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I'm going to buy one for myself, then buy the other one at a reduced price from a friend of mine when he inevitably gets bored with it. That's basically what I've done with every version that I didn't have. |
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In R/B/G/Y/FR/LG, neither Oak or your parent thought you were going to fight Team Rocket. In G/S/C/HG/SS, neither Oak, Elm or your parent thought you'd be fighting the Rockets (again). The Kimono Girls were the people that let you fight Lugia/Ho-oh and their not really the people taking care of the player. In R/S/E, Stephen straight up tells you not to come to Sootopolis after the titans are released. D/P/Pt was the first game where someone encourages you to fight the version mascot and crime syndicate. That was Rowan. I don't know about you, but Rowan, despite being a professor, always seemed a few doughnuts short of a dozen. B/W has Alder and the GLs trusting you, but only after making sure you're completely okay with it (at the Museum) and even after that, you're still the back up plan in case Alder can't beat N. If you don't feel like reading that: It isn't until Gen IV/V that someone actually expects you to fight the big bad and in the latter's case, your battling is only conditional to Alder's loss. |
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02-26-2012, 12:30 AM | #53 |
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You're preoccupied on my point about the criminal organization take-downs while completely ignoring that IN THIS WORLD YOU CAN CATCH THE GOD OF ALL CREATION AND HAVE HIM OBEY YOU. x 10,000 As well as all the other points.
The parents' poor logic has nothing to do with TR and everything to do with bears, tigers, and other ferocious animals that might injure or kill their precious children. The poor logic to do with having a child defeat TR has got nothing to do with the parents' poor logic. They're two totally unrelated things, yet you've bizarrely linked them together, creating an argument I never made such that you can defeat it -- as that's ALL you're capable of doing.
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I'm pretty sure every example you gave can be umbrellaed under "Who in their right mind would let a ten year old do this shit?". Everything I said basically says, "The adults obviously don't have clue that you're going to catch God or take down crime syndicates when you start your journey, so they let you go anyway." relating it the whole "Real World comparison" thing. If you're ten and your parents send you off into the world where they won't see you for days/weeks/months at a time, they have no fucking clue what you'll be doing out there: be it stubbing your toes or bending the king of creation to his knees before you."
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Okay, enough. You clearly aren't thinking clearly since you keep taking my "GameFreak made a world where the unlikely is likely" and you keep linking it back to the parents' ignorance of what their kids are doing. It's like if I said, "Batman universe has some weird logic" and you kept saying "But Bruce's parents don't know what he's doing!"
Back on topic, please. B2W2 discussion. Do you guys think there's a chance for a renovated graphics engine? Or do you think it'll be the same one as in B&W?
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If they can get around it, fantastic, but if not then here is what I hope: That B/W 2 are to B/W what G/S were to R/B. I hope that, while there may not be new Pokemon, that there will be potentially another region, 16 gyms, geography changes, "what happened to N and Team Plasma", etc. Wishful thinking, obviously, probably won't happen, but this would be great. As there still hasn't been confirmation if it's a real sequel or a revision... it's hard to say. I just hope this would be like the FFXII-2 to FFXII. It's really hard to say. ... :O You know, this may sound so crazy, but there hasn't been a Gen without Kanto in it yet. What if... nahhhhhh....
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That said, don't particularly care for the HURR DURR Kyurem forums, but I would expect B/W 2 will probably follow Platinum's footsteps with the transformation gimmick largely being the province of the box mascot/3rd 670 legend (IIRC the alternate form hooks for Kyuurem are actually in the original B/W, albeit unused). Of course, if Kyuurem STILL can't break OU even with the transformations I will laugh my ass off.
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02-26-2012, 03:36 AM | #61 |
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Serebii is staying pretty tame about the whole thing. Kinda surprised by that.
