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Old 09-26-2010, 08:32 AM   #201
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Eh, I'm laying off Nuzlocke for a bit. I'm raising a Spearow on Leafgreen while watching a play-through of FROmega. I'm trying to catch and raise 'em all.
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Old 10-02-2010, 03:24 AM   #202
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It's over. Wattson killed them all. That Magneton screwed me over.
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Old 10-02-2010, 11:11 PM   #203
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How do I record videos/me talking along with it with No$gba?

I'm interested in doing a video series playing FRO, or doing a mono/nuzlocke run in standard FR

Alternatively, I also have a VBA somewhere in the external harddrive.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:43 PM   #204
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Methinks I'll start one of these on Ruby.
I'll be using these rules-
Faint=Death.
All are nicknamed.
Can only catch the first Pokemon on each route. Even if I already have a member of the Species.
If all Pokemon die, it's game over.
If my party is full, I can have a Maximum of 6 pokemon in the PC as Back-up

Adventure Log-
- Started the Run-Through
- Recieved LOL-Burger the Treecko from Prof. Birch
- Defeated May's Torchic with LOL-Burger
- Captured Bob the Zigagoon
- Caught Nell the Ralts
- Caught Wormface the Wurmple
- Caught Wings the Taillow
- LOL-Burger evolved into Grovyle
- Defeated Roxanne
- Wild Makuhita got a Critical hit on Bob, Bob Died.
- That same damn Makuhita Killed Wormface.
- Captured that damn Makuhita, named him Yama.
- Gave Steven his letter.
- Defeated Brawly.
- Caught Minni the Minun.
- Caught Pikablu the Marrill.
- Yama evolved into Hariyama.
- Nell evolved into Kirlia.
- Wings evolved into Swellow.
- Pikablu evolved into Azumarill.
- Defeated Wattson.

Team-

LOL-Burger the Grovyle- Lv. 27
Yama the Hariyama- Lv. 27
Nell the Kirlia- Lv. 28
Wings the Swellow- Lv. 29
Pikablu the Azumarill- Lv. 28
Minni the Minun- Lv. 30

Dead-
Bob the Zigzagoon- Lv. 2-14
Wormface the Wurmple- Lv.3-6

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Old 10-28-2010, 06:25 AM   #205
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Started a LeafGreen run.

- Chose Squirtle. Named him Sheldon
- Route 1 encounter (No catch there, then.)
- Delivered Oak's Parcel.
- Caught Jerry the Ratatta on Route 22
- Caught Beaker the Pidgey on Route 2
- Caught Buzz Boy the Weedle in Viridian Forest.
- Buzz Boy dies to a crit while grinding. RIP. (Level 3-6)
- Kick Gary's butt.
- Got through Viridian forest without getting poisoned. I bought 10 Antidotes, too.
- Decimated Brock With Sheldon, who learns Water Gun during the fight and destroys Onix in one hit.
- Caught Mr. Grumpy the Mankey on Route 3
- Mr. Grumpy dies to a crit while grinding. RIP (Level 7-9)
- Caught Batti the Zubat in Mt. Moon. She is promptly boxed.
- Whilst navigating mount moon, a Rocket's Ratatta kills Beaker with a crit Hyper Fang. RIP (Level 2-17). Sheldon evolves during the exploration.
- Hit Cerulean City.
- Blow Route 4 capture, Losing Batti who I bought out to try and help due to other guys being too powerfull. RIP (Level 7)
- Defeat Misty with Sheldon's Mega Kick + Bite.
- Defeat Gary.

And that's where I am now.

