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As for Bonnie's role with squishy, I think that's amazing. Bonnie is basically a co-lead female with Serena, not just a support character so she gets the plot/story eps while Serena gets the shipping eps or idol eps with Ash. One good thing you can say about XY is nobody on the main cast is ignored. Given how poorly Brock was handled in the anime especially in DP, Misty being neglected to a Togepi holder in Johto, and Max not doing much in AG, this is the first time all of Ash's companions actually get things to do and aren't ignored. Even Clemont is mostly on par with Kanto-era Brock in terms of screentime. On the other hand since the writers focused on Serena/Bonnie/Clemont evenly, there's no "lead character" like May and Dawn were treated in their sagas. Since May and Dawn got to be co-leads, and the writers could get away with neglecting Brock and Max, they were able to get more than Serena does currently. So it is a trade off. Do you prefer seeing ALL of Ash's companions get screentime, or just the female lead? Obviously now in XY its better to see them all get focus since they're all new characters, whereas in AG and DP Brock was already just an old tired dead weight character so the writers could get away with treating him like the bland exposition guy and nothing else. |
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Through Episode 24 of XY&Z. It's the episode where (spoiler lite) Team Rocket steals food from a forest shrine.
I continue to enjoy the series okay but beneath the level of enjoyment I had several years ago when the XY series was fresh and brimming with potential. Now we're coming to a close and XY's been solidified as yet another Pokémon season with many of the same trappings and disappointments. To be expected, some will say, but I don't think so if you take a look back at Episodes 1-40. It's hard to pinpoint where the series "went wrong," if ever it did indeed go wrong, but early on the series was doing a number of bold things, from giving Ash a companion who canonically crushes on him to that unforgettable berserk Mega Lucario biting Pikachu's tail and swinging him around like a rag doll. XY&Z has felt much more ... "safe." Less bold. Less exciting. Much more familiar to viewers of previous seasons. While the majority of the upcoming episodes seem like they're meant to be heavy hitters, the episode I just finished was yet another filler. And it's curious, that, because we're so close to the end now -- only 25 weeks until November 18, only 24 more episodes max before the Kalos anime draws to a close. Now hardly seems the time to be writing filler episodes. It bodes poorly for Ash's prospects at the Kalos League. XY&Z Episode 024: Spoiler: show
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The background music is a LOT less dramatic too and much more fluffy. What first drew me into the show (and Jaxel himself) was some of the drama found in episode 1, or the likes in Pikachu's Goodbye or Bye Bye Butterfree. Maybe it's because it holds a place in my heart, the fact that it has been there for me on down days in the last few years, or the GOOD qualities about XY/XYZ that I enjoy, but with the negative out of the way... 2. I enjoy the story line. I think we all knew the writers would not do much more than tease about Serena's crush, but it's nice that it is cannon. In addition, although I feel they waited way too long to give her a goal (in response to complaints by fans?) I have enjoyed Serena as a character in herself as opposed to Ash's girlfriend. I like Citron's bromance with Ash too. Ash never had such a thing. Brock was an older brother/mentor at best. Dent was the over-eccentric buddy... nothing more. Everyone else (Richie, Morrison, Cameron) were only around for a few episodes, so hold nothing to Ash-Citron-this goes for Shota and Alain too. Eureka is a much more developed character than Max was, and I think she has had a lot of sad/cute episodes where she bonds with a Pokemon of the day. I enjoy Puni-Chan's character, and personally cant wait to see more interaction between it and "blueny-chan". 3. I concur. There is precious time left for pointless fillers like the Phantump episode. So the UPN community knows: Talon and I have weekly conversations going on for years now, and we discuss various anime/politics/current events/life events/ and literature or J-dramas, including classics like Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Dracula. During these hundreds of conversations, Pokemon has been visitied a lot. This late hour Phantump filler got about five sentences of text messages between us.... this may have included opinions on the preview for the next episode. I can only hope it was written before the studio was aware of the release date for Sun and Moon. 4. I am excited for the rest of the XYZ story, as the spoilers that I do know make everything here on out look like great story telling, and even further out, there is little time left for crappy filler. I want to remark though that even if Ash doesnt win the League, which more fandom than any other series is counting on, I will still happily follow him into Hawaii. I have dropped the series before, for a five year period, and found plenty other anime and other forms of entertainment to keep me nice and content, but I have enjoyed the story enough (discussions with Talon and some VERY entertaining youtube fans help round-out things) to stay interested and always in a good mood after viewing. Last edited by AK2; 05-26-2016 at 09:00 PM. Reason: Error |
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A: Serena. B: "Contests" are back C. Ash isn't in reset mode anymore D: His team is a lot more likable! E: I enjoy the rivals more 2. I whole-heartedly feel the same way that you do about Serena's exit. 3. I'm actually feeling like im playing it TOO safe about the quarter finals, believe it or not! A LOT of people in the fandom feel Ash may win this time due to events in upcoming episodes, but we will see. Unova proved that nothing can be known for sure, but I know that the fan reaction was pretty bad. I will stick with top 4 at the least, will be very surprised if he goes below top 8 (the favorite rank of the writers, as Johto, Houen, and Unova showed) 4. I like the Ash-Greninja storyline because it's new and fresh, and things start to get bumpy from where PocketMonsters subs is at and moving forward. |
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Watched Episode 25 of XY&Z several days ago. First 9/10 in a long while. The episode is held back by a couple things, but where it's good it's excellent. I appreciate that ShoPro is actually trying to write a character arc for Ash, something I feel like they've not done in years. And the animation between the return from commercial and the end of the battle was top notch for ShoPro, and even gave a few standard animes a run for their money in the "Yeah we can draw water pretty too" department.
