08-25-2013, 08:08 PM | #51 |
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You guys are a terrible influence. Getting me hooked on something the day before the school year starts. Sigh. Currently in the middle of Chapter 2 of DR1 and loving every second of it.
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08-25-2013, 08:28 PM | #53 |
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I would've done so earlier had I known you were going to command me in ALLCAPS. Chapter 2 spoilers upcoming!
Spoiler: show Post updated as I see more stuff! Going to post reactions to the next video in the next post I made.
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08-25-2013, 08:30 PM | #54 |
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WHENEVER ANYTHING HAPPENS TELL US WHO YOU THINK IS GONNA DIE AND WHO YOU THINK KILLED WHOEVER DIED AND TELL US HOW YOU THINK IT HAPPENED SO WE CAN SEE HOW WRONG YOU ARE
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08-25-2013, 08:33 PM | #55 |
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So yeah, now that I won't be interrupted anymore, giving my reactions to the last Chapter 2 video in this post.
Spoiler: show EDIT: Well crap, YouTube is being dumb and not working... eh I have school tomorrow I'll just go to bed and pick it up tomorrow.
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08-26-2013, 07:57 PM | #56 |
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09-02-2013, 11:32 AM | #59 |
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Finished the first Dangan Ronpa earlier today. Watching it blew my mind with all the twists and turns more times than I could've possibly imagined. One of the best stories I've ever read/watched for sure. My original plan was to move on to SDR2, but I've seen that there's something called Dangan Ronpa/Zero, which I guess is a prequel? (I didn't dig too deep in case of spoilers) So, well-versed fans, what do I read/watch next?
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09-02-2013, 11:50 AM | #60 |
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SDR2 is better first, because it reveals (or really expands on) important plot points that are discussed in detail in DR0. That way, you have a lot of the story walking into DR0 and you can get the whole story then.
Of course, I haven't read DR0 yet because I'm waiting on my Japanese copies to come in the mail, but that's what I've been told. |
09-02-2013, 12:20 PM | #61 |
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If Dangan Ronpa blew your mind, then Ever17 would vaporize it. I encourage you to check it out. Best of all, you can play it for yourself -- in English! It's a survival mystery about a small number of people trapped hundreds of feet beneath the surface of the ocean in an underwater theme park. It's a great game that is on many Top 5 lists for best visual novels of all time. YMMV but if you loved Dangan Ronpa then you should really love Ever17.
Another one you could try is its cousin, Remember11. It's about four people trapped in a log cabin on a mountain during a terrible snowstorm following the crash of their airplane ... as well as four people in a small sanitorium, one of whom the protagonist immediately recognizes to be a famous serial killer with dissociative identity disorder. (And for the record, Remember11 was published in 2004, so ...) I don't want to give too much more away, but suffice to say that the story has to do with psychology and theoretical physics. Like Ever17, Remember11's one you can play for yourself in English.
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09-02-2013, 02:22 PM | #62 |
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>Talon
It looks really super moe and almost H-Game-y (even if it obviously isn't). Part of what I liked a lot about DR (and SDR2 in particular) is the characterization and design of the characters. Ever17's cast looks really generically anime, which is the kind of thing I pretty actively avoid. |
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>generic anime look And I feel that your words precisely describe Dangan Ronpa. So I'll say it once again: if you didn't have a problem with Dangan Ronpa, then you shouldn't have a problem with my recommendations. If you have a personal hang-up for some reason with non-DS, non-PSP visual novels and have already decided to hate my recommendations without trying them out for yourself first, well, that's on you. I can't help that. But if you've got an open mind and are hungry for more good visual novels, then you should check out Ever17. The VN community on the whole tends to agree that it is one of the best (if not the best) visual novels of all time, so you're doing yourself a disservice not to if you already know of yourself, "Hey. I'm the sort of guy who likes visual novels. :o I liked Homestuck. I liked Phoenix Wright. I liked Dangan Ronpa. Man, maybe I should check out more of that genre ..." I'm not promising you Shakespeare, but then again, neither was Dangan Ronpa.
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09-02-2013, 03:22 PM | #64 |
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The only caveat I have to Ever17 is that when we all played it, that was 2007 and the year 2017 is rapidly coming upon us. Some of the technology or events in it may seem dated or even retro. Terabyte discs now exist when they were merely speculative technology in 2002, but no country passed a Clone Law in 2010.
Still, I have to echo Talon's sentiments, Jeri - you basically tiered your like of DR on the character designs and character development. They're not temporally equivalent. You had to like the character designs to play the game in the first place, but you'd be hard pressed to admit that after finishing both games you like the designs more than the characters, no? I'll admit Ever17 looks unspectacular, especially now, but the frame of reference I went into the story originally was that it was an H game, as VNs of that time presupposed the viewer was accustomed to a diet of such experiences and so wouldn't expect a solidly built story with the same appearance. A "subversion" *shrudder* if you will, not unlike Madoka Magica or other media involving the look of one genre, but the content of another. Even barring the super huge galactic twist at the end, the puzzle and mysteries of the story are so exquisitely linked (and skillfully revealed/presented) it's a satisfying play even in our modern world. You get the retrospective sense that you could have solved the mysteries yourself with the right frame of mind, sense of where to look, and ability to think outside the box. At the same time, you an appreciate the answers told to you (in an "oh, wow, so that was it! Why didn't I notice it sooner?!") kind of way, not a disappointing ("there's no way I could have solved that") sort of manner. As Talon says...this game is effectively free since the company that translated it has gone bankrupt. It's very much still a Masterpiece even if it's aged quite a bit in the 11 years since it came out. And we're still in 2013, so the story's events have yet to come to pass. /thinks back to Remember11
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I'm mostly skeptical of games that include a mostly-to-all female cast that is populated by loli-looking girls, because I know that most of the content is not aimed at me and I have no interest in games that are going to be highly driven by male-female relationships.
But that said I did a little more research and I'm at least convinced that it's not too dating-sim-y, so I still might check it out regardless. >Dopple The comparison with Madoka has me interested, though. I liked Madoka because it was very much a subversion of the genre, so if that's the case with this, I may very well like it. But this thread isn't about VNs in general and I'm too busy for something like that right at this second so I'll hold off on my decision for a while longer. |
09-06-2013, 12:37 AM | #67 |
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Alright, so I have been thoroughly convinced that I should get interested in DR. Somebody VM me a link to a LP that doesn't suck nuts, if you would be ever so kind. Unfortunately the link in the OP requires archive access and I don't feel like paying $10. Nor do I want to go through the thread in the event of any spoilers of any kind.
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09-06-2013, 02:28 AM | #69 |
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Check out Thee Daniel on YouTube if you want to actually watch the Let's Play instead of reading it. Here's the first part. It's very long, but he included the ability to fast forward at 2x the speed, which is how I watched most of it except important parts.
It's all in English, too, and he has NO commentary in any of the videos, it's just you and the game. |
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09-08-2013, 05:46 PM | #73 |
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So I just finished the fifth Class Trial and just... wat.
Everything up to this point has been fairly easy to piece together prior to their trials actually happening... so I'm going to see if I can rack my brain and figure out what actually happened before I continue. |
09-08-2013, 10:27 PM | #75 |
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I was so close. ;-;
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