05-04-2013, 09:24 AM | #276 |
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This is getting to be ridiculous. -_-; While I'm waiting to hear back from phoopes before pressing on with my OU experiment in Pokémon Showdown, I'm back to playing Random Battles. And I can't even begin to list off the number of mid-battle forfeits I've had this morning. I want to honestly say, not fucking exaggerating, that it's been somewhere in the neighborhood of 35% to 45% of all battles I've been in this morning.
Originally I decided against saying anything ("beating a dead horse" and whatnot), but what prompted me to post right now was this. There was this one battle I was in two battles ago where the guy forfeited on Turn 10. To me, it was clearly a case of yet another PS crybaby, but I decided the evidence unimpressive enough to not be worth sharing the link. "Besides," I said, "they're probably tired of hearing me harp on this point." THE NEXT FUCKING BATTLE, I shit you not, I GET SOME BOZO WHO FORFEITS ON TURN 2. Turn fucking 2. -_-; You can watch it for yourself here. Turn 1? His Ditto U-Turns away. I give him benefit of the doubt that he recognizes this Jumpluff probably has Flying Gem and will be using Acrobatics ... but I still want to use Acrobatics anyway, come what may. Anyway, he switches in a Ground/Dark CAP Pokémon. Good call, I guess? Except no, not really? U-Turn? ^^; So he calls it back immediately, perhaps realizing his own error ... only to send out ... Bellossum? Who is weak to both U-Turn and Acrobatics? I U-Turn ... and before I can even see my screen for who to send out, he jets. What the hell. And no, he doesn't just disconnect: he purposely leaves the room, rendering an auto-victory for me, zero-second delay. Just ... UGH! -_-; TWO FORFEITS IN A ROW! AND ONE AS EARLY AS TURN 2! WHAT IS WITH YOU PEOPLE!?
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05-04-2013, 10:38 AM | #277 |
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Random battles is where most the dumbasses live unfortunately. Most of the actual tiers are much better.
Playing Smogon randbats is like playing PO Ubers. 3/4 of the people are complete idiots.
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05-04-2013, 01:35 PM | #278 |
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So, you actually tempted me to make an NU team. So I threw one quickly together, and ... *sigh* ... my opponent doesn't know how to Pokemans.
Then you PMed me on PS, so you and I fought and ... here is the replay of that battle. Spoiler: show After battling with Blaze, I decided to try my luck at a third battle. Here is that battle. It ... did not go over well. Spoiler: show So I needed a pick-me-up after that brutal beating. On to Game #4! Aaaaaaand ... my first 0-6 wipeout in perhaps years. Daaaayum. Spoiler: show So now I really needed a pick-me-up battle. And luckily enough, I got it in my fifth ever NU battle. Sadly? This 5-0 sweep turned out to be me accidentally bullying some little kid named Sean whose ranking is in the 900s. ¬_¬; So yeah. NU's been a bit of a bitch. It'll definitely take time to adjust to this playing field should I prolong my stay here. Kinda doubtful, but we'll see. Question for Blaze though: why is Jynx NU legal if PS is Smogon's battle simulator and if Smogon says Jynx is RU?
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05-04-2013, 03:49 PM | #279 |
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Well Talon I don't really know what to tell you, I guess that's my mistake. I'm usually policing the chat when I'm on PS so I don't battle nearly as much as I used to. Guess the number of quitters has risen substantially since we've gotten a flood of newer players.
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If all of my favorites were allowed in UU, then I would quit bitching about OU having morphed into Übers Junior and I would simply relocate to UU and call it home sweet home. But the simple fact of the matter is that Starmie is still OU (and I'm happy for him that he is -- one of only two Pokémon to remain OU five generations in a row! ) so he's not allowed to play in UU. And Staraptor is BL so he's not allowed to play either. Even if he struggles a bit in OU, Mamoswine still calls OU his home, far too powerful to be allowed to play in UU. That's 50% of my team right there, Kind. In fact, only two of my team members are currently UU legal (Togekiss and Galvantula), so I'm kinda fucked-trapped. If I stay put in OU, I hate the format because {REASONS}. If I leave OU, I hate my new home because WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY FAVORITES?
