Can we talk about Scarlet/Violet yet?!

[Doppleganger]

I missed the annoucenement cause of a little thing called WOKE.

I mean WORK.

Scalefetishists must be on the moon by now.

[Doppleganger]

Wow Spain has so many beautiful women.

That's how you know this is a fantasy game!

[ChampofPokemon]

Scarlet/Violet look great.

[Doppleganger]

No hype whatsoever huh. I'm the last person to find out about stuff.

I think the new trailer is more bad than good, but it's not all bad. Miraidon/Koraidon are abominations. I like the region and the open-world approach to the game, although that hardly makes it memorable.

So this is the Rotom Phone era huh. I think we can clearly point fingers than the zoomer pandering in the form of a fake smartphone was where Pokemon went on its decline.

Terastallize would be cool if it just a Protean clone that allowed any Pokemon to change type. It being limited to certain mons makes GF look incompetent again.

Not a fan of the designs at all.

[phoopes]

I'm kind of hype. More hype than I was for Sword and Shield anyway.

I think the new trailer is more good than bad. Agreed on the legendaries being bad though

You sound like the "old man yells at cloud" meme when you say that Rotom Phone was the decline lol

According to the official website, any Pokemon can use the Terastallize mechanic

I like some of the new designs

[Ironthunder]

yeah Terastallize is any mon and (nominally) any type. Non-STAB types appear to be locked behind raids, and it's fixed on a per-mon basis.

[Doppleganger]

That's what I don't understand. It's either all types or it's one type. Like the big thing I saw was Chlorophyll Venusaur being a Fire-type, Charizard being a Dragon-type and Blastoise being a Grass-type. So those are the only Terastallize options for those starters?

An equivalent to Gmax (special forms for special mons) is pretty much a given, but the mechanic is lame if specific mons are whitelisted to only get one change of type.

Originally Posted by phoopes

You sound like the "old man yells at cloud" meme when you say that Rotom Phone was the decline lol

I think the phone is a massive step back from the Rotom Pokedex. The Pokedex itself was a Pokemon-specific technology and the dex was both an analog for AI and a logical step forward for how you upgrade the dex, turning it into an actual character.

Featuring a smartphone with apps is the kind of thing I'd expect out of low-brow kid comedy like Wreck-It Ralph 2: Ralph Breaks the Internet or The Secret Life of Pets 3 or something.

It isn't very creative and, while not the biggest sin, is pretty emblematic of an era of less impressive or imaginative Pokemon games.

[Ironthunder]

Originally Posted by Doppleganger

That's what I don't understand. It's either all types or it's one type. Like the big thing I saw was Chlorophyll Venusaur being a Fire-type, Charizard being a Dragon-type and Blastoise being a Grass-type. So those are the only Terastallize options for those starters?

An equivalent to Gmax (special forms for special mons) is pretty much a given, but the mechanic is lame if specific mons are whitelisted to only get one change of type.

You can have any mon terastallize to any type, but each specific mon has a set type they will terastallize to. Think of it more like Hidden Power.

[Doppleganger]

Originally Posted by Ironthunder

You can have any mon terastallize to any type, but each specific mon has a set type they will terastallize to. Think of it more like Hidden Power.

Hidden Power was based off IVs, so you're saying terastallize type is based off a hidden value with the Pokemon that one has to breed or catch.

That's pretty cool, actually. And truthfully it sounds like Hidden Power got removed then reintroduced as a gimmick.

[Ironthunder]

Originally Posted by Doppleganger

Hidden Power was based off IVs, so you're saying terastallize type is based off a hidden value with the Pokemon that one has to breed or catch.

That's pretty cool, actually. And truthfully it sounds like Hidden Power got removed then reintroduced as a gimmick.

Basically. We have no idea what it's tied to or if it's even tied to anything beyond just being an assigned random per-mon value, but it's basically Hidden Power all over again. Only this time, with non-STAB options locked behind raids (though I presume breeds will still work to a degree).

Also I do reckon they'll re-introduce Hidden Power and have it tie in to Terastal by always being your Tera-type, so you'll always have an option for Tera-STAB.