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Old 02-15-2015, 06:31 AM   #3776
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That moment when you explain why Constellar Pollux's summon can't be E-Veiler'd and you both go "damn that's some next level ridiculous".
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Old 02-15-2015, 10:51 AM   #3777
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Any idea for a card that can make use for a largely dead hand?
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Old 02-15-2015, 10:53 AM   #3778
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That's a very general question and I'm not sure whatever I suggest isn't going to make things worse.
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Old 02-15-2015, 11:02 AM   #3779
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Let's say you have five cards in hand but the cards are totally dead. Searchers that can't search anything, monsters that can't be summoned, or MSTs versus a deck that run no S/T.

Something that can make use of that high quantity of cards in an impactful way.
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Old 02-15-2015, 11:04 AM   #3780
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Magical Stone of Excavation? Reload? Montage Dragon? Like the best thing to do with them is simply to get rid of them but there isn't anything I'm comfortable with suggesting that wouldn't harm a deck's consistency other ways.
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Old 02-15-2015, 11:38 AM   #3781
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Brionac and Gungnir are the two examples I came up with, although one's banned and the other isn't generic.
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Have you tried Jet Synchron actually? I know you said you had issues dumping it but it could definitely help in those situations.
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:03 PM   #3783
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The dead hand syndrome is something that happens in late game, after a loop. While Jet certainly makes use of discards, it just summons itself to make more synchro and by that time I'm largely out of extra deck monsters.

Ideally, you'd like to exchange dead cards for removal. Although dead really depends on what kind of deck you're facing.
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MAGICAL MALLET 4 DAYZ

Alternative, discard-cost spells and traps, like Karma Cut and the like.
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So I'm trying a new kind of stun deck [insert boos and hissing here] that revolves around the Traptrix monsters [insert boos and hissing here]. Naturia Traptrix, also known as Natrix.

I actually like it far more than I did H.A.T. HAT really was three good disruption engines that didn't mesh well together and while it was amazing at disruption is was purely reactive. This deck can:

A) Run a smaller amount of monsters. All you need is the basic Traptrix engine (which for me is 2x Dionaea 3x Myrmeleo) and a small amount of Naturias (3x Marron 2x Pumpkin 1x Butterfly 1x Cosmobeet 1x Rosewhip for me) and the only tech that's not of the two I'm running is Glow-Up Bulb because its the best Level 1 EARTH Plant tuner.

B) It's more offensive that HAT. Naturia Sacred Tree actually allows you make offensive pushes and use Myrmeleo as a backrow killing tool.

C) Synchros! Far better than Rank 5.

Yeah that's mainly it. I like it a lot and so far I've dismantled my other stun based decks in testing so I kinda hope it does well.
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You know just for kicks I'm going to use Exodia in my deck. Lesse if I can kill someone with it.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:44 PM   #3787
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You know just for kicks I'm going to use Exodia in my deck. Lesse if I can kill someone with it.
Pics or it didn't happen.

So to begin this deck's trial by fire I've been testing it against the Nekroz AI and I assumed it was have a mediocre match-up like most other stun decks I've used.

...I've been completely wrong. Every match so far I've won and completely dominated the AI. I have no idea what it is either that's making it work so well. I do run 18 Traps but I'm not sure that's it. I guess the only solution is to bring it to DN and start 420 Emiing it but I haven't decided.

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Main Deck: 40 cards
14 monsters / 8 spells / 18 traps

2x Traptrix Dionaea
3x Traptrix Myrmeleo
3x Naturia Marron
2x Naturia Pumpkin
1x Naturia Rosewhip
1x Naturia Butterfly
1x Naturia Cosmobeet
1x Glow-Up Bulb

3x Pot of Duality
3x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Snatch Steal
1x Soul Charge

3x Traptrix Trap Hole Nightmare
3x Vanity's Emptiness
3x Naturia Sacred Tree
3x Dimensional Prison
2x Mirror Force
2x Fiendish Chain
1x Bottomless Trap Hole
1x Solemn Warning