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05-04-2013, 07:13 PM | #282 |
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Talon if you do move to UU be warned it's pretty much like an OU junior. I haven't played the tier on a consistent basis in a few months but it was sort of like that when I played and it's even more so from what I've heard nowadays.
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05-04-2013, 07:53 PM | #283 | |
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NU Battles:
Wherein I outsmart a Choice Scarf Primeape. This was a good battle imo. If you enjoy watching people's battles, I think you'll enjoy this one. Lots of twists and turns, but very competent play throughout. Do I win? Do I lose? You'll just have to click to find out. But you do know at least thing: I outsmart a Choice Scarf Primeape. (Or at least I assume he was Choice Scarfed. Fast little bugger ...) Wherein divine intervention wrests victory from my grasp. This too was a good battle, and by the end of it I was 4-2 winning, but then the server crashed. Thankfully I was awarded the win because right when the server crashed my opponent was supposed to choose someone new to send out, so the server blamed him for taking too long instead of me. Thank goodness. -.-; Random Battle Battles: Yet another forfeit. ^^; This was my first battle after taking a half-day break, and whaddya know, it's a forfeit. AND ANOTHER ONE! -_-; TWO IN A ROW! MY FIRST TWO BATTLES SINCE TAKING A BREAK! AND BOTH END LIKE THIS! Ugh. Wherein Houndoom vs. Silcoon proves to be a wretchedly unfair lead mismatch. No need to watch this one unless you want to see a cruel 5-0 sweep by yours truly. Nothing to brag about here: Nasty Plot and Milk Drink did 99% of the work. Wherein Talon says the darnedest things. This was a pretty difficult battle and I would recommend checking it out in full if you like difficult battles. But I recommend everyone at least load this battle up and skip to Turn 28 or so (not the very end, which is Turn 30; you want context) to check out the highlight of this match: Spoiler: show Quote:
BTW, phoopes. Did you hear back from your bosses yet? Are they: a) investigating this and want me to still sit tight so I don't fuck with my OU history of 1 W 0 L 0 T? b) investigating this but don't need me to sit tight? I can go ahead and play in OU again? c) not investigating this, and thus I don't need to sit tight? I assume it's Letter C, but in the event it's Letter A I've been sitting tight and haven't touched OU since last night.
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05-04-2013, 08:34 PM | #284 |
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Oh yeah I forgot to tell you everything's normal with your ranking. I have no clue how the Glicko2 thing works at all either but one of the mods who does a lot of programming said it was normal so no worries there!
And yes "Son of OU" is more what I was going for, exactly.
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05-04-2013, 10:25 PM | #285 |
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Wherein FUCK JOLTEON! and FUCK YEAH Steelix and Umbreon are bros!
Wherein Mewtwo sucks and Bastiodon is king. Wherein what was I thinking on Turn 30?
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05-05-2013, 09:42 AM | #286 |
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So, I just played two matches of PS OU, my first since I quit because of the perceived glitch. I really wish I had saved the first of these, but unfortunately I didn't, pissed off at how it ended. It was a pretty decent fight but the odds were definitely stacked against my lackluster OU team: the other guy had Choice Scarf Terrakion, Choice Scarf Jirachi, and a slew of other threats. It ended up being an 0-1 defeat by the narrowest of margins -- one more hit was all I needed to make it 1-0 instead of 0-1 -- and considering my opponent's OU score was in the 1700s, it was all the better performance on my part. But like I said, I was pretty upset at losing to Scarf Jirachi (Iron Head hax, fucking A), so I quit on ragey instinct, regretting it moments later but far too late. Oh well. Just take my word for it: I lost, but it was a good fight. ^^;
Here's the second one. It wasn't as good of a fight, but it too ends with only one Pokémon left standing. Spoiler: show As much as I wub Galvantula, and as much as he does pull his weight (like in the battle I just linked, for example!), I'm considering swapping him out for a Steel type. I may -- may -- even violate my long-held rule about "NO LEGENDARIES! " and run Jirachi. A, 'cause it's adorable. B, 'cause it's pretty damn good. C, 'cause it's an excellent anti-Terrakion, and Staraptor, Mamoswine, and Togekiss would really appreciate that. Hell, so would even Starmie. (Fucking Choice Scarf Terrakion. -_-; ) But I dunno, we'll see. I might leave Galvantula in and drop Hydreigon (*LE GASP!* :o [ ]) instead. Actually ... I could go with Metagross. :o I've always liked Metagross, and unlike Jirachi, he's not a legendary. Hmmmmmm ... yeah ... Metagross could be good. Hmm ......... we will see.
