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Old 09-02-2014, 06:04 AM   #3126
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Somewhat. But I got Murphy to laugh in my face a lot when I went to use Rock Slide, especially with birdbait.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:11 AM   #3127
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Murphy's Law is just a combination of confirmation bias and negativity bias with a humorous twist. The Law of Small Numbers is a real thing due to the nature of randomness. :P
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:51 AM   #3128
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Law of Small Numbers.
I have 587 registered battles on the Zuisho account for VGC 2014. I have used Heat Wave in at least two-thirds of these matches. The law of small numbers protects you when it's two to three uses per game and a total of only six or seven games. It's out the window when we're talking roughly four hundred separate trials.
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:31 PM   #3129
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I have 587 registered battles on the Zuisho account for VGC 2014. I have used Heat Wave in at least two-thirds of these matches. The law of small numbers protects you when it's two to three uses per game and a total of only six or seven games. It's out the window when we're talking roughly four hundred separate trials.
I don't know why you made this post. I wasn't talking to you, and I get what you are saying. But you and I both know that Myles doesn't battle as much as you or I do. So....your point?
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:35 PM   #3130
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I don't know why you made this post. I wasn't talking to you, and I get what you are saying. But you and I both know that Myles doesn't battle as much as you or I do. So....your point?
"That even if Myles is saying the right thing for the wrong reasons, I am still saying the right thing for the right reasons."
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:36 PM   #3131
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Well I wouldn't put that point to you anyways, although I am curious on what Smogon's data is on all uses.
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Old 09-02-2014, 02:37 PM   #3132
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Murphy's Law is just a combination of confirmation bias and negativity bias with a humorous twist. The Law of Small Numbers is a real thing due to the nature of randomness. :P
In that way I use it wrong. I actually use Murphy's Law more as a joke of "and it went horribly wrong!"
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:36 PM   #3133
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Just played two kids in a row who used Protect on the second-to-last turn of the game when it had nothing going for it:
  • I was not burned or poisoned
  • They had no prayer of PP stalling me.
  • They had no means of recovery. (No Rest, no Leftovers, no Wish, etc.)
That is all. [/minor venting]
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:37 PM   #3134
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Stalling for time to try and invent a strategy maybe? Heck if I know.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:39 PM   #3135
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No in this case its really just sore losers.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:55 PM   #3136
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No in this case its really just sore losers.
I don't even think it's sore losers in most cases. I think it's kids emulating professional play but too stupid and/or inexperienced to understand why the pros make the plays they do. "I saw a pro using Protect towards the end of the game when all hope seemed lost for him and he won! Therefore I should do it too! " I agree that some players do it just because they're sore losers. Heck, maybe it's even most of them. But I don't think it's most, and certainly not all.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:56 PM   #3137
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Sore losers wouldn't fight to the end though, and it appears these folks did. Ill give credit where its due but if I'm wrong do correct me
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:53 PM   #3138
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So I threw together a team for Fairy Face Off and man this event is going to be ridiculous. There is basically One Acceptable Team of Garde/Mawile/Azumarill/Togekiss/Whimsicott/Sylveon.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:09 PM   #3139
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Oh look my stall squad won! I still feel like a total dick, especially with the ladder difference!

Oh look, another dickish win. God i feel BAD
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:12 PM   #3140
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>running CP Clefable without Magic Guard

...why exactly?
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:55 PM   #3141
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Im not entirely sure.

So now that Ive had some losses not to taunt, here's whats wrecked my stall team. TWO THINGS.
1. Setting up offense while i set up stall stuff. fair.
2. sWAGGER AND CONFUSION HITTING ME LIKE 80% OF THE DAMN TIME

So before I was against smogon's swagger ban because i hadnt dealt with Swager.

I just did have to deal with it. Being nearly 6-0'd by a damn ELECTRODE is fucking...can I go homicidal and kill the internet now?
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:56 PM   #3142
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I need to step back from Randbats for a bit :x

I've been playing a few matches and Stone Edge has literally missed more than half the time. One match with a Flygon VS Heatran the Heatran was spamming Lava Plumes because it knew I had nothing SE and STONE EDGE MISSED 4 TIMES IN A ROW and by the time it actually hit I was burnt and urgh.
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:30 PM   #3143
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Talon I know you've said before that Heat Wave misses more than it should, but that's purely anecdotal evidence. If you could actually provide numbers that'd probably help. Saving all the replays that you use it in would be pretty tedious but that'd be helpful.

Maybe if someone has free time/patience he can set up a 6 vs 6 custom game against himself with an all Flash Fire Heatran team on each side and record the results. That's 192 uses per game. After five games and change (to give 1000 results for nice numbers) report back with findings.
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:32 PM   #3144
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Maybe if someone has free time/patience he can set up a 6 vs 6 custom game against himself with an all Flash Fire Heatran team on each side and record the results. That's 192 uses per game. After five games and change (to give 1000 results for nice numbers) report back with findings.
4v4 Doubles, not 6v6 Singles. Just in case it makes a difference because of how things are programmed. Also because each use of the attack technically has two targets instead of just one, each with his own miss opportunity.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:08 PM   #3145
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:45 PM   #3146
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EGH.

So I decided to throw together a Karen team on PB.

Apparently the simulator hates me for it as every battle I had I got critted, flinched, and BSed out of half my team every damn game.

I cannot win anymore. One simulator is run by annoying elitists, the other is fraught with bad luck for me and the people who built it actually think Stance Change triggers during sleep and other immobilizers. Not to mention the MORONS who think an Emboar that just had Charm used on it was going to OHKO something w/o a critical hit and think that soemthing that 2HKO's with a crit would have 2HKO'd anyway without it. God, each passing day makes me hate comp more and more.
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:50 PM   #3147
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the people who built it actually think Stance Change triggers during sleep and other immobilizers. Not to mention the MORONS who think an Emboar that just had Charm used on it was going to OHKO something w/o a critical hit and think that soemthing that 2HKO's with a crit would have 2HKO'd anyway without it.
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that everyone who has a registered PB account, given you're forced to give them some sort of e-mail address, is automatically enrolled for a forum account. If that's the case, then you should bring these sorts of things to their attention in a polite, helpful manner on their forum. Not that you can't complain to your friends about it in private too. Just saying, if you've signed up to be an early adopter of PB willingly, then beta testing is part of what comes with that territory. If you don't want to beta test, then that's fine too. Neither do I! But you shouldn't be playing an open beta in that case then. Wait for the finished product.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:06 PM   #3148
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I have mentioned it. They said "No, it works fine" despite me knowing that thats nto how it works. if it IS how it works, then I need to have a talk with Smogon because then theyve been doing it wrong long enough to give birth to a child.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:20 PM   #3149
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Wait. I've seen Stance Change activate during Sleep on both Smogon and PB.

>The Ability activates prior to and independently of any checks for status conditions that may stop the execution of the user's attack, such as sleep or confusion.

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Old 09-03-2014, 07:25 PM   #3150
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Well I could have SWORN it never worked that way for me.
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