04-18-2017, 06:58 PM | #151 | |
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Regarding the organization of the wishlist, we could have a shop owner (Shrine Maiden?) maintain a Master Directory of wishes in the first post, if that would help.
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04-18-2017, 09:18 PM | #153 | ||
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It is possible that it hasn't been decided yet, but is this intended to be a zone (or mini-zone) with updates, or a thread where a person makes a single post RPing how they obtained a Pokemon, with no updates involved? As an updated zone, it should have the same standards for RPing as the rest of the zones. The problem comes if it is intended as a single post. While the little blurb I used as an example is on the rather extreme end of short, the question becomes "how much effort should it take for a person to obtain their (likely very rare) dream Pokemon?" If the only restriction is that it is every six months, the amount of effort is comparable to picking up an egg. Possibly less, because a few sentences gives you the exact Pokemon you wanted vs. two posts a week apart gives you a random Pokemon of a certain type. If it doesn't cost anything to do this (and everything I've seen so far makes no mention of cost), then some level of minimum effort RP wise is the only thing preventing it from being Egg House level of work for better rewards. Obviously, it doesn't have to be terribly stringent, but a word minimum at the very least prevents people from getting exactly the Pokemon they want for five minutes of effort. Quote:
I still don't see the point of removing the wishlists from the trade thread to "prevent wish posts from getting buried with all the trades" only to immediately bury them with something else. This feature doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with the wishlists. Even if you require the Pokemon to be on a person's wishlist, it isn't as if they can't just edit a Dratini into their wishlist for five minutes so the can post to obtain one. If this is something that is going to involve updates, why not just make it an entirely separate thing? "A retired trainer runs a Safari Zone-esque area where he breeds and maintains rare Pokemon populations. Access is limited to ensure the populations stay at a healthy level, but occasionally, trainers are welcomed in to catch Pokemon". If it isn't, then I'm sure some other area can be created for the single post version. Edit: I love it when I go to hit preview post and hit post instead. The whole thing should be here now. Sorry about that. |
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04-18-2017, 09:41 PM | #154 |
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I would like shiny wishlist Pokémon to be as easily obtainable in zones as non-shiny wishlist Pokémon. Do whatever else you want, but make it so that when an updater decides to look up his person's wishlist and he sees that they want a shiny X and only a shiny X -- no non-shiny X's allowed -- that that updater can set for the zone reward the shiny just as easily as he could set for the zone reward the non-shiny.
I'll stop shy of saying that I think adventurers should be able to enforce-request that what they're getting is shiny, simply because I think that steps on the updater's toes a little too much. (For example, an updater might intend to write a story where a Pokémon starts the journey as a non-shiny only to become shiny near the very end.) I feel similarly about non-desired genders, body colors, and other attributes within a target species. Like, it does me no good if, as my updater, you're going to try and make my dreams come true by gifting me the opportunity to catch a male Togepi when what I want is a female. To hell with official gender ratios! If you're trying to be my Santa Claus, then you have to get the gift exactly right. All of this stated, I'm not sure how I feel about updaters having to play Santa Claus. Like ... selfishly, I'd very much like for my updaters to play Santa! hahaha But I don't know that I like the idea of updaters having to give you what you put on your wishlist. Is it a good thing ... Is it a bad thing ... I really don't know. I know that I personally would like it, and that for me the ills would be offset by the gains ... But I'm not sure that that holds true for everybody. Not even for everyone who thinks they're in my camp.
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04-18-2017, 10:14 PM | #155 |
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Right, so, quick side topic here, just want some quick replies as people are responding to everything else that's being talked about. It was discussed very briefly when this thread first went up, and I am beginning to see that it might be wanted so I'm bringing it up again.
Is anyone openly opposed to a subforum for voicing thoughts and proposals of change on individual topics? By this I mean each topic of discussion could have it's own thread (Legendaries, Boutique, Wish List, etc.) so that we're not effectively playing pinball with the point of discussion. This would also allow for discussion to keep going on things that would like to be back burnered for a moment (such as Talon's Legend discussion which was supposed to be able to continue with the point that other things might need prioritizing, rather being outright killed) while also not dragging away from things that need immediate attention of the community (i.e. the general proposal which has been covered at this point but you get my meaning). I just feel that at this stage we could perhaps use a tiny bit more organization as we go forward so everyone can bring forward what they consider important while also not having their point left for something else three posts later. |
04-18-2017, 10:36 PM | #156 |
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Yeah, I'd like a subforum.
