03-05-2012, 10:47 AM | #51 |
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Oh my god blaze. No. CFC layers eat up(that is, react with the ozone in) the ozone layer causing ozone depletion. It has nothing to do with the greenhouse effect but everything to do with global warming.
Edit: It is ALSO a greenhouse gas but the main thing is the ozone layer which is harder to replace and has immediate consequences.
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1. They do have something to gain: Grants from government, lots of money for supplying the "public" with the "correct" answers. 2. Government has MUCH to gain from Global Warming: Excuses to tax more, excuses to limit freedom, excuses to expand their control, excuses to set up organizations that then cycle back to keep them elected/in power. Power. Money. Those are always the reasons for deception. 3. Reputable scientists jumped on the bandwagon prematurely, and now stand to lose A LOT of credibility and respect (and grants) if they change their minds, or find evidence against their previous claims. That's pressure enough for most to keep silent even if they know the truth and disagree with the lie. 4. Other reputable scientists make contrary claims, but, being in the minority, have a smaller voice, and also stand to be harassed by those on the bandwagon, trying to protect their own pride. 5. The scientific studies of the "Reputable Scientists" have been reviewed and revised by government no less then 3 times. With a party having such a vested interest in keeping a lie alive (Government), it would be foolhardy to assume the text has not been altered, as well it has been, and altered to promote Global Warming where no such promotion originally existed in the reputable scientists' assessments. Quote:
Furthermore, it's a perfect opportunity to fund research for space colonization, as if such a "disaster" as Global Warming were to occur, the ability to live in space and on other planets would allow the human race to survive, and maybe even prosper, throughout the disaster period both on Earth and in other places. Instead of wasting money trying to inhibit growth and roll back technology developments (as the government is currently doing to combat "Global Warming,") use that money to promote stronger growth and better technological developments. Face the future head-on, instead of trying to run from it. Quote:
Yeah the Earth goes through periodic and natural Climate fluctuations. But that's all they are, is natural fluctuations. The only solid "proof" I've seen in favor of Global Warming, is the correlation between Temperatures and CO2 content in the air as evidenced by Ice Core Samples. But, as I say time and time again (which apparently no one listens to) "Correlation does not necessitate Causation", and when you look at the real data, the CO2 spikes actually lag behind the temperature spikes, suggesting rather its really the other way around (Temperature increases cause an increase in CO2 in the air). Quote:
Considering there was a drastic "Cool Down" Period during the 1980s or so, that caused just as much hysteria as current Global Warming is now, added to the fact that, despite drastic increases in CO2 emissions, temperatures seem to be evening out, instead of rising drastically like they ought if Fossil Fuels were the cause, I feel quite secure in my assertion that manmade Global Warming is a hoax. Besides that, the concerted efforts against American liberties by government (often under the name of "saving the planet from global warming"), the numerous Global Warming research grants offered, as well as the government's revisions made to the scientific studies on Climate Change from the "Central Authority" on manmade Global Warming. It's hard for me to even consider the possibility Global Warming could exist. Here's a few absurd slogans (most I made up myself) that detail my sentiments on this matter: Spoiler: show If you want to see irrefutable logical argument against manmade Global Warming, check my Signature spoiler, the bottom link about Global Warming. Should convert anyone who doesn't stuff their head in the sand. Every freedom we lose in efforts to prevent global warming, is a freedom we will never get back after the "crisis" comes to an end, regardless of that end. Last edited by unownmew; 03-05-2012 at 01:34 PM. |
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[QUOTE=unownmew;328990]No, those governments hated us already, they just have more excuses for it now. Also, the strict "Rules of Engagement" severely limit our military's effectiveness in eradicating Al Qaeda. Beyond that, the additional recruits are just proof we need to fully eradicate Al Qaeda, not just kill a few of their leaders and then make peace, but to Utterly Destroy them, so they will no longer be a thorn in our side, and to send a message to any other potential threats, "the same will happen to you, should you choose to be a threat to America."
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a.) bribing scientists b.) running a country c.) losing money on supposedly more efficient (by your claims) fossil fuels and now they are altering the text so they can...what? Gain power over the American people? Learn2Democracy. Quote:
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This thread is already making me sad, don't make me have to step in and explain basic climatology to y'all.
