10-02-2016, 03:41 PM | #2351 |
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NY Times dropped this bombshell: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us...ump-taxes.html
Trump filed for a $915 million loss in 1995 which may have allowed him to avoid taxes for 18 years. No wonder he didn't want to release them. Trump supporters BTFO |
10-02-2016, 03:47 PM | #2352 |
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Anyways, I would comment on the discussion that was just happening, but honestly if its gone on this long then neither side will be convinced (and its clear which one needs convincing).
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10-02-2016, 09:26 PM | #2353 | |
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Writing off losses on your taxes is something everyone does, whether your losses happened due to external factors or your own fault. I can see how some people might be peeved - this is like CEOs taking bonus packages when the company is laying off hourly wage earners - but given Trump's secrecy I was expecting something like tax fraud, which happens with surprising frequency for elected members of Congress or state governments. While this isn't flattering, you could infer as much from Trump's bankruptcy, and short of an actual crime, this is like whatever. It isn't as bad as rich people in Trump's caliber hiding money in Credit Suisse or UBS and getting outed when the US government forced those banks to disclose account owners. It isn't as bad as Hilary's emails. It's basically status quo behaviour for the uber rich, literally whatever. It also contributes to the narrative that while Trump will pursue any money-making scheme, there's close to no genuine malice in what he does. Like Trump University didn't go out to defraud students, it was just poorly run and managed. Now, I could be misinterpreting the scenario. If I have it wrong, please elaborate.
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10-02-2016, 09:34 PM | #2354 |
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If it's within the law, I really don't have a massive problem with it. At the time, he was a businessman first and foremost, so he did what was best for his business. Yeah, it's scummy. Yeah, it probably shouldn't be something that can happen. But at the end of the day, I agree with Dopple. It's status quo behavior by the uber rich, and it's not so much a problem with him as it is a problem with the system in and of itself. But also like Dopple said, as far as I can tell, no laws were broken. If that's not the case, then ignore pretty much everything I said.
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10-02-2016, 09:35 PM | #2355 |
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"I've made billions and billions of dollars"
"I've lost billions and billions of dollars" Yeah, the headline of "Trump doesn't pay taxes" is an issue, but taking a hammer to his business success (if it sets in) is more damaging. |
10-03-2016, 04:30 PM | #2356 |
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I enjoyed people talking out of their ass on this topic, killer stuff
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10-03-2016, 06:55 PM | #2357 |
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10-03-2016, 08:10 PM | #2358 |
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John Oliver on police accountability. Somewhat less information-packed than his usual episodes, but still an entertaining piece that echoes the appeal for more police accountability.
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10-03-2016, 09:55 PM | #2359 |
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Oh gods he sourced my hometown. I apologise now for any and all horror and frustration Bakersfield being brought into this may cause. Speaking as someone born and raised there, the locals all know Baakersfield cops are shit.
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10-03-2016, 10:11 PM | #2360 |
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On loss carryovers? K
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Anyway here's a video of Joe Biden classily and thoroughly shitting on Trump for his comments about war veterans suffering from PTSD Also the Trump Foundation was forced to cease operations today too because they didn't have the proper certification that a charity of that size has to have to operate, so that's pretty huge |
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If Trump abused the tax code, that's a problem with the tax code and not Trump. Actually, this is evidence AGAINST Hillary's tax reform plan, because if Trump could get away with paying nothing under the current plan then what the fuck is raising the tax rate going to do? Trump's still paying nothing. Clinton is not going to close the loopholes or force global corporations to bring their cash back to the states. I'm not saying Trump's tax plan is better than Hillary's - it's not - but its specific strengths align with Trump's financial campaign message: that he abused loopholes to amass a fortune and now he's going to close them so that the uber-rich can't do that anymore.
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10-04-2016, 06:14 AM | #2364 |
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According to WikiLeaks (don't quote me on how reliable it is, I honestly can't be arsed to find out), some of the emails seem to have been recovered to some extent.
