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The writers had Ash meet someone I never thought they'd have him meet. I mean ... that event alone ranks right on up there with your cynical point about how Ash is never going to win an Indigo League tournament. I put this event right up there with that one ... and yet they went and did it anyway. Completely blew away all of my cynical expectations about never living to see the day they'd do that. But yes, at the end of the day, you have to know what you're getting in to. Pokémon is a show for ages 4 to 10, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. If you can accept that, then it's a pretty decent nostalgia trip, especially if you have others your own age and maturity level to discuss it with. It's also great practice for anyone who wants to see how far their Japanese has come along. I admit that's a rather niche motivation for watching, but it likely applies to quite a few people here. Quote:
While the chances are less than 8,472,566:1, I sure would love it if Gen 6 were when they did decide to take the plunge into Ash-less territory and gave us a fresh protagonist and a properly written story with beginning, middle, and end. No way in Hell is it going to happen , but it sure would be great if Gen 6 were when they decided to try it out. Really, really digging the Gen 6 female protagonist. Would love to watch a series where she's the star. Sadly, she'll probably wind up as Ash's traveling buddy. And sadly, they'll probably fuck up her hair and eye color somehow like they did with Cynthia. -_-;
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06-21-2013, 02:56 PM | #78 |
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Also MACH PUNCH OHKO'D NINJASK WTF?
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I think you've assumed that I'm defending the very rules they chose to behold themselves to. I'm not. All I'm saying is that given the rules they've beholden themselves to, what they delivered is better than what you're asking them to have offered instead. You want them to open up straight away with an attack that the target is 2x or 4x weak to. They want to build some suspense by starting with weaker attacks before showcasing the failure of the heavy guns. They're trying to build suspense, and honestly they've done a decent enough job of it given the rules they're beholden to. Your suggestion would produce an even stupider outcome given the rules of their universe.
But no, I quite agree that it's silly in the first place to have downgraded us from Kanto's infinite move pools to the video games' four-move limited movepools. Never mind that there are things Langley could have opted for besides direct attacks head on.
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Now, this sad, the use of Hidden Power and Focus Blast does prolong the battle, which you sort of alluded to. And one could argue that using Focus Blast causes 10 year olds to excitedly call out "no use an Ice move!" as if their lives depended on it. So there's that. But no, the real point is that no, animé trainers are all idiots and this is saddening. Especially Ash. Ash is just... just so... bad. |
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I'm not seeing how it would be useful seeing how it's not correct. When was the last time you watched? They do upgrade the movesets over time, sure, but for the most part the movesets are set in stone and when changes do occur the writers only swap out one move at a time. Dragonite's moveset, for example, has been the same four moves ever since we met him last year: Flamethrower, ThunderPunch, Ice Beam, and Dragon Rush. Charizard's Unova moveset is already known to be just the four moves of Wing Attack, Slash, Dragon Tail, and Flamethrower. Oshawott's moveset is just Tackle, Razor Shell, Aqua Jet, and Hydro Pump. Pikachu's moveset is just Thunderbolt, Electro Ball, Quick Attack, and Iron Tail. On and on the list of examples could go, but the point is, movesets are pretty locked in and don't wildly fluctuate from episode to episode as you seem to imply that they do, as if the writers are not beholden to the limitation and can just make up any four moves they like each episode so long as they keep themselves to just four. Nooooooo ... they pretty much stick to an agreed-upon moveset for each creature. ^_^; And this is true for the side characters' Pokémon too. Yes, they absolutely show off one or two new moves learned since the last time we saw them, but no, they don't get an entirely new set of moves and no, it's not that common for everyone to get two new moves either. It's usually either one or zero. An entire point was made around this -- we knew Kenyan's Sawk's three moves for the longest time but his fourth was kept a mystery right on up to the Don Tournament he won. And in the time since then, he's only learned one new move (Karate Chop, replacing Double Kick).
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Characters who are in every episode? Yeah, by and large, they're pretty consistent. But that's rather far beside the point ^^. |
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Dude, you're talking now on the order of half-decades. I'm talking on the order of individual series. You've moved the goalposts so far out now it's rather embarrassing for you.
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No, Talon. I added additional characters to supplement the point. Ash, Misty and Brock, also Gary in addition to when he was more regular. But I have also given you examples of regular people and I'm sure you can find others on your own back. You are rude and you are not particularly self aware.
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06-21-2013, 03:58 PM | #85 |
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Girls, girls, you're both pretty!
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The anime is pretty notorious for writing battles simply to suit the plot and take ridiculous liberties in doing so (e.g. Sceptile beating Tropius with only Grass attacks) and that battle was a pretty good example. It's so ridiculously unfaithful to the game's mechanics, let alone any system we have, that it's hardly Pokémon anymore. |
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I think I'm less het up about it than you, Jeri, and I do agree with Talon that a battle revolving essentially around Dragonite taking five Ice Beams to the face being a little lame. I get more annoyed when Ash does stuff like use terrible pokémon in Gym matches and not train his pokémon to use decent or varied attacks. Which is less important, in some ways, but my personal grievance. Why, if Buizel was supposed to be so bloody powerful, did he not teach it to use something other than fucking Sonicboom? Why does Snivy, arch defender of the universe, still have bloody Vine Whip? It's just annoying to me. particularly as the writers have seemingly gotten bored of doing it with everything so we have some of his pokémon now using a plethora of varied moves. Krookodile isn't to my tastes but at least they're giving him moves. Palpitoad is a pointless character but at least it can do stuff.
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I am incredibly surprised by this surprising surprise.
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I don't consider this a spoiler at all. We all knew it was going to happen. What I would give for a fucking time skip at the very least. Interesting to note, he's wearing Red's hat. |
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I was talking to AK2 earlier today on the phone, and he was telling me some of the basic plot elements of the Summer 2013 Pokémon movie that just came out this last week. Kuno ... you might want to look away.
Spoiler: show
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Getting married! :D
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Internet residents in being disgusting human beings shocker.
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