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There are two pillars supporting that opinion of mine: Westermarck effect and the pheromone/olfactory impact of HLA. I see a double layer of anti-incest checks at both the biological and psychological level. But this is only for average people, individuals with exceptional drive or understanding can overcome one or both layers. As I was telling BPK a week or two ago, I can force myself to read some incest stories by pretending the characters aren't blood related, convincing myself they're lying or that what I'm reading is a fake story. Of course that makes the experience so antagonistic I tend to stop, but the rejection is so deeply ingrained in my psyche I'd probably stop being myself if I could accept it. Quote:
Ultimately, while fiction could explore all possibilities, I wouldn't believe any particular one because it's derived on an expectation of behaviour and not observed on true behaviour. What I like to believe, because it's amusing to think about, is that real life only child Japanese herb men wish they could have little sisters to do what they see in manga/anime, but because they know it won't happen don't think beyond the shallow implications of such a relationship.
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05-20-2013, 06:36 PM | #5102 |
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The problem with the HLA argument you're falling back on is that it betrays you at the historical national population level. What I mean by this is, historically, we would expect the common people of most nations to be xenophilic as opposed to xenophobic by your line of reasoning. Why? Because a given kingdom's or empire's HLA markers are going to be much, much more homologous than those between one kingdom or empire and one other kingdom or empire. Russians should prefer Zimbabweans over fellow Russians; Czechs should prefer Chinese over fellow Czechs; Brazilians should prefer Arabs over fellow Brazilians. But what we see instead of majority xenophilia minority xenophobia is the reverse: the majority of pretty much all countries display gross xenophobia and a strong desire to breed "with [their] own kind", while it is only the minority who display the whole "foreign = exotic, exotic = desirable, PLEASE BE MY GAIJIN WAIFU" mentality.
In America, you don't quite see this as much. In America, you see a lot of people -- perhaps even the majority? -- who display the "foreign = exotic, exotic = desirable" mentality. But the difference between contemporary America and our historical examples is that America is one enormous melting pot of ethnicities, and most children go through the public school system and thus are exposed to boys and girls of all sorts of skin colors and eye shapes and hair properties. But when you go to a country like modern Japan (still largely homogeneous), you still find rampant xenophobia as the default, with only the occasional eccentric being on the lookout for a gaijin waifu. Why should that be if you're right? Why should that be if you're so correct that we are, at a genetic and at a cell surface marker level, incentivized against inbreeding and are incentivized towards seeking out the people who are most genetically unlike us (while still retaining their humanity and thus their capacity to produce fertile offspring) and breeding with them? The Japanese school system isn't teaching Japanese children "Revere the Emperor! Expel the barbarians!" And it's not teaching them eugenics either. Yet even from a very young age, children tease and resent those who are different while liking those who are the same as them. This is, from a strict "Hybridization is the best genetic strategy " line of reasoning like the one you're taking with HLA alleles, completely counterproductive. Yet it's what happens by default. Your Westermarck example is a scootch better but it only addresses the issue of "nurture incest" (i.e. sexual attraction between two individuals who were raised together from a very young age) and not your stumping point about "nature incest" (i.e. sexual attraction between two individuals who share the same biological parents).
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I never minded the whole incest thing. I mean, the incest in Koi Kaze made me REALLY uncomfortable, but that's more an age thing I think (I need to rewatch that sometime.). I just hope an anime has an incest pairing that's actually well done. Tick Tack! I finally decided to start on this. It's interesting that you can change Nerine's mother. Actually both potential mothers for Nerine are very interesting characters, and Nerine herself is great as always. Alot of this is typical harem stuffs, but as long as I enjoy the characters, it should be fine. My expectations aren't high, but hopefully I'll atleast enjoy reading a little bit. I just hope the potential mothers for Nerine don't fall in love with the main guy. That'd be pretty lame. Finally, it was nice to meet Sia's mother! |
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Agreed. I'm an incest fan, but I never had any desire to watch Koi Kaze because he's this fat neckbeard looking guy sweeting on his sister who's like half his age, ew, just, no. I used to love sibling pairings but not as much anymore (maybe because I once downloaded this zip file that had like 100 incest doujins in it and I got burned out on it). Now cousincest is my fave.