I've tried finding the highlight of the episode for you guys to watch on YouTube, but it's either lo-res, has garbage audio, or has bad English subtitles that I know you won't be able to resist. So screw it: we'll settle for some slightly over-saturated animated gifs that one fan put on Tumblr: Spoiler: show Best Wishes and XY have taken different approaches to celebrating Ash's roster. In Unova, we had a team where lots of characters were celebrated, lots of characters had personality and history and some even had story arcs, but no one Pokémon was really Ash's "ace" or "main" for the region. Snivy was good, Oshawott was good, Pignite was fine, Unfezant won some battles ... no one really stood out at Pikachu or Charizard level. On the one hand this fits the "Unova is copying what Kanto did" theory nicely since Kanto gave us Squirtle and Charmander and Bulbasaur. But on the other hand, it's just as easy to point out how it doesn't quite fit the formula, how Charizard starts to peel away from the pack and that by the time we're in Johto it's very clear that Ash's team consists of Mascot Mouse, Charizard, and then everyone else in a very distant 3rd+ place. That appears to be the formula that Kalos has gone for here. Talonflame is sadly underdeveloped. Hawlucha had some great stuff written for him when he joined the team and then was forgotten. Noivern has no appeal. And Goodra's up in the air. But Greninja has been fashioned in the last thirty or so episodes to become sort of "the new Charizard," and while it doesn't tug on this viewer's heartstrings the way that Charizard did all through Kanto, Orange Islands, and Johto, I can appreciate how what they're doing is probably working wonders for the newest generation of viewers. Greninja is really, really cool and episodes like XY&Z solidify that.
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Ash and Greninja are so great I get chills whenever I watch them.
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Anyone else really disappointed with how the league is being handled? I thought I liked the approach initially but they're just racing right through everything.
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Ash's XY team is his best pokemon team he's had, with DP a close second. His Kanto and Hoenn teams were great too.
Also I'm not sure why it surprises some people that Ash usually has a "star" Pokemon each saga, usually whatever starter they're trying to promote. In the OS it was Charizard, in AG it was Sceptile, in DP Infernape, and now in XY Greninja. Johto didn't have one really because Charizard still came around, and Unova was well...Unova. The anime is always going to have filler simply because each saga goes on for as long until the next set of games comes out, but its not like you have to watch every single filler episode. Its pretty obvious many episodes are made just to showcase a pokemon that hadn't appeared in the anime yet, and if you don't like those eps just skip over them. |
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Second, dont get me wrong, fillers can be skipped, no problem, but as annoying as they can be, it wouldnt be as much as an experience (I love hearing commentaries by several youtubers, and my own discussions with Talon87 each week), even when the fillers are sub-par. I will certainly finish up Kalos, and depending on what happens with the League and Team Flare, Im sure I will watch Alola. However, if the fillers in it prove annoying.... well.... i may put it down for a year and binge watch for a day or two, or just.... skip crappy looking fillers and just tune in for major episodes.... I dont think I would be able to appreciate the characters as much though! |
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Will Ash Win Kalos League?
Hey guys sorry I haven't been on here lately! But I'm so excited for Ash to win the Kalos League! I mean he definitely will.
Anyway, if Ash wins then how do you want it to happen and do you want Ash's journey to end in Kalos? I mean I think it should, and then the new series Sun and Moon could be... Ash and Serena's kids??? ;) whatever. I won't go to far on that. What do you think?
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Welcome back! Hope all has been well with you. Hope you don't mind, but I went ahead and merged your thread with the existing XY thread in an effort to keep everything categorized here in the Anime forum.
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Thanks, deoxys. I should have posted that here in the first place oh well....
I mean the last battle was amazing. I was literally crying and I don't know why. It was that awesome.
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Luffy will find One Piece But I don't foresee Ash becoming a Pokemon Master.
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I actually think he will. This Alain guy is too cliché even for the animé.
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Gen 7 is the generation of innovation, clearly Ash will win this time so we can finally be rid of him.
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NEW SEASON WITH MAX AS PROTAGONIST!?
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Gonna be Ash x Eureka's daughter.
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Gotta feeling that Ash is going to win the Kalos league, but the feeling isn't really justified. So far, we've only Alain's Charizard and Metang(which is most likely a metagross now), and in the league, he's only used his Charizard. In the final match, it'll obviously be Greninja v Charizard(even Ash isn't dumb enough to lose 3 or 4 pokemon to Charizard before bringing out Greninja later on). The problem will be with the rest of Alain's team. Since Alain is perceived to be a strong trainer, we have to assume that his team of 6 has got to be stacked(not on the same level as Charizard but close to). Let's just hope this isn't like the Sinnoh Semi-finals since both Tobias and Alain have defeated all opposition with only one pokemon.
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Ash was gimped when he faced Tobias. His team will be at full strength against Alain, so Alain would have to be significantly stronger to both overcome a full strength Ash team, and a lack of countermeasures.
Ash also got screwed against Tobias where Charizard was taken out, and he stupidly didn't bring Snorlax to the conference. There is also speculation that Latios/Darkrai were the only Pokemon Tobias had that were powerful, and the rest of his team was probably filler. I mean in the games, that's no different from grinding your starter until it's fully evolved and riding it all the way to the Elite 4. I know some players did that. I did! I would be surprised if Alain's entire team was strong. Though I'd be concerned if Ash doesn't bring out the big guns for his battle, and instead puts in filler Pokemon - that would suggest history repeats itself.
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