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Old 04-15-2015, 02:18 PM   #1176
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Just from a quick bit of playing around on FG, his floatiness felt like it was some sort of mix between Roslina and Wario/Jiggly; his jump height is pretty high, but the average ascent/descent speed feels somewhat constant. (I was half awake and also not paying too close attention so maybe that's not the most accurate description.)

Also Sonic is really annoying and I appreciate the bthrow nerf.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:59 PM   #1177
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I haven't even played this patch yet but I already love it. Why?

1. THEY NERFED THE HOO HAH PRAISE THE LORD

2. They nerfed Sonic's Back Throw and I think also the startup time on his spin dash

3. Most importantly, they gave Wii Fit Trainer's Up Smash a hitbox on both sides of her instead of only above her. IT'S NOT USELESS ANYMORE

I am happy.
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:39 PM   #1178
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Last night I learned that King Dedede is amazing. I was playing 8 man smash with some friends and we decided to go with a Kirby theme for a match. At the start of the match I was placed next to Sonic and decided to test something out. I sucked him in and walked to the edge of the screen and then blew him out... to kill him with only 0% damage. I then preceded to kill everyone, taking at most 60% damage.
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:54 PM   #1179
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> 3. Most importantly, they gave Wii Fit Trainer's Up Smash a hitbox on both sides of her instead of only above her. IT'S NOT USELESS ANYMORE

why oh why wasn't this done earlier

finally some killmoves
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Old 04-15-2015, 05:46 PM   #1180
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>Plays Mewtwo

Hi new main. Seriously love mewtwo and list small little kill combos. Confusion into Down Smash is a monster.
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:42 PM   #1181
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>Sonic bthrow nerf

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Old 04-15-2015, 07:59 PM   #1182
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Ryu is likely Street Fighter. The only other I know is Breath of Fire, and I don't see that happening.
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Another famous Ryū with roots on a Nintendo system would be Hayabusa Ryū of Ninja Gaiden fame. Obviously Street Fighter II Ryū is 1) the more famous Ryū and 2) the Ryū more closely associated with fighting games, but it's not as though Tecmo's Ryū is an obscure character in modern gaming circles. Lots of nostalgiajerking regarding the original Ninja Gaiden games. Lots of general awareness regarding the XBox Ninja Gaiden originals.

I'd put my money on Street Fighter II Ryū too, but I wouldn't count Hayabusa Ryū out entirely just yet.


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Is he out already? I haven't gotten my code yet.

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While I'd like to think it'd be pretty awesome to have Ryu in a Smash Bros. game, it admittedly feels like too little, too late at this point. He would have filled Captain Falcon's shoes ages ago, had he been one of the original roster characters in Super Smash Bros. on the N64. "Hey, I'm the human character. Look at my kicks and punches!" But now in 2015 and the world of Sm4sh, Ryu just feels like he's too set up for mediocrity. And that's not what Ryu is supposed to be. Ryu's supposed to be one of the top tier characters in any fighter he shows up in. He's frickin' Ryu, man! D: To have him losing to the likes of Diddy Kong or the Ice Climbers ... it may have been acceptable for Mega Man or Sonic, but it sure as hell isn't acceptable for a Street Fighter II legend.

tl;dr I want to believe. I want to believe that this will be awesome.
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:04 AM   #1183
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Old 04-23-2015, 02:13 PM   #1184
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Either way, Mewtwo's pretty fun, though the one thing I kinda dislike about him is that he dies completely too early for his size (like 70-80% depending on the move, rage, etc.)
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Old 04-23-2015, 05:02 PM   #1185
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Mewtwo may be rather light, but I think he more than makes up for it with his powerful kill moves and his general evasiveness. Looking forward to trying him out soon.
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Old 04-23-2015, 05:18 PM   #1186
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I wouldn't give mewtwo that much credibility, his forward air, and smashes seem powerful, but overall he doesn't seem particuarly fast, especially in the air- he in fact seems so floaty that he's incredibly easy to geenrate a lot of damage, if not for his range (neutral air, bair, etc.) he'd be and still is very punishable.