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So after watching this AMV I'm kinda curious about Tegami Bachi (Letter Bee). A quick search tells me Dopple and BBB have seen it. Would you guys recommend it? Seems to have a cool (pardon the pun) atmosphere, and I like the idea of "letters containing people's feelings". Also those stars kinda remind me of Gratitude Crystals from Skyward Sword.
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05-22-2013, 02:02 AM | #5106 |
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It's fantastic. Practically a magical girl show where the main girl cries every episode! Oh, but Lag isn't a girl. Does not matter.
BBB and I liked different seasons more, but they're both excellent. I can't laud praise of TB anymore than I have.
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Yeah, Tegami Bachi is a very nice show. I would certainly recommend it.
Lag crying every episode is kind of annoying, but otherwise it's fine. |
05-22-2013, 05:46 PM | #5108 |
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Annoying, endearing. It's all the same thing.
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Tick Tack!
I finished reading this. Tick Tack was a letdown. I mean, my expectations weren't very high, but I did hope for some decent twists on the Nerine's mother thing. Like I was hoping there'd be a somewhat complicated situation happening. Sadly it was straightforward, "Make Nerine's father get close to the other girl and Nerine changes." The characters are entertaining, and Ai is downright lovely. It's just a shame that everything else is poor. The writing is poor, and 50% of the title is excessively long H scenes. They also really skimp on any details. What happens to Ai and Sage after each route? They don't bother telling you (for alot of them)! Tick Tack! gets a 6 from me. I might reread Shuffle sometime. |
05-24-2013, 06:32 AM | #5110 |
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Dang, I gotta share this.
For some reason I've been reflecting back on Summer 2007 - roughly from June through August of that year. Looking back on my anime history, 2006 was the intro year where I got my face slapped with a lot of killer shows, but 2007 was perhaps the most profound for me. 2008-2009 are kind of lost years I think, with ho-hum seasons and less memorable experiences. I had a vague inclination of the shows I watched back then, but had to read BBB's original suggestions box to confirm what exactly I read/played (I did not know BBB saw Asatte no Houkou as recently as 6 years ago!). I think of that summer as "sci-fi" summer, because it was during a rough time I had in Economics, I was doing weird things like cooking late at night, walking around town and exploring my environment, and watching shows speculating on human advancement in technology and the like. It was a time of optimism for the future, despite troubles of the present. That reflected the anime and VNs I experienced. Stuff included, The King of Braves GaoGaiGar Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann Planetarian Ever17 Mahoromatic Kanon Gunbuster An assortment of sci-fi titles, mysteries, or a combination of both. All excellent titles that I haven't had nearly as much consistent quality in subsequent seasons, although it was an assembly of good titles from across time, not from that season specifically. Mahoromatic is the only outlier of the group, but it's still memorable, just not in the right way. I think, until this season, I haven't had a stacked plate of entertainment since that summer. Sincere gratitude to those who pulled me out of my game universe to return to this reality so I could enjoy it.
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Relistening to .hack//SIGN music. Rewishing that .hack//SIGN had not had such a disappointing final portion. Wondering when we'll get our next shot at a "stuck in an MMORPG" story. Remembering Sword Art Online. Sighing. Laughing at said sighing. Once again wondering when we'll get our next shot at a "stuck in an MMORPG" story.
But speaking of SAO, I was actually thinking of it too, just this last night while relistening to its second ending, "Overfly". Great song. Man did I enjoy Sugu's story arc. The plot of the series may have been pretty retarded at times, but man if I don't love Sugu and her story. I should get back to work on those brackets for SaiWaifu.
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05-24-2013, 06:06 PM | #5112 |
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Kisei Kanojo Sana
Masukawa Karato is an ordinary guy. Kind of. He's got a horny cousin who makes no secret of wanting to incest him and a cool, female transfer student secret admirer. But otherwise he's pretty normal. His Dad isn't, though, he's a famous biology professor and closet mad scientist. His careless father leaves some petri dishes on the dining room table and the cousin, thinking it food, throws the dish into Karato's mouth to hurry him through breakfast. Karato is plagued by dysentery and abdominal pain, and later that night discovers a tapeworm proglottid erupting from his belly-button. The tapeworm proceeds to turn into a girl named Sana, who proclaims she's going to protect her host, Karato, from threats. Yes, you heard me right. Karato's magical girlfriend is a tapeworm that's infesting his own digestive tract. I'm not sure if it's the humidity, the lack of AC or my running shower, but I think my room just got a bit steamier.
