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Wow.
More comments after lunch. For now, I wanted to let you guys know ... Don't get the current Mazui sub. It isn't the subtitling that's the problem, it's the video. When I watched the movie last night (first half) and this morning (second half), it looked beautiful to me. Perfectly crisp. No jaggies, no fuzzies, no nothing. But when I took a look at my screencaps, I saw serious visual degradation. And when I opened the video file up in other video players besides my default, it looked pretty bad in them too. Stuttered a whole bunch as well. I don't know what the cause of the discrepancy is, but I would trust to Mazui's proclamation at this time -- that the video they've released has sub-par video quality -- and I'd encourage you all to wait just a little bit longer if you can for a better video source to come along. Something funky is going on and it's probably got something to do with how the video (either the original raw or else the subbed raw) was encoded. 'Cause there's no other way to explain how it could look beautiful in some players but ugly in others. (For the record, it looks pretty in VLC and terrible in SMPlayer.) If you absolutely cannot wait, then I would say now is the time to act: because seeds are sure to be sky-high right now and they're going to topple off into oblivion in just a short matter of days. So either get it now, or don't get it at all. Either way, you'll want to get the better one if/when it comes. Okay. More after lunch. EDIT: I checked Mazui's site before shutting down. Turns out they have an 850-megabyte AVI for those of EDIT2: Oh yeah. Mazui's translation gets, as far as I can tell, my stamp of approval. While casually listening (i.e. enjoying the film, not particularly listening for errors), I didn't catch one single mistranslation.
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So does that mean you finished watching the whole movie?
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Yeah, I did. In the next four posts, I'll share some of my opinions about the story. Some of them are incomplete but feel free to reply to them now and I'll try to build on them later in replying to you guys.
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It's been hinted in the later books that a Slider, the one type of anomalous being Haruhi hadn't roped into her SOS Brigade, will be joining the cast. The very existence of Sliders precludes Adult Mikuru's entire existence and purpose. The logic behind Adult Mikuru's world is that history is an ever-changing series of random variables with a sequence of dependence, and random variables can be generated at any time. If too much of the wrong set gets generated at once, Adult Mikuru's future ceases to exist. If it didn't, there would be no reason to preserve the timeline - since history would have been set in stone, her future exists and phases into an alternate reality. Since alternate realities can't exist, the very existence of a Slider, one who can enter alternate possibilities/parallel realities, adds a major contradiction to the story. My idea is it's possible that the physical laws apply differently to all four group sets (The Organization, time travelers, IDSE, the sliders), which would be possible under Haruhi. In TYPE-MOON works, for example, each planet has different core of metaphysical laws. The only way they can battle one another is on overlapping concepts. For example, the Aristoles can't be "killed" by humans because they don't know what death is. But they can be "destroyed". Quote:
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Omniscience, by definition, means that you have amongst other pieces of knowledge the knowledge necessary to successfully make yourself omnipotent. If you don't know how to make yourself omnipotent, then you're not omniscient. "I know how to do everything but...." is something non-omniscient beings say.
EDIT: As for the slider issue, we've already seen sliders: the Nordic warriors in the student festival. Also, Kyon seems to be the perennial red herring slider. Spoiler: show
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I really hate to debate time travel... And it's been a while since I've read the novels myself. I'll get back to your concerns after I watch the movie to refresh my memory of how the alternate world came into being. As soon as a DDL of the XviD gets posted, I'll start pestering my friend to get it for me.
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Well, it's tough debating time travel even for a finished product like the Back to the Future franchise, never mind an incomplete product like the Haruhi franchise. Doppel and I have different opinions on the possibility (or impossibility) of time travel in the real world as well as the specifics behind our reasoning. It makes one man's A++ story with time travel the other man's B+ or A- story.