Team:
Sheldon the Level 21 Male Wartortle
Jerry the Level 19 Male Ratatta

Dead:
Buzz Boy the Male Weedle (Level 3-6)
Mr. Grumpy the Male Mankey (Level 7-9)
Beaker the Male Pidgey (Level 2-17)
Batti the Female Zubat (Level 7)
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Old 10-28-2010, 11:00 PM   #206
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Oh, this looks fun. I guess I'll start a SS one once I get home.
So:
-Chose Chikorita (Named her Isis).
-Grinded once I ran into a Pokémon on Routes 29&30 (got up to Level 11).
-Whupped the rival.
-Caught Lavender the Rattata on Route 46.
-Got Lavender a few levels before getting up to Route 31 (got her to 11, got Isis to 12).
-Caught a Kakuna on my first step into Route 31 (named her Geraea).
-When to Dark Cave, and caught a Geodude (named him Zante).
-Got a few levels for Zante before going to Violet City.
-Caught Solanum the Gastly at the Sprout Tower.
-Left to get more levels for the newest additions to my team.
Party:
Solanum the Gastly
Zante the Geodude
Geraea the Kakuna
Lavender the Rattata
Isis the Chikorita
Graveyard:

Rules:
-Standard Nuzlocke rules
-No purchase of TMs or Healing items is allowed.
-All names have to be related to flowers.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:00 PM   #207
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So people, I need advice. I'm coming up to Koga on my Leafgreen run, and I'm wondering what's a good level for the team.

Team:
Plant-Dude the Victreebel
Fluttrella the Butterfree
Sandy the Sandslash
Flare the Ninetails
Electron the Electrode
Beaker III the Pidgeotto

Boxed:
Boo the Gastly
Geodudette the Geodude
MANLY FROG the Poliwhirl
BackupBird the Fearow
Tom the Meowth
Jerry the Raticate
Precious the Gyarados
Dozy the Snorlax
Steve the Venonat

Graveyard:
Buzz Boy the Weedle
Mr. Grumpy the Mankey
Beaker the Pidgey
Batti the Zubat
Burrower the Diglett
Bud the Eevee
Beaker II the Pidgeotto
Sheldon the Wartortle
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:01 PM   #208
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I won against the E4. No casualties.

Now for the Seviis and Mewtwo.

Team:
Blizz the Articuno
Steve the Venonat
Sandy the Sandslash
Flare the Ninetails
Electron the Electrode
Roc the Fearow

Boxed:
Pterri the Aerodactyl
Boo the Gastly
Geodudette the Geodude
MANLY FROG the Poliwhirl
Pinchy the Krabby
Tom the Meowth
Freaky the Doduo
GOLDEEN the Goldeen
Cutie the Nidoran Female
Titan the Dratini
Jerry the Raticate
Stretch the Hitmonlee
NotZapdos the Magnemite
Beaker IV the Pidgey
Precious the Gyarados
Flubber the Grimer
Dozy the Snorlax
Aquos the Lapras
Epona the Ponyta
Plant-Dude the Victreebel

Graveyard:
Buzz Boy the Weedle
Mr. Grumpy the Mankey
Beaker the Pidgey
Batti the Zubat
Burrower the Diglett
Bud the Eevee
Beaker II the Pidgeotto
Sheldon the Wartortle
Beaker III the Pidgeotto
Fluttrella the Butterfree
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:49 PM   #209
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Not one single casualty? Congratulations! Well done!
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:26 PM   #210
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Old 11-24-2010, 11:33 AM   #211
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wow congrats!! even though I've beaten every other elite four, and the preceding champ. I've never beaten the original Kanto elite four in the original or the remakes...of course i was 9 when the first game came out lol. but seriously I didn't even know blue was the champ of that game until I read it the other day. can anyone recommend a good team and good levels to use? I'de really like to go do the sevii island thing >.<
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Old 11-24-2010, 11:51 AM   #212
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I haven't played the remakes, so I don't know, but at least for back in the day, you could pretty much mop up the entire Elite 4 with Starmie.

Starmie has ...
  • great speed, so he'll more than likely outrace the opponent's Pokémon
  • very good special attack, so he'll hit hard
  • two typings, Water and Psychic
    • neither of which is weak to anything the Kanto E4 have
    • both of which prove immensely useful in defeating the Kanto E4 (see moveset below)
  • your choice of ...
    1. Surf, Psychic, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam
    2. Surf, Psychic, Ice Beam, Recover
    3. Surf, Psychic, Thunderbolt, Recover
    4. Surf, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Recover
    Choice A is recommended for the pure Starmie sweep. Choices B-D will require back-up in the form of at least one other Pokémon.