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05-05-2013, 10:19 AM | #287 |
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If you are worried about HP Fire then are you running Thick Fat? Thick Fat is actually really good for Mamoswine.
And nice job Talon in that last battle! I was seriously scared that Dragonite was CBed. If it was, you could have kissed your win goodbye. Galvantula is OHKOd after Stealth Rock, and I'm not sure about how much health Starmie had but ESpeed does a max of like 75%. It's terrifying. A Scarf Jolteon though? What!? I think your Hydreigon is scarfed, so that it why I'm saying that. Also no Metagross. Metagross is in all reality a bad Pokemon who is simply overshadowed by the other Steel types in OU. Jirachi is a much better call(especially since ScarfJirachi is pretty rare now, Specially Defensive Rachi is the most common set nowadays). Keep in mind though that Scarf Terrakion outspeeds Scarf Jirachi, and Jirachi HATES switching in on CC. Especially from the rarer Banded versions. Might I suggest a different check? (Yes, there are only checks to Terrakion, but this one comes close to a counter). Since your team is weak to CS Terrakion, maybe replacing Galvantula or Hydreigon with Landorus-T it a safe bet. Intimidate plus a resistance to CC is a god-send for your team, and he can hit back hard with Earthquake. A set of Landorus-T @ Leftovers 200 HP/ 64 ATK/ 244 DEF Adamant Nature -Earthquake -U-Turn -Stone Edge -Gravity(or Stealth Rock is you a paranoid of spinners) Hydreigon is also a solid teammate, though a shared Ice weakness can be an issue. Just saw this on the analysis. ^^; I've used Landorus-T before and can attest that it is the closest thing to a counter this side of the Mississippi. And please, PLEASE DON'T USE GLISCOR!!!
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05-05-2013, 11:23 AM | #288 |
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So I am tempted to get back into this. I suppose we're now using Pokemon Showdown or something, which presumably I can google. Are all the pokemon and tiers still on Smogon like before? And most important, is HO[Hyper-Offense] still a viable strategy?
Edit: Also, is the horrible mechanic of seeing your opponent's team before the match still there?
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HO get a huge hit with the loss of Deoxys-D, but it is still viable, yes. You have some really nice scarfers now too. Team Preview is still around.
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05-05-2013, 05:43 PM | #290 |
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*Le sigh*
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05-05-2013, 05:59 PM | #291 |
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Wherein I have to admit that I enjoyed playing with Azelf.