But I still feel like it's possible for us to explain our satisfaction or dissatisfaction with how a particular story deals with time travel, especially if we very clearly explain what it was we took issue with. In my case here, I just fear that Tanigawa is creating a universe which will ultimately have an impossible history. In other words, he's going to tell us that Kyon went on adventures A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and H and that he had to overcome obstacles 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 to do it; and that it's going to be painfully obvious in hindsight that if obstacle 6 existed from the very beginning of the story then adventure C couldn't have possibly ended the way it did. This problem almost never affects writers who completely think out their plots before writing. So if Tanigawa is one of those writers and he already knew how he wanted Books 1-10 to go, then great, we've got nothing to worry about. But if Tanigawa created this universe with only Book 1 in mind originally, and if Books 2, 3, 4, and 5 were afterthoughts which came to him later, and if Books 6, 7, and 8 were yet further afterthoughts, and if Book 9 was in a fourth category of how early Tanigawa had thought about it, then I fear that the prospects for the franchise look a little bleak. Then again: I've only seen Books 1-4 on television. I haven't seen any of Books 5-9, and I think all of the rest of you say that you have. So I'm the only one left who's talking in ignorance of a good chunk of the franchise. And so it's possible that you guys know that my fears are unfounded but that you just can't tell me why because you don't want to spoiler me (you nice guys you ).
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My favorite portion of the movie was:
Spoiler: show Also, watching the movie at a theater room at Comic Con was definitely a grand experience that can't be captured by watching the movie by yourself in your room on your computer or DVD player. Even though I had a shitty seat and had to stretch my neck just to watch, you really feel the group emotion when great moments happen. |
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Someone's uploaded Mazui's 1080i sub to Youtube. Doubtless, it'll be taken down within the next 24 hours. But just in case, I figure I may as well link you to it now so you can maybe get a chance to watch the film sooner rather than later, lilblue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zyfEcXLRQ8
Also, here's the link to the specific part of the movie Loki and I talked about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeS_bGkheP8#t=10m55s I'd recommend watching it in the context of the entire film, but if you absolute cannot wait and want to see the specific scene, then there's the link. Pretty sad. DOPPEL, WTF. Spoiler tags, man. Fucking A.
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Huh?
Excuse me. I only used Book IX because it's the most recent book, I don't mean to imply there are Yuki x Kyon moments in it. I don't remember. I'm just saying that Book IV isn't the end of Yuki's story, so if you want to ship Yuki x Kyon Book IV is not definitive confirmation that such a pairing is never going to be.
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Though he'll never openly admit it, what Kyon treasures above all else are the friends he's made, and the crazy experiences he gets to share with all of them. I don't think he'd jeapordize that group harmony for the sake of romance, which is likely part of the reason he's reluctant to make a real move towards anyone. Edit- Thanks for the links, though I promised I would watch the entire film with my friend. (Plus I can't see much by myself on dial-up.) If it's still up tomorrow, I'll contact her and see if we can't arrange a meeting soon. Though I'd still prefer to wait for an XViD DDL.
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Doppel: Unless I read your spoilers wrong, you basically told me that in Book IX, these two things go down:
Spoiler: show Two HUGE spoilers for someone who's been repeatedly yammering about how he only knows what happens in Books 1-4. C'mon, man!
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Spoiler: show But yes, there's a humorous moment right there in the film, no doubt lifted straight from the pages of the book, where Kyon tells the reader/listener exactly what he thinks of anybody who would have made the opposite choice.
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Not that you've told me this, I wish the film could've depicted the whole gang on the other side instead of just Haruhi. Meh, artistic license wins, I guess.
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I have to admit the whole Kyon/Yuki thing has always been possible since the day she saved him from blue haired knife girl I can't bother trying to spell her name and he said, "I'm not a glasses man," (not the exactly quote).
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Remember, I don't recall anything specific about Book IX, and I'm not sure if I can even trust the non-specific. I was just using it because Book IX is the most recent release, so "somewhere between Books V and IX, there is more Kyon x Yuki interaction". Book IV changed Kyon's perception of Yuki forever, and that influence is felt down the line.
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The next novel release date has been announced: May 25, 2011.
...And I hear it's going to be two books: "Before" and "After".
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