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Old 11-01-2011, 06:00 PM   #151
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Finally, someone said something about Jynx and its horrid appearance! :P

Though as Kuno said, there are almost no awesome Ice-types. Hell, the only Ice-type that really stands out to me is Lapras. Though what Ice-type 4th gen pokemon is good? Abomasnow? Meh. Glaceon? blech. Mamoswine? *holds back vomit*

All generations had their horrid Pokemon. Gen I had the Magnimite Line, Oddish Line, Caterpie line, etc. While Gen V had the Ice cream pokemon and.....uh....just the Ice Cream Pokemon.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:14 PM   #152
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Mamoswine grows on you if you use him competitively. Hella fun to use. But even if you're only coming at this from a design perspective, Mamoswine is still better than either Piloswine (WTF) or Swinub. I thought Piloswine looked pretty stupid myself (*cue Zora rage*), but Mamoswine's a vast improvement and makes me accepting about that species line overall.

Glaceon is really awesome in terms of design. I don't know why it gets so much flak around these parts. Sadly it has a crappy movepool, but that's neither here nor there. Pretty nice stats -- at least it isn't Gens 1-3 Flareon -- and a very charming design make Glaceon one of my top Eeveelutions overall. (Everyone has their own preferences. I'd say that in terms of design alone, it's probably Jolteon >= Glaceon >= Leafeon > Espeon > Flareon > Vaporeon > Umbreon. And I think we all know how that's going to go over with most of you Umbreon-hugging kids. I like Umbreon well enough too. I just ... don't dig those stupid yellow circles. >_> Not a fan of its blood-red eyes either.)

>Oddish line

What. You don't like Vileplume?

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Old 11-01-2011, 06:33 PM   #153
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Mamoswine grows on you if you use him competitively. Hella fun to use. But even if you're only coming at this from a design perspective, Mamoswine is still better than either Piloswine (WTF) or Swinub. I thought Piloswine looked pretty stupid myself (*cue Zora rage*), but Mamoswine's a vast improvement and makes me accepting about that species line overall.

Glaceon is really awesome in terms of design. I don't know why it gets so much flak around these parts. Sadly it has a crappy movepool, but that's neither here nor there. Pretty nice stats -- at least it isn't Gens 1-3 Flareon -- and a very charming design make Glaceon one of my top Eeveelutions overall. (Everyone has their own preferences. I'd say that in terms of design alone, it's probably Jolteon >= Glaceon >= Leafeon > Espeon > Flareon > Vaporeon > Umbreon. And I think we all know how that's going to go over with most of you Umbreon-hugging kids. I like Umbreon well enough too. I just ... don't dig those stupid yellow circles. >_> Not a fan of its blood-red eyes either.)

>Oddish line

What. You don't like Vileplume?

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No, I don't like Vileplume, besides my opinion is more valid than yours,
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:36 PM   #154
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Oh, well when you put it that way ...

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Old 11-01-2011, 08:16 PM   #155
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Though as Kuno said, there are almost no awesome Ice-types.
Huh? There's a bunch of awesome ice types. I said that the gen5 ice types are all bad. I like almost all the ice types except like... Glaceon and the new ones.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:46 PM   #156
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>Oddish line

What. You don't like Vileplume?

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I can actually agree with Talon for once!

Vileplume is wonderful.

Oh right contributing to conversation.

I uh... only really dislike Alomomola and Basculin. But I'm sure if I used them my opinion of them would rise significantly.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:12 PM   #157
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Old 11-02-2011, 08:26 AM   #158
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I uh... only really dislike Alomomola and Basculin. But I'm sure if I used them my opinion of them would rise significantly.
I have to say that I agree with this (hence why neither are on my ASB Gym team). Alomomola is basically Luvdisc and Blissey put in a blender in terms of both looks and moveset, making it a bit of a waste. An Ocean Sunfish could have been much more awesome in Pokémon form.

I liked Basculin when I first saw it, but was left thorougly underwhelmed as soon as the games came out. It's basically Carvanha sans Dark-type and again, could've been much better.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:01 AM   #159
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Meh,


Finally, someone said something about Jynx and its horrid appearance! :P

Though as Kuno said, there are almost no awesome Ice-types. Hell, the only Ice-type that really stands out to me is Lapras. Though what Ice-type 4th gen pokemon is good? Abomasnow? Meh. Glaceon? blech. Mamoswine? *holds back vomit*

All generations had their horrid Pokemon. Gen I had the Magnimite Line, Oddish Line, Caterpie line, etc. While Gen V had the Ice cream pokemon and.....uh....just the Ice Cream Pokemon.
You don't like the Magnemite line? Or Bellossom? Or Butterfree? AND GLACEON!!!

You sir, are wrong. Take it all back, now.

I can honestly say that I like Vannilite, and its evolutions suck. Cryogonal is cool-looking, as well as Beartic. Kyurem.....needs some work.

Amlofmlollmmola looks like a pink puffy bruise, but Basculin is kick-ass looking. A HELL of a lot better looking the Stunfisk.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:33 AM   #160
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A HELL of a lot better looking the Stunfisk.