Regarding Mamoswine's ability: yes, it's Thick Fat. No, I'm not worried about HP Fire for him. O_o I'm worried about Drain Punch, Close Combat, Hydro Pump, Scald, Surf, etc. In general, sure, I'd be worried about Fire for him or anybody else, but my team currently isn't that Fire-weak. Galvantula's the only one (now that Mamoswine can have DW abilities in all formats and not just DW OU, which has been the case for some time now). Regarding Hydreigon's item and Jolteon's speed: Hydreigon's not Scarfed. But I suspected Jolteon was not because of its speed (uh, no, everyone knows Jolteon's mad fast ) but because his move usage suggested choice lockage. Maybe I missed a part where he switched between moves. I was in the heat of battle and had my mind on many factors at once, so I could've missed that. Feel free to point out if he did. But IIRC (not going back to check right now), he would always use a move and then either a) run away immediately or else b) repeat that move and then run away. It made it seem like he couldn't stay out, which to me suggests choice lockage. Choice Scarf Jolteon isn't surprising as coupled with Jolteon's naturally high speed stat it makes him much faster than threats who have Dragon Danced once or maybe even twice. Regarding Metagross: Yeah, but you'd tell me not to use Galvantula either. So between Galvantula the RU arachnid and Metagross the OU steel arachnoid, I think you'd rather I use Metagross anyway. hahahaha You have to keep in mind: I really don't fancy the cheatey "just one wegendawy pwetty pwease? " rule that half the fanbase pleaded for in 1999 and won NoA over with. I've always been on the "No Legendaries. Legendaries are cheap " side of the fence, and it'd feel ... I dunno, very wrong to use a Jirachi. It'd be like a Christian becoming an atheist or vice versa. hahahahaha [/overblown analogies?] But we'll see. Jirachi is adorable. Regarding Landorus: Are you insane? ^_^; Staraptor, weak to Ice. Togekiss, weak to Ice. Hydreigon, weak to Ice. Mamoswine, weak to Ice were it not for Thick Fat. That's three (and until recently four) of my six Pokémon with an Ice weakness. There's no way I'm adding Captain 4-X to the team with his 4x weakness to Ice. ^^; That stated, sure, I'll look into it. The team might like every other aspect to Landorus minus his Ice weakness. We'll see. Though if I'm going to be cheating and using a legendary anyway, it's going to come down to Jirachi vs. Landorus and I'm pretty certain that Jirachi is going to win. Regarding Gliscor: You have nothing to worry about: because I dislike Gliscor. ^_^; (BLASPHEMY!, I know. ) Not because he's amazing or anything. (On the contrary, my team pretty much always easily dispatches with Gliscor. ^^;; Four of my dudes have muchos experience OHKOing the sucker.) I just don't like his design. Takes a design I already didn't care for and makes it even worse. (Sorry, Gliscor fans! ^^; )
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05-05-2013, 06:12 PM | #292 |
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Mamoswine has a neutral resistance to Ice, which becomes a full resistance with Thick Fat.
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05-05-2013, 06:29 PM | #293 |
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Regarding Jolteon: Specs Jolteon isn't too uncommon. Could've been the case there.
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05-05-2013, 08:07 PM | #294 |
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Thanks for the correction. I thought Ice was neutral to Ice, not resistant to Ice. Still though. Not sure I want four Ice weaknesses on the team when currently I've already got three. ^^;
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05-05-2013, 09:09 PM | #296 |
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As one might say in the ASB, "Ice in being a shitty defensive type shocker".
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05-05-2013, 10:08 PM | #297 |
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So, I have also been playing NU recently. It seems to be a popular tier around UPN.
Anyway, I just had this match, which went pretty much like any other match. The real thing is round 20, the guy goes on this big rant about Hax and stuff. Commentary in spoiler below. Spoiler: show Not my best match, especially towards the end, but I though it was worth sharing.
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05-06-2013, 01:03 AM | #298 |
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Hey look, I did a match!
As Blaze is probably aware, this team has seen quite the switching up from it's first iteration (I ran an Alomomoa at some point @__@). Turns out what I really needed was a way to deal with that goshdarmned Snorlax, who has been the bane of my team many a time (Does every UU team run him, or something?!?!). EDIT: And Another. I made some odd calls in this one, but there were some fun mindgames. EDIT 2: How slow can you go? (In which I have -6 speed, am paralyzed, and am holding an Iron Ball, yet still sweep.)
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05-06-2013, 03:35 AM | #299 |
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Look at this battle.
http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/replay/uu-17413113 Do you think hax? Think again. I run Super Luck. Yes, I know, still a little lucky, but. Also, me vs Kind.
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Wherein Mamoswine uses Superpower four times in a row.
Spoiler: show Wherein Kurt Vonnegut pens the sequel, Slaughterhouse Six. Spoiler: show
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