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Old 01-17-2017, 03:20 AM   #76
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Apparently the Switch isn't replacing the 3DS.

(Not aimed at anyone, just something I saw that hadn't been seen here as far as I can be bothered to check.)
Young one, this is exactly what they said when they revealed the DS at E3 many years ago ...

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Kaplan said the DS isn't a replacement for the aging SP. She said Nintendo is targeting the DS, with its wireless and touch screen capabilities, at older, more sophisticated "early-adopter" style gamers.
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories...s_427229.shtml

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Nintendo is just saying this so that they can continue to ride off the success of the 3DS if the Switch fails. They had the same plan for the DS; they were worried about sales numbers, so they told people that the GBA wouldn't be replaced by the DS
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ds-with-switch

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Remember when Nintendo said the DS was NOT gonna be GBA's successor? And that there would be another handheld released to replace the GBA? So much for that eh?
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/ninte...na-b-26851799/

You're too young to remember this, but I was older then than you are now. I remember it well. The GBA had only just come out three short years earlier (2001), and yet already (2004) Nintendo was rolling out this strange new clamshell device called the DS. They swore up and down that it was only a novelty item meant to co-exist alongside the GBA, that the GBA would continue to be the home for the biggest releases whereas the DS would be an exotic side platform meant to house titles built from the ground up to utilize the dual screens and the touch-sensitive bottom screen.

They lied.
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Old 01-20-2017, 12:31 AM   #77
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Nintendo's proven the past couple of generations they're stingy as all hell with their game prices. Their digital sale prices are universally mocked and unless the games a bomb their retail games are still full price many years later (hellos $40 Mario 64 DS).
I took these photos I want to say less than a day before you posted what you wrote here, but I've only just uploaded them from my phone. Here. Have these, from one of the Wal-Marts in Lafayette, Indiana:

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Exhibit A. Pokémon Sun and Moon (2016, Gen 7), priced at $39.82

Exhibit B. Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire (2014, Gen 6), priced at $39.96



Exhibit C. Pokémon X and Y (2013, Gen 6), priced at $39.96
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:10 AM   #78
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But, outside of no longer being used in Nintendo's official competitive format for 2017 tournaments, has anything occurred to actually devalue those games since their release? They're still a unique Pokemon adventure on Nintendo's current handheld platform (Until they actually give the New 3DS a proper push into relevancy). Just because they aren't the newest game in the main series doesn't mean their price should automatically be cheaper.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:08 AM   #79
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http://www.gamestop.com/ds/games/pokemon-diamond/64184

D/P has never been less than $40. I've learned that if I want a game from Nintendo, it's better to preorder the game and pay for it little by little rather than hope for a price drop.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:43 AM   #80
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http://www.gamestop.com/ds/games/pokemon-diamond/64184

D/P has never been less than $40. I've learned that if I want a game from Nintendo, it's better to preorder the game and pay for it little by little rather than hope for a price drop.
It was the same for Emerald and the GBA games. Pokemon games just don't drop in price.

That being said, 2 black friday's ago, xy and oras were half off at my local target. That was a shocker.
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Old 01-20-2017, 01:35 PM   #81
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I'm pretty sure most of the reason for a lack of pricedrop is their "necessity" for dex completion. You can't get Xerneas in SM or ORAS. Until HGSS you need RSE to get Rayquaza, Groudon, and Kyogre, etc., and RSE were consistently $15-20 more than pretty much every GBA game while they were still being sold used. It's always been the case that Pokemon games have had inflated price points while other games have taken price drops.

Hell, the DS PMD games are $25.
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Old 01-31-2017, 04:22 PM   #82
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First I've heard this: Nintendo's shares dropped after the Switch reveal. And lest I steal the article's thunder, the juicy climax in the spoiler tag below:

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Apparently they lost 5.75% of their share value, or 205 billion yen. O_O This is the equivalent today of Ł1.45 billion or $1.82 billion.

To be fair, the company is still valued higher today than it was this time last year.

And if you do the math, the story would suggest that Nintendo is still valued at around $32 billion. That places the company well ahead of most American corporations you can think of, the obvious giants in the room (like Amazon and Microsoft) excepted. To say nothing of their over $1 trillion in assets. Compare that with Target, with assets totaling "only" $40 billion. Or IBM, with total assets of roughly $110 billion. Nintendo has nearly ten times as much in assets as the whole of IBM. Chew on that.

All the same, losing 5% of your company's publicly traded value after the unveiling of your new product is not good.

Separate news story: Nintendo has confirmed that they will be offering battery replacement as a paid service. The price is not yet known. One of my main reasons for holding off on buying a launch Switch is the battery, as I had hoped a Switch Lite revision would see a return to user-replaceable batteries. But most commenters online have noted that Samsung and Apple smartphones have never let you do this and the move in the market is generally away from user-replaceables and towards this.

JoyCons apparently will sell for $49.99 per stick, and $79.99 for a bundle pack containing one of each. If it were $49.99 for the pair, fine, but $80 for the pair is kinda crappy seeing as most XBox One and PS4 controllers only cost around $50, and a full second controller is the price of admission for friends coming over to play multiplayer games with you.
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Old 01-31-2017, 05:27 PM   #83
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To be fair in relation to their stocks and whatnot, the share prices dropped after its initial video reveal as well, which was incredibly well received by most anybody besides the shareholders it seems. Nintendo's stock appears to primarily only go up when mobile games or the success of mobile games are mentioned, as seen when Pokemon Go's success inflated Nintendo's stock incredibly despite it not even really being Nintendo's game and such.