Extra Deck: 15
8 Synchros / 7 Xyzs
1x Armory Arm
1x Naturia Beast
1x Armades, Keeper of Boundaries
1x Naturia Barkion
1x Goyo Guardian
1x Black Rose Dragon
1x Clear Wing Synchro Dragon
1x Yazi, Evil of the Yang Zing
1x Dark Rebellion XYZ Dragon
1x Number 103: Ragnazero
1x Number 101: Silent Honor ARK
1x Castel the Skyblaster Musketeer
1x Evilswarm Exciton Knight
1x Daigusto Emeral
1x Abyss Dweller

Side Deck: 15 cards
2 Monsters / 3 Spells / 10 Traps
2x Naturia Bamboo Shoot
3x Shared Ride
3x Light-Imprisoning Mirror
3x Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror
3x Fairy Wind
1x Soul Drain
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Old 02-15-2015, 05:24 PM   #3788
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If I waited one more turn I could have killed this guy. But it's just so much faster to use other methods!

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...is that Twin-Headed Behemoth and Dodger Dragon? Keep in mind I literally just spun my head around to make sense of it.
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Old 02-15-2015, 05:45 PM   #3790
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It makes sense when they say Exodia is frustrating.



This was Turn 3. I could have waaaaaay killed him Turn 2, and I had another Mask Change 2 set. If I wasn't trying for Exodia the duel would have been long over.
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:31 PM   #3791
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...is that Twin-Headed Behemoth and Dodger Dragon? Keep in mind I literally just spun my head around to make sense of it.
Incomplete Extra Deck, Blaze. The trademark of the DN Troll. I frankly disregard any player not running 0 / 15 Extra Deck Cards immediately.
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But Kin does that! D:

Crossover Souls stuff is on DN, which means Sneeze can get his new CyDras while Dopple can look at Jar of Avarice.

So I know it will probably falter, but does anyone want to do a tourney at the moment? Some interest is being expressed in it and I wanna bring the cosplay kids Crossover Souls might not be a bad thing to try out.
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Old 02-16-2015, 04:18 PM   #3793
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I've been itching to do this year's tournament but it's not time yet is it?

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Incomplete Extra Deck, Blaze. The trademark of the DN Troll. I frankly disregard any player not running 0 / 15 Extra Deck Cards immediately.
I've run fourteen more than once this format because I've been trying to see what I need for that final slot.
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Old 02-16-2015, 04:26 PM   #3794
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The last Tournament started in May so its been 9 months. Honestly its not a bad idea I just want to gauge interest.
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Cards I want to see moved up in the next list:

Book of Moon
Trishula
Librarian

All look like they would help me considerably, although I have to wonder about Extra Deck space. It's a balancing act between THREE SLOTS TOO MANY and not enough, depending on what you configure the Extra for (Rank 5 plays and loops are space intensive; tool-boxing is not).
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Old 02-16-2015, 05:28 PM   #3796
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If I had my way the banlist would look considerably different that it does now.

Buffs before nerfs! XP
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Clearly, they should unban Pot of Greed
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I've considered it actually. Pot of Greed isn't necessarily bad at 1 copy.
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Fluffal player sets one card then laments that I only won because of luck:

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davids168 has gained 1000 life points
Dopple: eff
davids168: vendor
davids168: wow
davids168: lucky
Dopple has lost 3000 life points
Dopple: eff
Dopple: tatsunok
Dopple: accel eff
Dopple: -3 levels
davids168: all just cus you were luck enough to have soul charge
davids168 has gained 1000 life points
davids168: eff
Dopple: read
Dopple: chain
davids168: just luck
davids168 admitted defeat
davids168 has left the duel


In reality, I was far more unlucky as I had to prematurely jettison Soul Charge, and because I didn't open with S/T removal, I was destined to draw it after milling my traps with Tuning. So, I had a very dead field except for Dark Law, with nothing in the way of disruption. Just protection.

The only reason I won? Because he quit. Yeesh.
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I like ice cream.

Every once in a while, the reputation of a "Quasar Deck" can get one free BLUFF-FLAVOURED SCOOPs.

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