Stunfisk? DID YOU SAY STUNFISK?
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Nothing looks better than Stunfisk.
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:44 AM   #162
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Nothing looks better than Stunfisk.
Not even Sharpedo? Or Wailord?
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:01 PM   #163
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>Oddish line

What. You don't like Vileplume?

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Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading the rest of your post.
Sigged for win.

Now, back on topic.
Whoops, made a mistake. You're right, they're frowning, not smiling. The main point I was trying to make is that they're not crying.

Obligatory remark about Umbreon's rings making sense when you know what an Umb is go here (It's a yellow circle around the moon, for those who don't know. Sailors say that when you see it, you count how many stars are inside it, and that's how many days until a storm hits).

This whole page can be summed up as 'Everyone has wildly different tastes and opinions'. There would be a lot less flaming if people started putting 'imop' at the end of their posts and realized not everyone shares their views. With that done...

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Old 11-02-2011, 12:36 PM   #164
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The problem with justifying a character design -- particularly an older character design like a Gen 2 creature's -- with their English name is that the creators/designers of the Pokémon had NO knowledge nor concern for what this creature was going to be called in English. "Umbreon" is so named for umbr- "shadow," not for umb "obscure European sailor term I doubt anyone at NoA knew or cared about." But its Japanese name of Blackie has nothing to do with either shadows or sailor terminology: it refers, clearly, to the dark which Dark-types are supposedly associated with.

This point is actually very relevant in deconstructing a number of English fanbase misconceptions or misunderstandings. "Why does Wobbuffet always pop out of his Pokéball?" "Because he's saying 'That's right!' and his timing makes it funny." "Why doesn't Waterfall make a waterfall the way Surf makes a tidal wave?" "Because the move is called 'go up a waterfall,' not 'Waterfall'." "Why does Swift always make stars?" "Because its name is 'Speed Star'." So on and so forth. Before making a theory about why some Pokemon or some move is the way that it is, always, always, always consider the original name first.

Not sure why that's sig material, but w/e. ^^; I love Vileplume. With GSC I had my "Bellossum is better" phase but I snapped out of that by Gen 3.
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Ah, that's true. Forgot about that. But I still think that GF gave them the circles due to the existance of the Umb- they seem to know quite a few more obscure facts than people give them credit for.
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Old 11-02-2011, 01:40 PM   #166
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No, no, you've got it all wrong. I HATE Stunfisk. It's probably the only Pokemon I HATE.
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Old 11-02-2011, 01:47 PM   #167
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No, no, you've got it all wrong. I HATE Stunfisk. It's probably the only Pokemon I HATE.
You still get a brofist for only hating one pokemon.
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Old 11-02-2011, 03:59 PM   #168
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My least favorite Pokemon has to be Bibarel. Its face is so...ugh. Don't really hate any Gen V, except Sigilyph and Swoobat.
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My least favorite Pokemon has to be Bibarel. Its face is so...ugh. Don't really hate any Gen V, except Sigilyph and Swoobat.
Swoobat was bad, but Sigilyph is pretty cool in my opinion.

A horrible Pokemon: Magmar line. Other than Magby.
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But Bibarel is a Bibarel! How can you hate it? It's Bibarel!
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:48 PM   #171
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Vileplume Vileplume sez: Don't be hatin'.

I keep wanting to post in this thread to say that I don't hate any Pokemon, but then realize that feeling raging apathy at worst towards any Pokemon just doesn't make for terribly spirited discussion. tungsten

(PS: I would sorta like Chingling if it didn't seem like a thoroughly unnecessary baby 'mon (someone feel free to prove me wrong on this, because something feels wrong here), I constantly forget about the existence of something called "Dialga" and Reshiram is very mildly overdesigned. Lose a couple feather-spikes, pal.)
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I keep wanting to post in this thread to say that I don't hate any Pokemon, but then realize that feeling raging apathy at worst towards any Pokemon just doesn't make for terribly spirited discussion. tungsten

(PS: I would sorta like Chingling if it didn't seem like a thoroughly unnecessary baby 'mon (someone feel free to prove me wrong on this, because something feels wrong here), I constantly forget about the existence of something called "Dialga" and Reshiram is very mildly overdesigned. Lose a couple feather-spikes, pal.)
So you're a fan of Space Penis then?
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No, but my memecatching tendencies mean I forget about it a bit less often than Dialga. [/seriousanswer]

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I seem to have a similar problem with Solrock and Lunatone--I frequently forget the latter exists but happen to like the former.

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Old 11-03-2011, 03:14 AM   #174
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I must say I quite hate Pikachu. Its design isn't aesthetically pleasing to me, its movepool is not very good, and it has this undeserved fame to the point where it seems everybody loves it.

Otherwise, I don't like Goldeen (but Seaking is nice), I rather dislike Probopass, and Watchog annoys me to high hell. I dislike Gyarados' popularity, but not him in general. Regigigas sucked as a trio master to the Regis who are, in my opinion, fairly epic. I dislike Froslass only in comparison to Glalie, because I love Glalie.

Of course, I actually like the ice cream, Paras, Tangela, and Nosepass, so take my opinion with a line of salt.
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I actually used to hate Pikachu too, as it's all non-pokemon players ever talked about.


Then I saw it's Platinum Sprite, played Pokepark, and few other things which made me realize how cute it is.
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