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Old 01-20-2022, 05:12 PM   #26
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It also looks like Hidden Power was reworked. It's now a permanent Normal type move, but its special property is that it'll change type to always hit the opponent for super-effective damage.

That means Hidden Power Ice, Hidden Power Fire are now one in the same. Kill Lando, kill Ferrothorn, no thinking required.
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Old 01-20-2022, 05:22 PM   #27
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It also looks like Hidden Power was reworked. It's now a permanent Normal type move, but its special property is that it'll change type to always hit the opponent for super-effective damage.

That means Hidden Power Ice, Hidden Power Fire are now one in the same. Kill Lando, kill Ferrothorn, no thinking required.
I'd hold the celebrations till we're sure it's not BDSP implementation. IE only for Unown.
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Old 01-20-2022, 05:51 PM   #28
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Hazard moves also do damage now too, with the (unblockable) secondary effect of setting the hazard. That means Assault Vest Tyranitar can potentially OHKO Volcarona with Stealth Rock, although it's only a 40 BP move.

Spikes is now a Normal-type move. Stone Axe has a secondary Stealth Rock effect, and Pin Missile has a secondary Spikes effect.

It looks to me like regular Protean Greninja is nerfed significantly by these changes, potentially losing Hidden Power and also Spike's Ground typing. But Ash-Greninja is stronger by virtue of everything else getting weaker. Dark Pulse now bypasses accuracy checks and Hydro Pump is a 100 BP, 85% Accuracy move.

I bet Kyurem gets unbanned after this. With no more Freeze, Draco Meteor at 110 BP and Ice Beam at 80 BP, Kyurem's best overall move is spamming Freeze Dry.
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:20 PM   #29
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Overqwil is the best name ever.
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Old 01-21-2022, 05:44 AM   #30
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Hazard moves also do damage now too, with the (unblockable) secondary effect of setting the hazard. That means Assault Vest Tyranitar can potentially OHKO Volcarona with Stealth Rock, although it's only a 40 BP move.
It doesn't set the hazard, it just does typeless damage over time. Think like Burn or Poison.
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Old 01-21-2022, 07:58 AM   #31
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Oof. I don't know if singles will continue to exist if that's a permanent change.
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tbh hazards are as much a hindrance to singles as they are a help. And it seems like it is its own status condition so it'll stick even through switches.
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Old 01-24-2022, 03:58 AM   #33
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Is anyone playing it? How good is it?

If it's isekai, are y'all getting a harem of jade waifus?!
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Old 01-25-2022, 10:54 PM   #34
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Overqwil is the best name ever.
this is my main takeaway as well.

idk if I'll be buying the game, like I'll probably give it a shot at some point but holy hell does it seem like there are lots of mechanics changes and all that. that'll take some getting used to for sure
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Old 01-27-2022, 03:17 AM   #35
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Yikes. I hope this reviewer is just stupid and the game actually isn't bad.

NOTHING can be worse than Sword/Shield and BDSP.

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Old 01-30-2022, 04:52 PM   #36
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Why did you link to an Italian review?

Blastoise has a review on UPN!

I watched my friend play on stream. Visually the game looks good. The models are cute and the Pokemon have okay emotes. But the first hour, the gameplay makes it look bad. But after that it gets better. There's definitely issues though. It's unlikely to replace the mainline series formula, but it's an interesting experiment and there could very likely be improvements they can learn from Legends Arceus.
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