Suppose Moveset A. Here goes ...
  • Lorelei is pure water with no immunities or resistances to Electricity with one exception -- Jynx. So you'll want to Surf Jynx, but Thunderbolt everybody else.
  • Bruno is a mix of fighting and rock. For the rock-types, Surf. For the fighting-types, Psychic. Easy flawless victory.
  • Agatha has pure poison, so you'll want Psychic along for her as well and not just for Bruno. Her Gengar threatens to outrun your Starmie, but if you're a few levels above him, you should be good. Psychic away her entire team.
  • Lance has several Dragonairs and a Dragonite weak to Ice Beam. He's also got a Gyarados and an Aerodactyl weak to Thunderbolt. Should be an easy win given Starmie's stats and the dragons' lack of defenses.
  • Gary, I don't remember what all he has. I remember he leads with a Pidgeot (weak to Thunderbolt) and of course he's got his starter, but that's all I remember.
No clue if FRLG kept the formula the same on the first run through or if they changed it, but I'm guessing they kept the creatures the exact same, even if the movesets are slightly different. And as such, with just a single Starmie, you should be able to clean up nicely.

EDIT: I'm vaguely recalling a Magneton and an Alakazam, but no idea how much of that is influenced by my recent playthrough of HGSS. Starmie can hold his own against Alakazam. Magneton is trickier but, hopefully, you can Surf him into oblivion.

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Old 11-24-2010, 01:00 PM   #213
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Yeah, if you're lucky enough to end up with a Starmie on Nuzlocke you're kinda sorted for the E4.
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cool. I had no idea that one of my favorite water typed was such a boss lol
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You do realise I meant that No-one died at the Elite Four, right?

'Cause I've lost others.

Gary has Pidgeot (Thunderbolt), Rhydon (Surf), Alakazam (Surf bcoz STAB), Arcanine/Charizard (Surf), Exeggcutor/Vensuaur (Ice Beam) and Gyarados/Blastoise (T-Bolt). Theoretically you have a sweep.
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Now, having never done a Nuzlocke myself, I don't remember how all Nuzlocke works. If it prohibits the use of TMs, the only moves on those sets which Starmie can touch are Surf and Recover; and if it bans even the use of HMs in battle, then Recover alone is untouched. Even if Nuzlocke does allow you to use your TMs, you're going to have to be 100% certain that your Starmie will. never. die. before you invest your TMs in him. After all, we're not talking Mega Punch and Bullet Seed here: we're talking Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, and Psychic. To lose your Starmie once you've invested all of these excellent TMs in him would be to lose everything you'd invested hope in.

So, I guess it turns out, Starmie may be too risky for a Nuzlocke run. In order for him to work, he requires too much of your treasure. He's a great Pokémon, but losing him after you've built him up is going to be crippling to any Nuzlocke run. It would perhaps be advisable, then, to construct the following alternate team:
  • electricity: Raichu (fast, naturally learns Thunder, naturally learned Thunderbolt in Yellow so probably knows it in FRLG, too)
  • water: still Starmie, relying on Hydro Pump if Surf is not allowed or HM-taught Surf if it is
  • psychic: Alakazam. Easily raised (go EV train + level up fighting ghosts in Lavender Town), learns all of his psychic moves, including the one and only Psychic, naturally. Also one fast mofo.
  • ice: Articuno if legendaries are allowed; otherwise, probably nobody. And since nobody learns Ice Beam naturally afaik out of the original Kanto 151 other than ice-types, this means you're going to have to rethink Lance. Two of his three can still be handled by Raichu (or other electrics), but the dragon-types will need to be dealt with somehow.

That way, even if you lose Starmie, all you've lost is Surf (which you still have). Losing Raichu doesn't mean losing TM24, nor does losing Alakazam mean losing TM29. They learn their moves naturally, and so if you lose them you've only to go back and capture and re-train another of their species.

I don't care much about the idea of using a legendary since that seems like it defeats the purpose of doing a Nuzlocke, but I'm guessing that legends are banned anyway so it's irrelevant. If you really want to have somebody on the team who uses Ice Beam or Blizzard, you could always try for Jynx. Thing is, as far as I can remember, Jynx isn't exactly the easiest to come by in RBY. Feel free to teach Ice Beam to Starmie still: just keep in mind that if you lose Starmie, you lose TM13 with it.

