha.
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Oh yeah I forgot about the Mega Lucario filler stuff that they counted as a match for some reason.
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I finally watched the Diancie movie on October 25. Been meaning to post about it ever since but, as with a lot of things, there were delays. Before it gets to be too long since seeing the movie, I figured I should go ahead and post about it. We'll start off with the spoiler-free commentary. (Though as always, you're encouraged to quit reading here if you want to go into the movie completely, completely unbiased.) I enjoyed the movie. Let's just get that one out of the way. On a scale of "Like or dislike?", I liked the movie. It wasn't my favorite Pokémon movie of all time. And Pokémon movies in general I don't hold very high. But it was fine. I didn't hate the movie, and I didn't feel at the end of it like I had wasted the last 90 minutes of my life. Diancie is what sells this movie for me. She is the centerpiece, the star Pokémon of this film. If you like Diancie going in to the movie, you're going to come out of it with a smile on your face. It's great fun to see her simultaneously adorable and elegant design on screen so much, and the direction the writers decided to go in with her makes me wish for more opportunities to explore the Carbink Kingdom. Alright, time for spoiler commentary ... Spoiler: show So yes: I have finally seen the Diancie movie. No plans to watch the Hoopa movie or any of the others right now, but I can at least say that I've finally seen the first Pokémon movie that in years I was excited to see.
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01-01-2016, 02:00 PM | #235 |
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Talon, you think Mewtwo Strikes Back sucks
I don't even know who you are anymore!
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Does anyone know why Cartoon Network is just playing old episodes of XY and not new ones? Not that I don't like to see older episodes, but I watched XYZ episode 12 and I am just way to excited for it to come out in English.
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In 'Murica land, XYZ doesn't start until the 20th of this month. So expect XYZ012 to air around mid-April or so, if they don't go another a break.
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Yaaay! Serena in the the Master Class!!!!
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02-21-2016, 12:13 AM | #245 |
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Pokémon XYZ
So this morning I watched the premier of Pokémon XYZ of Cartoon Network. Really awesome!!! I'm obviously not going to give any spoilers because you guys can just watch it yourselves, but- let me just say- for some reason, I thought the very end of the episode was pretty cool. And not the mention the new theme! God I was so looking forward to a new theme.
Anyway, did you guys watch the first episode? If so, did you like it?
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02-21-2016, 12:36 AM | #246 |
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While I did not see it myself, and I'm sure there are people here willing to discuss it with you, this topic is a little redundant as we already have a Pokemon XY thread (which includes XYZ), but a more appropriate place to discuss the dub might be the Pokemon sub-forum.
Also, if you don't want to spoil anything but still want to talk about it or just to get your feelings out about it, feel free to use spoiler tags. All you need to do is this: [spoiler*] Insert spoiler here [/spoiler*] , without the *. *pretends to have mod powers to move the thread* |
02-21-2016, 09:08 AM | #247 |
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Let's just do this instead!
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03-27-2016, 02:59 AM | #248 |
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XY was nice, I want to see more character developement for Eurika, Jessie and James on XY&Z, I hope Eurika and Citron stay for the next adventures after Kalos League, I don't mind if Serena leaves, she's very very childish in my opinion..
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I'm through Episode 020 of XY&Z now. I haven't posted here in a while, mostly due to lack of time and motivation. But with an ounce of each right now, I'll go ahead and offer a general status update from when we last talked.