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PhotoKano: Halfway through Episode 06, and just taking a break from all the ridiculousness of it to report in on something else first. Will offer thoughts on 06 once I finish it.
First, I prematurely surmised that PhotoKano was going to be another Amagami SS (spoiler boxing because long): Spoiler: show Then, after Episode 04, I wrote "Earlier, I theorized that this series would play out like Amagami SS. Well, I was wrong" and proceeded to explain how Episode 04 had revealed that this series was not likely to follow Amagami SS's pattern at all. (Again, spoiler boxing because long): Spoiler: show Well, Episode 05 comes along ... and completely obliterates my Episode 04 claims and proves that I was right all along about the Amagami SS angle. This series, it keeps loving to trick me! Episode 05 was the first of a two-parter dedicated to the Niimi Haruka route wherein Maeda focuses 100% of his energies on his childhood friend and the school's top idol. It was an okay episode, but Episode 06 so outrageously tops it that I find myself not really having much else to say other than "I was wrong that I was wrong about Amagami SS! " So with that now said, I'll go resume watching Episode 06 and post about it shortly.
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PhotoKano: So, I finished Episode 06 off yesterday. Where do I even begin ...
Spoiler: show I'm really rather surprised that the writers decided to tackle Niimi Haruka's route first though. From what I understand, Haruka is the main character of the video game and she also seems to be the "primary catch" of the scenario in general. It's kind of ... odd, to me, that they'd lead off with Haruka rather than finishing off with her with a bang. Since I know that Episode 07 deals with the one girl in the other photography club, and since I know that Episode 08 deals with the student council president, and since I've further heard that Episode 09 is going to be dealing with Maeda's other childhood friend (the athletic girl), this leaves us with only three remaining girls to finish the series off with: the gymnastics loli, the busty girl who loves to cook, and the quiet girl who envies / admires / yearns for (? ) Haruka. Any of these three feels to me like an odd choice of girl to devote the final story arc to, as usually the final arc is reserved for the True Path girl. (Although I love Rina, the cooking girl, so I'm okay if she ends up being the Ultimate Waifu as set up by this show's writers. )
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PhotoKano:
Episode 08 dealt with Murato-senpai, the student council president. One of my least favorite of the bunch, Murato was a nice enough girl but hers was a pretty awkward arc. I can't help but to feel that it would've been much better in the original video game, where I imagine the player spent 5-10 hours to get through it, versus the twenty-minute treatment it got here. Spoiler: show
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Nope nope, I still plan on watching this as far as I go, although it's right there with CROSS CHANNEL as really boring watch. I mean, I could go for romance, but there's so many little nuances that turn me off, and no central magnet to draw me in.
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It's a hell of a weak romance series. But meh, I started it and feel like finishing it, so.
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Student council president is my least favorite girl out of the bunch. I don't even want to watch her episode :p
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05-27-2013, 01:36 AM | #5123 |
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You have to watch hers before you'll be allowed to watch the athlete's. (Seriously, why the hell aren't they ending with either Haruka or her? The two likeliest love interests for Maeda!)
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05-28-2013, 12:08 AM | #5124 |
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Gonna start Garantia soon. But for now
Date-A-Live! This is probably the funniest show of the season after Maou-sama, but for entirely different reasons. BBB called it stupid and dropped it half-way through the first episode. I went twice that length and concluded it's not really stupid...it's clinically retarded. But because it's so blatantly vacuous, I got some legitimate laughs out of it. Like, I've found Nyaruko and Hentai-Ouji cute/moe at times, but never laugh out loud funny. That happened here. The inappropriate dramatic moments were pretty knee-kicking too in a One Punch Man style of straight-faced gag. I think I'll follow DAL for a few more episodes. I'm curious where it'll go, since a pregnancy PSP VN is already on its way to anime store shelves.
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So I watched all 12 episodes of "Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai!!" in 2 days. The main character reminded me of a humorous Lelouch. More pervertedness, and more athleticism (although relative to the other characters in the show, still weak).
Harem type thing, could've used more episodes as development. Sometimes split an episode into 2 different stories. Was fun enough to watch, kept me entertained. 6.5/10. |
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