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Old 09-20-2014, 12:09 PM   #276
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Ah yes, the old human nature study based entirely on 26 Harvard freshmen.
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Old 09-20-2014, 02:02 PM   #277
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apparently it's a meaningless statistic becsuse
the sample size is under 100.
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Old 09-20-2014, 04:45 PM   #278
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Apparently there are accusations of vote-rigging flying around, as well as reports of riots in Glasgow involving No supporters attacking peaceful Yes protesters. Nazi salutes have been mentioned.

Just caught up on my Tumblr feed and this shit is all over it.
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:02 PM   #279
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Apparently there are accusations of vote-rigging flying around, as well as reports of riots in Glasgow involving No supporters attacking peaceful Yes protesters. Nazi salutes have been mentioned.

Just caught up on my Tumblr feed and this shit is all over it.
Sounds like American politics as usual. Similar to the Scottish situation, our cities tend to vote more liberally (i.e. for change) while our rural areas tend to vote more conservatively (i.e. for the status quo or for a return to older ways). When the rural voters get what they want (e.g. a presidential election which sees a Republican winning), it's common for urban areas (and for suburban areas in typically more liberal regions of the country) to be incredulous about the outcome since everyone they personally know was against it. It sounds like the citizens of Glasgow, one of few regions on the map to swing more heavily towards Yes than towards No, are currently experiencing this phenomenon.

Of course, if evidence comes forward that there was massive, widespread rigging (and not just several thousand votes at one or two polling centers), then that's a different story. :o Keep us informed! I doubt that they'll find this, but who knows. If a majority of people across all the counties of Scotland are experiencing disbelief at the outcome right now, it speaks a lot more strongly in favor of the rigged votes theory than if it's only Glasgow and a few of the other blue areas afire.
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:08 PM   #280
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There were a few videos on my dash of 'rigging', not sure. Might link some if this persists.

Glasgow was the big place that voted Yes, along with a couple of districts next to it and one of the Dundee districts away to the North-East. Glasgow is the biggest city in Scotland, while Edinburgh, the capital, voted No.
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:36 PM   #281
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I've not been watching the news too closely but the initial story about possible electoral fraud referred to ten instances of people turning up at polling stations in Glasgow who'd apparently already voted. Ten. Best I can tell this is just the usual selfish tits who can't accept that other people are allowed opinions too, and are expressing their anger by shouting at things.
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:38 PM   #282
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It was videos of vote counters moving votes from the Yes pile to the No pile, if that means anything.

I mean I think it's all pretty sensationalist myself.
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:40 PM   #283
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This is what I saw.

EDIT the first: A quick bit of digging on what Dave mentioned reveals the source of the controversy is an apparent Yes ballot sitting atop a pile on a table marked for No ballets in Dundee. However the Yes campaign for Dundee have clarified that this picture is from before any vote sorting, and all the votes were simply sitting on that table at the time. Again this clarification came from the Yes campaign, so it's about as trustworthy as it's possible to be on the "we can believe that they're not trying to cover up pro-No rigging".
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:40 PM   #284
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Weren't those just ballots that were considered invalid for whatever reason (totally blanking on the actual term right now)
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I dunno it was just a vid of people moving votes and a voice-over going 'OMG THIS IS TOTALLY EVIDENCE OF VOTE-RIGGING' and then I kind of stopped paying attention.
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Old 09-21-2014, 04:00 AM   #286
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Yeah those people have clearly never been to a vote count. There has clearly not been wholesale vote fraud.

What there has been is vitriolic bile and lying from both sides. And Cameron has played future devolution in such a way that labour can't really support it because he's a political wanker so there's that to look forward to.
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Old 09-21-2014, 06:44 AM   #287
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Apologies, Talon. I should've read more carefully. Also, I don't think we will have another referendum on this matter for another century. Regardless of what you think about Alexander Salmond, he and this issue did polarise the entirety of Scotland. Giving the Scottish people some time to rest and remend their bonds would probably in everybody's best interests.
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Old 09-25-2014, 03:25 AM   #288
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I've been in Yorkshire for a couple of weeks. I was almost disappointed that there wasn't a day of reckoning with rioting in the streets and citizens up in arms and stuff. Summer is supposed to be the time for REVOLUTION!
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:05 AM   #289
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It's not summer anymore, Morg! It is now autumn, the season of complacency! Get with the times!
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:37 AM   #290
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>Morg in Yorkshire

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Old 10-07-2014, 09:11 AM   #291
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So the by-election for Clacton (where Tory MP Douglas Carswell defected to UKIP) is I believe this Thursday. The real question on everyones mind; can Howling Laud Hope become the first elected Monster Raving Loony Party MP?

We can but hope.
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Old 10-07-2014, 06:04 PM   #292
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:33 AM   #293
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Double post but fuck off. As a criminologist academic, Chris Grayling (referred to as FUCKIN GRAYLING from here on) is basically my mortal enemy. I'm interested to hear other UK residents' opinion of this galactic-sized cunt, hell-bent on suppressing academic reports into sexual abuse in prisons and outright ignoring every single bit of empirical evidence showing how prisons are failing and making people worse, while outright trying to make them worse. FUCKIN GRAYLING.
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Chris Grayling is indeed an awful human being.
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When Kush proclaims this, you know how serious it is.

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Old 11-09-2014, 03:16 PM   #296
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I may be evil but I'm not a Conservative.
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And UKIP take the Rochester by election.
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Yeah, it's a weird one, six weeks ago I was saying that the Tories would take it but by about two weeks ago it was apparent that they'd fluffed it, which in combination with Labour totally giving up on it meant it was always going to go purple. Rochester is reasonably likely to swing back to blue in May, viewed from today's perspective, where Clacton very much is not. It's a good time to work in politics.
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:03 AM   #299
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Just saw a news story on YouTube in which the commentators discussed a recent British law which forbids British subjects from watching various types of pornography, including (and not limited to) porn where someone is spanked beyond a level considered to be "gentle," porn where the woman ejaculates, and porn where either party sits on the other's face. Don't get me wrong, the law also outlaws some hardercore things that we'd all probably agree are harder to defend (e.g. sex with violent caning or whipping, sex where a firearm is used to probe someone's bodily orifices), but it bans relatively tame things like facesitting ... and I don't even begin to understand the rationale in banning porn on the basis of female ejaculation. (Aside from the view that female ejaculation isn't real and is just women pissing themselves, as it should be noted that the law also prohibits pornography featuring urination. But I thought we agreed ages ago that female ejaculation is likely related to Bartholin's glands or Skene's glands or similar and that it is demonstrably not urine, which a woman can also release post-coitus. Anyway ...)

Anyone know more about this law than American YouTube tabloids? Whether it's been enacted, whom it affects, how much awareness the public has of it, how severe the penalties are, etc?
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