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Just saw the most AMAZING idea on SPP's new discussion forum, and it TOTALLY ties in with my idea, that(in its new, edited version) is THE MOST AMAZING GAME EVER. What's more, is it would TOTALLY embody EVERYTHING Black and White is about - Showing two perspectives. I am Dubbing this... The N Theory. Quotes from Serebii: Spoiler: show |
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RSEFRLG only worked because RSE and RBY occured at the same time(in the timeline) and DPPtHGSS only worked because DPPt and GSC occurred at the same time(in the timeline) The problem arises that Black and White DEFINAETLY takes place sometime after all the other games. It wouldn't make sense to make a RSE remake at ALL. I'd like to point out that this gives further weight to the N Theory. ;) Also, before any of you mention it, I concede to the biggest flaw in the N Theory being the Silent Protagonist tradition. None of the main characters from any game has ever had dialogue before INCLUDING when they've appeared in other games. Despite N not needing to talk for my theory to work, he DID talk in B/W, which, as Red showed us in G/S/C, is a no-no. The second major flaw is the starter issue. N did not have a unova starter. Sure the game can let you pick from three other pokemon, but it wouldn't be the same. Any other flaws(such as gender, name, interactions with others), with enough thought and respect to past examples, can be dismissed. For example: Why can't N be a female just like "Red" can be a female in FR/LG? It will not be the canon of the character, but it is not a legitimate disproval of the theory. Like Red, there is also no reason the game should force your name to be 'N'. Again, it won't be cannon, but why not? It also explains why his name is so... bland...
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The N Theory is nice, but it's too out there for what TPC and Gamefreak would do. They'd never be so bold.
And to be honest, I don't really want to be N, sorry. I want to be me. N has already been given an identity, whether it's a prequel or not. Now, as for the timeline: I completely botched that, you're right. I thought I'd heard somewhere before that B/W took place during R/B/Y, but that simply cannot happen because, as you say, Cynthia is in it. However... this doesn't take away from the idea that this is a ~year or so, assuming B/W takes place ~3-5 years after RBY, after Team Rocket's been kicked out of Kanto and Johto for good. I don't know, I doubt it will happen, but like I said, we've seen an iteration of Kanto in every gen up to this point, so... and besides, if they do make R/S remakes separate of the game as Masuda has said it's being considered, then throwing Kanto into BW2 would be their way of saying "This is our way of remaking Fire Red and Leaf Green... by continuing the story you haven't yet seen." Saffron City would be as alive as Castelia, and even border on over into Celadon and Vermilion (much like the real Tokyo), which would be very nifty. ONCE AGAIN JUST WISHING HERE.... blah [edit] HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR?! Last edited by deoxys; 02-26-2012 at 04:29 AM. |
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In all honesty, I wouldn't mind going back to Hoenn. I think it'd be cool to see the unique places of Hoenn (like Fortree City for example) in the same graphics as BW. Plus it somewhat kills two birds with one stone: we get a follow ul to BW along with a partial Hoenn remake.
That said, Kanto wouldn't be bad either. Saffron could be done Castelia-style like Deo said amd we'd get tge chance to see things like a rebuilt Cinnabar and possibly an "exotic" safari zone in Fuschia that enables us to catch Unovian Pokemon. |
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But I have to say that, other than the Unovian duo, they don't really look anywhere near 16. You know things are going in a new and exciting direction when Talon gets optimistic. EDIT: And it's only now that I realize something: The people of Day/Night town are worried about Kyu-Kyu eating them? HIS MOUTH IS GLUED SHUT WITH ICE.
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EDIT the first: Come to think of it, they could get around the whole "have to play as a new character because we can't deal with the pokemon the protagonst of BW already caught" thing by having a resurgant Team Plasma succeed in its plan to release all pokemon from peoples boxes, as the opening event. Still reckon new character & 8 badges all over again is more likely, though.
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Gah, why must you post such interesting theories? You're only setting us all up for disappointment. GF doesn't have the balls to pull any of this stuff, no matter how awesome it might be.
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lol, maybe it's just because I feel bad for Glacia -- worst E4 member ever? -- but I wonder: if the games do in fact take us back to Hoenn and if Kyurem, clearly, plays a big role in these games, then I wonder if maybe, just maybe, Glacia will get an important role in helping out with the Kyurem situation, what with her being (supposedly) one of the greatest Ice-type trainers in the land.
Glacia: :o ... Poooooor Glacia. Nobody loves you. =\ Glacia: It's really hard to see anything on the iPhone since the images the site loads up top are so very lo-res, but it is pretty evident that Black has blue coloration to its 2 while White has red coloration to its. Before people get too excited about that, though, keep this in mind: Zekrom's colors are already black and that shade of blue and Reshiram's colors are already white and (by way of its attacks) fiery red. So the colors could just be signifying which Kyurem form is in which game since it can be somewhat hard to tell for some people, I'm sure. Black 1 had Reshiram, so you'd expect Black 2 to star the other two. And the blue 2 indicates that it does. White 1 had Zekrom, so White 2 ought to have ReshiKyurem. And the red 2 indicates that it does. That could be all the colors signify. Maybe if I could see a higher-res picture, I could judge for myself if the blobs of color behind the titles really do seem to suggest Aqua and Magma or not.
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