EDIT: Well, I see that indeed Poke_Hunter did use an Articuno. So I guess they are allowed. Seems a little cheap to me, but whatever: capturing a legendary during a Nuzlocke run hardly seems easy if soft-resetting your game is disallowed.
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  • electricity: Raichu (fast, naturally learns Thunder, naturally learned Thunderbolt in Yellow so probably knows it in FRLG, too)
  • water: still Starmie, relying on Hydro Pump if Surf is not allowed or HM-taught Surf if it is
  • psychic: Alakazam. Easily raised (go EV train + level up fighting ghosts in Lavender Town), learns all of his psychic moves, including the one and only Psychic, naturally. Also one fast mofo.
  • ice: Articuno if legendaries are allowed; otherwise, probably nobody. And since nobody learns Ice Beam naturally afaik out of the original Kanto 151 other than ice-types, this means you're going to have to rethink Lance. Two of his three can still be handled by Raichu (or other electrics), but the dragon-types will need to be dealt with somehow.
The problem is you are allowed to catch the first - and only the first - pokemon you encounter on each route - so trying to plan your team is pointless, as it's down to luck what you end up with in Nuzlocke.

No idea how PH got Articuno unless he spammed repels with a high-level team all through the seafoam islands.
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Almost. Spammed Repel with a Master Ball.

Also:


I was doing the most basic of runs, with the dupe clause enabled, with some minor adjustments:
-Perma-Boxing instead of releasing
-Each bit of the Safari Zone counts as it's own area.
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Starmie shouldn't be TOO impossible. By these definitions, there are tons of water "areas" in the game, most of which afford you some chance at fishing a Staryu out of the water. Then all you've got to do is weaken it, Sleep Powder it, and throw your ball. Only being allowed to purchase one PokéBall per mart, though, is pretty bad. Coupled with the "you MUST attempt to capture the first Pokémon you encounter in a new area" rule, and coupled with the fact that early in the game you will not have enough money to buy infinite repels, it means that you're probably going to waste all of your PokéBalls on the first one or two creatures you're forced into trying to capture and will then have 0 or 1 PokéBall for every other wild creature encounter you have.

Soo ... yeah. The hard-core Nuzlocke rules sound retarded unfun. There's "fun challenge," there's "not so fun challenge," and there's "challenge that will only be worth it if other people care." And sadly, no one will care strongly enough to have made it worth suffering through. That's my view, anyway. Those of you who feel differently, whatever.
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I generally run down as far as "no items except HM's" or the one just before it and leave it there. Never been too hardcore lol.
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[...][*]Agatha has pure poison, so you'll want Psychic along for her as well and not just for Bruno. Her Gengar threatens to outrun your Starmie, but if you're a few levels above him, you should be good. Psychic away her entire team.
Gengar is slower than Starmie. Base 110 vs. 115. And since most in-game enemies don't do anything remotely like EV training, it should not be a threat.
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Gengar is slower than Starmie. Base 110 vs. 115. And since most in-game enemies don't do anything remotely like EV training, it should not be a threat.
This was completely unnecessary. I said he threatens to outrun, not he will outrun. You assume the Starmie is at Gengar's level. I don't. I make no assumptions.
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It was misleading in my eyes. Even with a slight level bonus, it's very easy to outrace most of the E4's Pokemon even with generalized EV spread. But with Nuzlocke, I suppose you might end up with a speed penalizing personality and be f'd over. But like Concept said, Starmie says GG, especially if TMs are being used.
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Really, Starmie is deceptively bulky. That 60/85/85 defensive setup can take a hit or two, and Gengar, counting 3rd gen, is only hitting with SE Shadow Balls from a puny 65 attack. Thunderbolt, on the other hand...but even then, I've seen much worse.

Case in point, my recently failed Touhoumon run, which was full of utter bullshit (Sheer Cold is now an ice-type Hyper Beam) where the E4 demolished my squad of level 60 heroes. My newest run (3 regi and slave Nuzlocke) came into a spot of bother when a level 10 Machop did over 50% to my level 10 Regirock with Low Kick. My Treecko had to hop in and an heroed it.
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