If you compare this to Trump's billion dollar loss, this is probably less terrible since you can search at least something about the emails. On the other hand, what the heck can you do about the money Trump lost? Fairly sure nothing. Do those emails Clinton lost contribute to the economy? Fairly sure no. If we're talking law, both the lost money and the lost emails are rather questionable regardless, so you and Rangeet are honestly going nowhere being so fixated on those on who stands on the higher moral ground. On the topic of Trump trying to close up loopholes, he's basically trying to make it so that no one else can abuse the loopholes like he did and become as rich as him, no? /endbriefbrainfart |
10-04-2016, 07:24 AM | #2365 |
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I mean, both lack of foresight and corruption (the e-mails are objectively one or the other) are qualifications loads of presidents past have had!!!
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10-04-2016, 11:18 AM | #2366 |
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stabbing myself in the eyes rn
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10-04-2016, 11:19 AM | #2367 |
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Shifting gears a bit, I read Trump's comments on PTSD and they were taken out of context. Actually my interpretation of them actually got me thinking he was suggesting movies can give normal people PTSD, which I agree with, and is really the crux of the problem.
Muv-Luv Alternative, and the previous Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, focused heavily on PTSD and overcoming it. PTSD is basically an injury, a mental injury. You injure yourself slightly when doing training, but training is intended to bend, never break you. Similarly mental stresses like traumas are easier to handle if you move up to them. In theory, distant members of your family dying, who you knew, and pets, would make it easier to handle when you parents or even children die later in life. The common portrayal in those visual novels was that adolescents were subject to a a sudden, extreme trauma and had few emotional resources or experience from which to draw on and overcome it. More trauma drove them to suicidal behaviour, not normalcy. I feel like this is a common trend among the military that people don't want to talk about, but we really should. You take some 19 year old Lance Corporal in the Marine Corps, he gets pumped on Full Metal Jacket and listens to Black Sabbath during deployments, and his entire platoon gets IED'd. He's going to get PTSD 99.9% of the time. That kid isn't emotionally mature, and might even be off-kilter to start with, and his buddies all die in one giant fireball. My observation is people can live their entire lives and never really emotionally mature enough to handle stresses like that. Whether that guy is 19 or 49, physical maturity doesn't correlate strongly with mental maturity after adolescence.
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10-06-2016, 10:46 AM | #2368 |
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Oh noooo imagine that! We have to leave those loopholes open to foil Trump's evil plan to prevent other people from getting wealth through serious (but 100% legal) exploitation of the tax system!
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10-06-2016, 12:29 PM | #2369 |
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Oh, okay. I get it. Tax loopholes being moral or immoral is, I suppose, subjective, and while Trump does sound like a massive hypocrite for saying all the shit about taxes that he has, that's par for the course for him now. So I guess he has to be given a clean sheet on this one.
...Whoops. Nope, straight up illegal, too! The US should probably give David Fahrenthold a medal by now, eh?
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10-06-2016, 12:49 PM | #2370 |
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Yeah, I agree that it's likely that the info from the Washington Post articles linked in that article will turn out to be true should we get the definitive evidence at some point, and his whole charity situation is a whole lot more shitty than any tax evasion imo.
But regardless I find it really hard to take anything on that ShareBlue site seriously. Waaaaaaaaay too biased for me.
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10-07-2016, 05:36 PM | #2371 |
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loooooooooool donald "You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy." trump
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10-07-2016, 08:16 PM | #2372 |
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Trump is fucking done. After all of the shit he's done, you don't come back from something like that. He's not only about to lose a lot of right wing Christians (why he even had them in the first place is a mystery [oh wait, bcuz abortion]), he's almost definitely just alienated any undecided voters (how they could even exist, who knows)
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10-07-2016, 08:38 PM | #2373 |
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It's telling that he apologized for this incident.
...while also making sure to make a dig at Bill Clinton. Honestly I'm not sure if he's "done" because of this, but holy shit if this isn't very thick shit that sticks.
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10-08-2016, 02:21 PM | #2374 |
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I have to say, these new revelations really cast Trump in the same light.
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