I've been enjoying XY&Z okay so far. As someone in the center, it feels like the two most vocal camps are the poles -- those who think it's the best season ever and those who think it's the worst season ever -- and that the rest of us are keeping quiet. I would be lying if I claimed that my enjoyment of the series is as high as it was when I was regularly making weekly posts with pictures in the early days of XY. But I don't see the doom and gloom that so many apparently do. I think the season is overall stronger than Johto and (what I have seen of) Hoenn. I would compare it, both favorably and disfavorably, with the second half of Unova. Serena: (spoilers through Episode 20 of XY&Z) Spoiler: show Ash: AK2 is optimistic that he'll go as far as the finals this time. I don't think he'll make it past the quarterfinals; and given how Unova went, even that could be too optimistic. But we'll see. XY&Z's Zygarde plot: I'm honestly not too happy with this. The execution was poisoned from the start, I fear. I didn't like the differences between Anime Lysandre and Video Game Lysandre. I disliked (and now hate) Eureka's role in all of this. I don't think Squishy is an interesting character, and I'm not too interested in his greater forms either. It's kind of sad, but for me the best episodes in this story arc have typically been the ones farthest removed from the XY&Z plot. Like Serena's subplot with the Tripokalons. Or like a number of filler episodes that I enjoyed more than most. XY&Z's Ash-Greninja plot: From where I am in the story, the jury is still too out on this one for me to be able to weigh in. I'm generally still not a fan, since I think it's silly that a Pokémon would take on the likeness of its human trainer whether undergoing normal evolution or mega evolution or burst evolution or what have you. But contradictorily I'm able to enjoy the idea of a Pokémon taking on the likeness of its trainer too. And I've always loved gijinkas, and the idea of Pokémon turning human, and the idea of humans turning into Pokémon, all sorts of ideas that relate somewhat to Ash-Greninja, so ... I guess you could sum it up by saying that 1) I'm conflicted ^^; and 2) my opinions are subject to change. The fandom seems divided right now between those who think Sun and Moon will pursue burst evolution, which appears to be the manga-derived term for when a human mega evolves into a part-human part-Pokémon fusion, and those who do not. I'm mostly doubtful that Game Freak would do this, but as for whether I think it's a lovely or a horrible idea, again, my opinions seem to fluctuate. On the one hand I think it's silly and dumb and very Digimon-y, and I can understand the many fans who claim that they'll boycott Gen 7 if burst evolution becomes canon. But on the other hand I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested to see an exploration of the topic. I don't want it to be like what the manga was -- in the manga, actual Pokémon are trapped inside of crystals and doomed to spend the rest of their lives there as catalysts for a human to burst evolve -- but the idea of a human trainer and a max-happiness Pokémon undergoing a fusion mega evolution where they become half-human half-Pokémon ... I dunno, I simultaneously think it's stupid and exhilarating. We'll see. I don't think it's the right fit for the canon games though, perhaps I can safely say. It feels like something best reserved for a fanfic or (at its most official) a spin-off game like Pokémon Ranger. And the more the years pass, the more I find myself disliking that humans are even part of the discussion period with Pokémon. Which again is kinda contradictory to some of the thoughts and feelings expressed above. But like ... I really, really like how the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series handled it. I really wish that Pokémon were a world of magical creatures -- just magical creatures -- who could all talk, think, and behave like humans do. I realize it goes against a lot of fans' headcanons for the core franchise, and that a lot of people like the idea of Pokémon as being no more intelligent than house cats and other non-primates, but I dunno ... I really like PMD's take on things, and burst evolution would take us in the opposite direction of that, locking humans into the equation as being "ultimately important to the formation of the strongest warrior" instead of writing them out as completely unnecessary and quite frankly a nuisance that's in the way of good story writing. If anyone would like to discuss episodes up through 21 (which I'll be watching shortly), feel free to engage me on those topics. I'm not going to provide essay-style posts for any of the episodes between last time and now, and going forward I can't promise more essay-style posts either. It's just going to be a lot more general and stream-of-consciousness, I think, like this post sort of was. I don't have the time to talk into the void and get no feedback, so if anyone here wants to know my thoughts on specific people, places, or events in the anime universe, you're going to have to be the one to bear the burden of initiating contact. Sorry not sorry.
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Double post. I had a few specific things I wanted to touch on, that felt like they didn't mesh with the more general discussion above.
1. I was really impressed by the depiction of Jessie's Gourgeist's Leech Seed. My impression of Leech Seed goes back to Bulbasaur vs. Venonat in Koga's gym, so to see a "leech seed" here that is more like a series of beanstalks from Jack & the Beanstalk ... it was pretty wild! 2. AK2 says that most of the people he's heard from on YouTube or elsewhere felt that (Episode 20 spoilers) Spoiler: show 3. I thought the Binacle episode was a pretty solid filler. Told AK2 I'd give it a 7 and maybe even an 8 out of 10. He informs me that the the fandom felt differently. He thought it was torture. Shrug. I liked it for what it was. 4. Pretty excited to see one of the upcoming episodes. (Without spoiling others who might not know of it, all I'll say is the codeword "clothes.") 5. Speaking of the Binacle episode -- 99% certain that the voice actor who voiced the old man is a really famous, established voice actor. I recognize his voice, I am positive of it. But I don't know his name. And have procrastinated looking back at the episode's credits to see who he is. Anyway, 99% certain that it was another awesome cameo from veteran voice actors.
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