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I'm not one for conspiracies, but I don't know what to think of this and it freaks me out (although it's likely fake, it's a very good fake). For what the subject matter is, look at the video in my 'Election Fraud' thread.
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Whether such conversations are real or not, I very much doubt that such an audio recording is real. Whether the conspiracy is real or not, people are thoroughly checked before they're allowed to privately talk with the President. And if the conspiracy is real, then you can be especially certain that such conversations are not going to be taking place somewhere where a bugged recorder can operate. Or that he would casually discuss this with someone unless they were guaranteed not to rat him out. Your #1 question should be why something like this has shown up on YouTube of all places and not first, say, international news outlets (including state media in rival nations), why it only has less than 2,000 views right now, etc. There's no fucking way (no offense ) that we would be among the first 2,000 people to discover this if it were real. A fun little joke thing that conspiracy nuts will go crazy over for generations, but ultimately I doubt it's anything more.
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I know, I thought that too, I mostly just posted it here to get opinions (mainly yours) and I got it.
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Fast And Furious Scandal
-2006: President Bush approves Operation "Wide Receiver." -2007: President Bush ends Operation "Wide Receiver" in failure. -2009: Operation Fast and Furious is started, under President Obama's Administration -March 27, 2011: President Obama tells Univision, a Spanish language network, that neither he nor Attorney General Eric Holder knew of or approved Fast and Furious. -Oct. 3, 2011: CBS News reports on Justice Department memos to Holder mentioning Fast and Furious as early as July 2010. -Oct. 7, 2011: Holder sends a letter to Congress explaining that he never saw the memos mentioning Fast and Furious, and that top Justice Department officials who were briefed on the case didn't know about the controversial "gunwalking" tactics being used. -Nov. 8, 2011: Attorney General Holder testifies at Senate Judiciary hearing and admits to Congress for the first time that gunwalking happened in Fast and Furious. He also tells Senators that his agency's initial letter to Congress denying gunwalking last February was "inaccurate." -December 7, 2011: Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation "Fast and Furious" to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales. -June 19, 2012: Attorney General Eric Holder asks President Obama to exert executive privilege over documents pertaining to the Justice Department’s botched “Fast and Furious” gun running operation. -June 20, 2012: President Obama Grants Eric Holder's request. -June 20, 2012: The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform recommends that the House of Representatives hold Attorney General Eric Holder in Contempt of Congress for failing to provide documents subpoenaed by congress regarding Fast and Furious. Problem: Executive Privilege can Only be exerted if the documents directly affect the White House. What are they hiding? Details: Wide Receiver -Ran 2006-2007 Bush Administration -Mexican Authorities were notified and engaged with the operation -RFID chips and aerial surveillance were used to track guns sold -400 Guns lost Details: Fast and Furious -Started in 2009 Obama Administration -Mexican authorities left in the dark about the program -Guns were Not tracked -2000 guns walked; 1400 lost, 700 found at crime scenes or in Mexico Holder: Need to "brainwash people about guns" Very suspicious.... |
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You know what, um, I agree on one point. I think that the anti-smoking propaganda is too much and would hate for that to even start happening to guns. Although, of course, in some ways, it has. That is, unfortunate.
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06-27-2012, 02:17 AM | #63 |
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There can never be too much propaganda about something that harms not just you but everyone around you, literally, and has absolutely and utterly zero positive effects outside of a brief relaxation.
I do agree with the guns thing though. That's something that's going to be available in the black market if shutting them down is the only thing the police force ever does. Much simpler to simply keep it as it is.
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Though on guns, I do believe that if you gave everyone a gun, you'd be less inclined to rob/rape/whatever them, since they could retaliate quite easily. And you might end up dead, which would suck. So yeah, there's my two cents in debate for... a while.
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06-27-2012, 03:51 AM | #65 |
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Actually, it is impossible to shoot someone if they charge at you with a knife at eighteen feet or less. And that is with prior warning.
Guns are not foolproof.
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And also, you mean impossible for the average layman.
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