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Old 05-17-2018, 12:52 AM   #4701
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Does Swift Swim double final speed (+EVs), base speed, or speed after stage boosts? Also, is there any format I can play that allows an uber that isn't Ubers itself?
It doubles speed after stage boosts. So say the Pokemon in question has 300 Speed. If it uses Agility, it's a x2 multiplier, so it has 600 speed. Swift Swim is another x2 multiplier so it'd be at 1200 speed.

As for formats, there's plenty of other metagames and custom formats and whatnot. I don't know off the top of my head but there's probably something close to what you're looking for if you look hard enough.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:56 AM   #4702
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Thanks for that!

HERE IS MY FIRST EVER POKEMON BATTLE! Which I lost due to d/c.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ubers-748609221

Xerneas spooked me. I currently don't have a plan for beating it. I need to think of something.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:40 AM   #4703
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...Why not play an OU team with Pelipper if the only Uber you're going to use is Kyogre
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:37 AM   #4704
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Xerneas spooked me. I currently don't have a plan for beating it. I need to think of something.
Aegislash. Solgaleo / Dusk Mane Necrozma. Sand Rush Excadrill in the sand. To a lesser extent Heatran, Primal Groudon, and other things that wall Moonblast and Thunder but not Focus Blast and/or fail to KO Xerneas in one hit.

Whatever do you mean, though, by "MY FIRST EVER POKEMON BATTLE"? Surely you must mean this is your first-ever Ubers battle, no?
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:09 PM   #4705
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I had never battled another player before that game.

What happened with Keldeo was pure luck. I wasn't even sure if Fighting resisted Dark but thought it did, and then had no idea about Justified or if Keldeo could outspeed Xerneas. Turns out it could have, even after Geomancy, but Keldeo wouldn't have enough to take him out. I still don't have an explanation for why Darkrai died after using Dark Pulse.

Similarly, Tapu Koko versus Xerneas was also luck. I was surprised by Thunder off Xerneas (I thought it only ran Moonblast) and only dropped Koko for the boosted, perfectly accurate thunder. It didn't hit me until before I went to bed that Koko either resists or is neutral to both Moonblast and Thunder which had to be Xerneas' only two attacking moves.

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...Why not play an OU team with Pelipper if the only Uber you're going to use is Kyogre
I like Kyogre, and want to battle Ubers. I don't like OU's meta and the only way I'd play it is if I got to use Kyogre. Eventually, I want this team to be fully mono-water, but Kyogre is banned from monotype anyway.

A more technical reason was Damp Rock is banned from OU so even with Pelipper that battle the rain was ending way too quickly.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:44 PM   #4706
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Before I get going, this is the second battle ever, an accident while I was trying to play ubers but didn't validate the team:

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/g...ttle-748869334

I have very little idea what I'm doing so it's rather refreshing that the power level of the opponents has scaled down to where I am. Compare against Dueling Network and Tenhou, where when I started (2011/2008 ) the quality of players was much lower but now even basic randoms are super powerful, so if you're not prepared you can get btfo of your first game.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:47 AM   #4707
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I've played about 12 games, I think I'm getting better.

I was taken aback at Oblivion Wing, it must be super effective against Fighting types? That also explains why Focus Blast didn't do super effective damage to Yveltal. But that Volt Switch did a huge amount and I wasn't even trying.

I was dancing around Kyurem-W because I didn't know what it was weak to. I don't think I have a move super effective move against it.
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Old 05-18-2018, 03:19 AM   #4708
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Yveltal is Dark/Flying and Oblivion Wing is Flying, yes. Kyurem's still Ice/Dragon regardless of form, so Fighting/Dragon/Rock/Steel/Fairy.

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Old 05-19-2018, 02:22 AM   #4709
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It's hard to Google when I'm on a timer! Like what I put this guy on. I'm pretty sure Kyogre would have been KO'd by the Stealth Rock, so I dunno why he was delaying like that.
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Old 05-19-2018, 11:31 AM   #4710
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In the future you can do "/data x" and it'll come up with whatever you're looking for

So "/data Yveltal" would give you its typing, base stats, potential abilities, etc.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:31 PM   #4711
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OK, three days in, here is my team:

Kyogre
Mega Swampert
Ash-Greninja
Wash Rotom
Pelipper
???

Two fast rain sweepers, two rain setting tanks, and a really good pivot. The team is really fun but horribly inconsistent due to Hydro Pump's poor accuracy. Scald just doesn't have enough accuracy to really justify using it on anymon not named Kyogre,

Perhaps surprisingly, this team is not total trash against Primal Groudon. I actually have a very favourable matchup because a lot of people expect Groudon to stomp and are forced to switch.

What I have had consistent trouble with are the deers:

Extreme Killer Arceus
Geomancy Xerneas
Arceus-Water

And the dragons:

Palkia
Giratina
Dialga

Sinnoh just eats me up even though those are supposed to be one of the lesser generations for legendaries.

Anyone have any secret sauce on how to undo the ungulates?
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Primal Groudon or Dusk Mane Necrozma.

Marshadow is a good offensive answer to E-Killer Arceus.
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:04 PM   #4713
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I can't use either because this is mono water.
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Old 05-20-2018, 02:28 PM   #4714
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This was the highest rated opponent I faced but I had a good matchup. I was able to employ some prediction which I didn't do in earlier games. I was able to tell he had a Choice Scarf Yveltal and that was the benefit of leading with Pelipper.
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That was close!

I've been seeing a lot of Arceus-Fairy recently, and yet never on my team >>
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