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04-18-2017, 10:49 PM | #157 |
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A subforum's a great idea. Lot of good ideas and points being brought up in here, wouldn't be right for any of them to be buried under even more good ideas and points. The FB Development subforum over at BMG, something like that, I think it's a good idea.
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04-19-2017, 12:16 AM | #158 |
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We should really have a subforum yes. Think it will greatly benefit a structured discussion on a single topic as this thread, like Discord, goes all over the place.
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04-19-2017, 12:51 AM | #159 |
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A subforum should definitely be made as soon as possible. It would make it easier to organize discussion of many things at once, and not everyone is on Discord, so having a more organized place than just this thread for the entirety of the community to participate can only be beneficial.
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04-19-2017, 11:11 PM | #160 |
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I'm surprised it isn't made already. Make a long-lasting subforum called something like "Suggestions & Inquiries" or whatnot. Like the long-lived FAQ thread, only now it's a full-fledged subforum. And in it, people can post as threads those discussion topics which normally would be buried within the bellies of threads such as this one.
Then, not only do you have the benefit of multiple threads for the FB Revamp discussion, allowing you to discuss multiple topics without any one topic getting silenced or lost in the crowd, but you also have the same benefit for every future feedback-based discussion.
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04-20-2017, 03:47 AM | #161 |
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Subforum would be a great idea. It would help me see what the current topic is all about (as I tend to be confused with the multitudes of topics on the same thread orz)
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04-20-2017, 06:29 PM | #162 |
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Kuno wants to give the current mods a little more time to finish what they need to finish before any big changes are made. Hold out just a little longer with the current setup and we can start formally rearranging things soon.
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04-20-2017, 09:07 PM | #163 |
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Ok so for the sake of #clarity, two weeks back there was discussion on the state of Registration and what will be done in regards to changes or potential fixes.
I have posted a log of the discussion in the spoiler box below, with our usernames edited to be our forum names unless it is obvious (so there is no confusion) Spoiler: show Does anyone else have any thoughts as to what should be done with regards to registration? Anyone agree or disagree as to what was brought up here? Alto's Google Document can be found here
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04-21-2017, 10:49 PM | #164 |
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The registration test, as I recall it, required you to comprehensively search through every rules thread, every first post of every shop, and possibly the FAQ thread, in order to find the answers to the questions, and you weren't allowed to get a single one wrong. It's a bit much, to put it mildly. I mean, in theory I can see the idea behind it- make sure anyone coming into FB comes in with an understanding of the rules- but yeah, no, I'm all for reducing it to simply a test of a prospective member's RPing skills. Knowing the rules is important, but as far as simply getting into FB, I think RPing skills are the main thing. Learning the rules can come after actually making it in, I think.
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04-22-2017, 12:14 AM | #165 |
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Yeah the scavenger hunt was really bad and often times outdated. It's also in my opinion not what you want to give a new player as a first impression. Thirty-one different questions on rules paints a really bad impression: that the rules are more important than the RP itself.
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04-22-2017, 06:33 PM | #166 |
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Ok! So we're not just sitting around waiting until things start to move, let's get these ideas compiled into actual progress! The proposal has probably been read and accepted by now, so lets break it down a little shall we?
I have made a draft document for the New Adoption Centre, as that will probably come into play very soon for people who would like to reset. Emi has volunteered to tackle making a draft for registration and resetting processes, and will post it here when she's done. Members can comment (and edit hopefully) at their leisure so we can finally start building FB back up again. Once the development subforum is made, these docs could be added to whatever thread they seem necessary in. If you wish to draft up your ideas, feel free to make your own google document for us to comment on also. If we can start bringing things together now in terms of zones, updater rewards, shops or whatever then we can start dropping the new threads and stuff almost as soon as the new mods are put in place hopefully! I'm prob gonna try making these for the other shops today or tomorrow, unless someone else wants to first.
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04-22-2017, 10:28 PM | #167 |
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I had posted this before, but I had made a proposal for the Breeding Center, which I have now moved to a Google Doc for people to comment on.
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04-23-2017, 09:10 AM | #168 |
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Alright, FB has officially been handed over to the community. Let me know what you need me to do to assist with the transition.
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05-03-2017, 06:34 PM | #169 |
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I have stickied a number of threads in the Dev Forum; when a thread is stickied, these are the threads in which we want to see more discussion or finish up quickly. Please participate in the stickied threads first before moving on to others.
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