A more reasonable assessment (potentially) of the console's success or otherwise I would think would be its pre-order numbers so far. To start with, Nintendo is ramping up production from its initial plans of moving 2 million units for its first month due to the sheer amount of pre-orders. Many retailers worldwide have completely sold through their pre-orders, many in the first day of the Switch's announcement. If we assume that they manage to sell through their initial Nintendo Switch stock of 2 million in the first month, that would put its launch far ahead of the Wii U's 890k (which was still surprisingly good for the console) and more on par with the PS4's launch where they'd sold 2.1 million units in the first 2-3 weeks and 4.2 million by the end of December (about a month and a half after release). If the Switch patterns that release, outside of holiday season no less, I think the launch could pretty easily be considered a success. Now, obviously we'll have to see how many pre-orders have ended up being cancelled and this sort of analysis could be wildly off base so I guess we'll see lol
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:41 PM   #84
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It appears Kimishima has announced the price range for the Nintendo Switch online services, which looks to be between 2000-3000 yenper year, or around $17-26 year. That's not bad at all actually.
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>tfw online price is a third of what people were expecting

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That is actually fantastic. Wow.
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Old 02-01-2017, 09:36 PM   #87
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On the one hand, $20/yr sounds pretty nice.

On the other hand, why the fuck am I paying Game Freak $5/yr for Pokémon Bank?
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Old 02-02-2017, 02:23 AM   #88
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:33 PM   #89
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So $30 a year in US funbucks? Plenty of wiggle room for 'em to up the price over the years just as MS/Sony have while still getting to say they're the cheapest.

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On the one hand, $20/yr sounds pretty nice.

On the other hand, why the fuck am I paying Game Freak $5/yr for Pokémon Bank?
Why are people paying for Live/PSN when PC gamers don't have to? Even better when Live/PSN games allow people to play against people on the PC versions!
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So $30 a year in US funbucks? Plenty of wiggle room for 'em to up the price over the years just as MS/Sony have while still getting to say they're the cheapest.
What precedence is there for this? Nintendo has never been known to arbitrarily jack up prices once they've been set, as far as I recall (though I'm young so I may just not remember/have been aware when it happened). Remember, this is the company that's only just making Online Multiplayer cost extra cash. PSN did it 7 years ago, XBox Live even further back than that. Unless you mean the $5 dollar up-charge we'll probably see for the next console because that's how inflation works?

Maybe your jaded outlook on this is justified by information I don't have, but if that isn't the case then I don't see where it's valid to assume that their surprisingly cheap online service will be randomly jacked up in a year or two. This is Nintendo we're talking about, not AT&T.

Also, nitpicking, but $15-$25 is very different from $30. Your figure is half the price of XBox Live Gold (Great), whereas the actual figure looks to be coming out to around a third, or even as low as a quarter (Absolutely Fantastic)

I get that you don't like that Online Multiplayer isn't free like it is for PC gaming, but them's the breaks. In all reality, I'm happy it isn't gonna cost $60 like it might have. $20 in a year is something pretty much anyone can afford. Besides, I would actually argue Nintendo has more of a reason to bill for such things than Microsoft or Sony do given they have much more (and higher quality imo) first party content at their disposal- while you might be able to easily ditch your XBox One for a PC, ditching a Switch for one is much harder since you won't get the chance to play Mario or Pokemon.
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Old 02-02-2017, 10:12 PM   #91
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What precedence is there for this? Nintendo has never been known to arbitrarily jack up prices once they've been set, as far as I recall (though I'm young so I may just not remember/have been aware when it happened). Remember, this is the company that's only just making Online Multiplayer cost extra cash. PSN did it 7 years ago, XBox Live even further back than that.
Nintendo wasn't known for charging for online play until now. They're following precedence set by others. Wouldn't be surprising at all for 'em to follow suit an gradually raise their price, or do a higher tier Nintendo+++ type of thing.

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Also, nitpicking, but $15-$25 is very different from $30. Your figure is half the price of XBox Live Gold (Great), whereas the actual figure looks to be coming out to around a third, or even as low as a quarter (Absolutely Fantastic)
We don't know that the JP price will translate exactly to the US price. I mean, we don't even know the JP price period yet just that its somewhere in the $15-25 range! An who knows if seemingly inevitable tariffs will come into play? Or even just currency devaluation. Poor Canada just above us has been suffering gaming prices higher than ours for over a year now, an at the end of this month their Live fee goes up by $10. Besides as some of us saw with the initial Switch price reveal, its prolly better ta bet high then to have your head in the clouds of dreamland and expect a lower price. At the very least if it does come in lower ya can be pleasantly(?) surprised!

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Old 02-07-2017, 04:52 PM   #92
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That said, Switch is not backward compatible with games designed for other systems, and is not currently compatible with controllers designed for other systems. Support for certain controllers may be considered for a future update.
May be considered? For reals?

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In some cases, games from past systems may be re-released for the Nintendo Switch system as either enhanced or original versions.
Nintendo following precedence of others by cutting off BC in order to resell Definitive Editions eh?

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As for Miiverse, while Miiverse will continue to be supported on the Wii U and Nintendo 3DS systems, our approach with the Switch is to make greater use of other established, broadly used social platforms. For example, capturing gameplay screenshots to share on popular social networks, and social features such as voice chat are possible with smart devices through our app.
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And in terms of the Internet browser, since all of our efforts have gone toward making Switch an amazing dedicated video game platform, it will not support it, at least at launch.
Ya can share to twitter/facebook but without a browser there's no way to see peoples responses to what you've shared. Also a tablet in 2017 without a browser? Sheesh.

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Next, whether Nintendo eShop is fully supported and functioning for Switch at launch, we can confirm that it will be possible to purchase and play downloaded software at launch, but we are not sharing further details at this time.
Its February 7th Nintendo.


tl;dr "we've been sitting on our thumbs for the past 2-3 years, enjoy buying into the Switch Early Beta!"
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