08-28-2013, 10:19 PM | #52 |
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One large touchscreen =/= two smaller screens of which only one is a touchscreen. C'mon, guys.
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08-28-2013, 10:25 PM | #53 |
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The top screen is a touch screen? Where was that stated in the commercial?
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...I was addressing it to MG directly (suppose I should have quoted him). It was actually in agreement with your Ars comment. My point was that the 2DS is a 3DS. Where MG said "No, you can't have a large touch screen because it would make 2DS games incompatible with other 3DS/XL systems", I say "No, that's incorrect, because it is a 3DS, therefore having one large touch screen wouldn't alter the gameplay if the game was played in a normal 3DS as opposed to the concept of the 2DS Ars is showing us." |
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The 2DS has apparently been confirmed to be one screen separated by a plastic overlay, so it's true - why not just make it one giant screen, like a tablet? That's what we're discussing. |
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08-28-2013, 11:38 PM | #56 |
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That would kind of suck. I understand having a whole touch screen would be neat, but Nintendo would start making games that would only work with the new screen, and I would hate for my 3DS to go obsolete so quickly.
I haven't played a regular 3DS, but I like my XL. I haven't really noticed any bad pixelation on any of the games, but of course I have never been big on graphics. For regular DS games, it just reduces the screen resolution to a regular screen size. I can't really give any opinions on the 2DS. It looks really weird to me, but that's because I'm not used to it, and I've never been crazy about tablets. I mean, yeah it's cheaper, but if you're buying a new thing for gaming, you're going to spend big bucks even with the cheaper item, so a $40 price difference is not that much when you'd be forking out $300+ with the system and games. Of course, I'll always be partial to the product I'm used to. I don't regret buying my XL in the least, if that means anything to anyone. |
08-29-2013, 01:25 AM | #57 |
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This looks like garbage. Sorry Talon. The fact that it doesn't close makes it pretty useless.
"BUT KUNO, THE ORIGINAL GAMEBOY AND SUCH DIDN'T CLOSE" Yes but they all fit in our pockets. This this is an abomination upon man. If this closed or was smaller it would have been the greatest thing ever. |
08-29-2013, 06:40 AM | #58 |
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Wouldn't a 2DS game, in a sense, be a DS game then? It's not taking advantage of 3D technology.
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08-29-2013, 07:24 AM | #59 |
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They were talking about if it was the tablet thing.
That said, in response to your question, no. DS and 3DS cartridges are different, and may even vary in how they're programmed. |
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If a 3DS were simply a DS with 3-D technology, then sure. But it isn't. The 3DS is like a portable GameCube or Wii; the DS is like a portable N64. So the 2DS will likewise be akin to a portable GameCube or Wii, just without any 3-D special effects. It's not like losing 3-D means it also loses an entire generation's worth of computing power.
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08-29-2013, 08:28 AM | #61 |
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I already feel bad for all the Best Buy/Gamestop/whatever employees that have to answer this question 30 times a day.
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The DS & 3DS are right on the upper end of what I'd consider actually portable. If Nintendo handhelds get any bigger I will cease to buy them because, honestly, if I'm only going to play a console at home I have my Xbox. Given the tablet would've ended up pretty much replacing the 3DS, that'd have been it for me.
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I just read that the 2DS is not going to be sold in the Japanese market. The tidbit came up in a discussion over whether or not the 2DS has killed 3DS fans' chances for any future games which will integrate 3-D into the game's fabric, i.e. which will require you to turn the 3-D on and use it if you want to play the game successfully. Some 3DS owners were concerned that the 2DS would indeed mean the end of developers developing such games. And a few Western developers were starting to weigh in with their own bottom-line thoughts as well, saying that, sure enough, news about the 2DS was making them reconsider wasting any time on developing games with gameplay which would center around something only achievable with 3-D turned on. But if it's true that the 2DS won't be sold in Japan, then I don't think 3DS owners have anything to worry about -- at least not as far as first-party titles are concerned.
In fact, I feel like it's the opposite now: it's the early fans of the 2DS who have got something to worry about. 2DS fans will now have to worry that a future game may come from Nintendo -- a Metroid, a Star Fox, a Zelda, something -- which tries to court 3DS lovers by heavily pushing the 3-D feature of the 3DS. Or even if it's not a first-party title that does it (given Nintendo's many assurances that they'd never require 3-D in any of their published games), I wonder if some popular third-party or second-party title won't do it. Some Resident Evil or some Mega Man or some Sonic the Hedgehog, something, where if you don't have 3-D turned on then you're going to miss jumps a lot because you'll misjudge the distance, or something. Anyway, I'm not sure if this rumor is true or not. So take it with a grain of salt for now. But it's also something to pay attention to in the coming months. If Japan doesn't have the 2DS right now but they then demand it (and get it) by Christmas, that's probably a very bad sign for 3DS fanboys who want more games to make use of 3-D.
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08-31-2013, 12:40 PM | #65 |
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I don't think that developers would stop doing 3D games until at least the 2DS starts outselling the 3DS by a decent margin. Even if developers don't feel it might be worthwhile, I'm sure Nintendo will push for it.
And I can't really imagine that many 3D games which would be hindered by 2D since it's not a hologram or something. The screens for the 3D and 2D still show the same visual data, just without the brain and eye straining effect. |
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Apparently the 3D function really helps/is almost necessary for some platformers because it helps with depth perception. Besides that it sucks.
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09-19-2013, 07:34 PM | #67 |
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I went to Best Buy the other day hopeful to see a 2DS demo unit. No such luck. Asked a sales rep what he knew. He shared that, when it comes to Nintendo's demo kiosks, those decisions are made by Nintendo of America themselves out in Redmond and that Best Buy doesn't really have any say nor clue regarding things like how many demo units to have on display, when the first (if any) demo units will show up, whether to have 2DSes on display side-by-side with 3DSes and 3DS XLs to enable consumers to make the best decision they can before dropping $100+ on a device, etc. Not surprising, of course, but disappointing. Was definitely hoping to be able to see the 3DS XL and the 2DS side by side so that I could tell which one's screen looked better to my eyes.
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I cannot imagine Nintendo allowing any retail store access to even demo units prior to release. At best, a Nintendo store might, but not this far in advance.
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09-19-2013, 08:43 PM | #69 |
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What? The the 3DS XL and the Nintendo Wii all had demo units popping up at various stores a week to two weeks prior to release.
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09-22-2013, 09:13 PM | #71 |
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Went to Amazon.com to see if they had any 2DS deals.
Haha, no, silly. I want to see the 2DS! [/Homer Simpson] ... noooooo, when I said "2ds minus 3ds", that wasn't your cue to give me the other "DS with a number" you think I meant. Now let's specify that the category we want it to search in is Video Games and try again ... Let's take away the "-3ds" bit. -_-; Let's put the "2ds" in quotes! -__-; -_____-; Nintendo isn't making it very easy for Amazon, and Amazon isn't making it very easy for Nintendo.
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Yeah Amazon has been making it rough for Nintendo for quite a while now. Those jerks.
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Bundles, dude.
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09-27-2013, 04:37 PM | #75 |
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If there hadn't been any 3DS for $130 late last year I likely woulda ended up snagging a 2DS this year since its the same price. It looks like a cute lil system an I never use 3d anyway. The lack of extra speaker & closing stinks though. Its good ta see 'em noticing price most definetely is an issue this year in both hardware and game pricing now semi-reliably returning to the $30~$35 range as opposed to the $40 base.
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