He's definently an ok character though.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:04 AM   #1187
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Lots of leaks from the early JPN version update, found this on SPPf's SSB4 thread. DO NOT OPEN IF YOU WANT TO AVOID SPOILERS FOR THE SSB4 LIVE STREAM 6/14

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Street Fighter stage and icon.




Dream Land 64 music list.



Dream Land 64 returns.
Fountain of Dreams music also returns.

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Source of all the leaks, if you're interested in more info.
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:18 AM   #1188
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DLC talk duh

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>Dream Land 64 on the Wii U as well

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Roy looks kind of boring, Lucas looks to be exactly the same and Ryu definitely seems interesting.

EDIT: Also the nod to the Masked Man is nice considering they don't seem to like to give us special costumes practically ever. Though I'll still be playing Klaus.
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:45 AM   #1189
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Seriously, ryu? Why the fuck? Makes no logical sense. Give zero shits about Roy or the stages, but I can see ryu ruining smash for me.
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:49 AM   #1190
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He's an icon to the entire fighting game genre, that Smash belongs to. Not to mention, Street Fighter has history with Nintendo just like Mega Man. I don't see how an optional character is going to ruin an already great game.
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Old 06-13-2015, 12:20 PM   #1191
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SF and Smash are pretty different styles of fighting games. Ryu may be iconic of fighting games, yes, but that doesn't mean he should be here. It just feels... wrong, seeing ryu in smash. Smash is a Nintendo collaboration of characters, with things from their franchises adapted to a spacey fighting game. Street Fighter is up close and personal 1v1s, with characters designed mostly specifically for the game.
Also, the third party stuff's iconic characters that are from either old franchises that to my knowledge, don't produce games anymore (megaman), produce games rarely (pacman), or produce awful games nowadays (sonic). SF fits none of those categories.

Mainly, I have personal issues with seeing that character in smash, and I'd rather they not be in there.
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Old 06-13-2015, 12:24 PM   #1192
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Also, the third party stuff's iconic characters that are from either old franchises that to my knowledge, don't produce games anymore (megaman), produce games rarely (pacman), or produce awful games nowadays (sonic).
Pretty sure Metal Gear Solid is none of those.
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Old 06-13-2015, 12:30 PM   #1193
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Actually, Ryu's fighting style is supposed to be able to combo more fluidly, or so I heard. Meaning that they'll give him his own unique fighting style that tries to replicate the feel of Street Fighter games.
Also, your second point means nothing. At the time of Brawl's release, Metal Gear Solid wouldn't be considered an old franchise that doesn't make games, produce games rarely, or produce awful games. So that never stopped Snake from joining. Sure, he was asked for by Kojima, but your argument doesn't really hold up well, personally.


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Old 06-13-2015, 01:22 PM   #1194
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SF was a huge SNES game. It's a major part of Nintendo's legacy and Ryu is a great way of honoring that. You're being kind of silly.
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Old 06-13-2015, 01:39 PM   #1195
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I did say it was more of a personal thing. Also, MGS has fuck-all to do with it, I'm applying this to sm4sh, not brawl.
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Old 06-13-2015, 02:29 PM   #1196
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I'm a bit annoyed by it too, but eh.
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Sure, I suggested Ryu for Smash, but that was as a joke. He's already in every kind of possible crossover fighter there is. I sort of didn't want that cliche to apply to smash as well. Oh well. It didn't piss in my cereal or anything. Afterall, it's hard to not see coming. What I really want to see is Ryu fight Katamari Damaci or something.
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:01 AM   #1197
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Oh my God, all that leaked stuff from yesterday I showed

Is released today at 8:00 AM PST

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Old 06-14-2015, 10:02 AM   #1198
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Wow. Wasn't sure before that, but I might actually get Ryu now. Also, they're making you pay for the fucking Dream World stage? Dafuq?
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I'm waiting till tomorrow lol. I already got an error from the eShop on my 3DS so there's no point in even trying to DL today.
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