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Old 04-29-2007, 01:11 PM   #76
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

USB Adapter works for me, so now I have Pokemon on the internets!

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Trainer name is Maya since I like giving different names to my Pokemon games.

And yeah, Defog sucks. I just used a filler slot on my Empoleon, which I'll erase as soon as story mode is over. Now to figure out who gets Rock Smash since I don't want to go through Victory Road with an HM slave instead of a battler missing out on some experience. At least Waterfall will be useful on my Floatzel and Rock Climb and Strength have decent power.

I just finished raiding Team Galactic's base. Dunno if I'll go on with the story or continue sidequesting right now.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:15 PM   #77
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I was hoping that they would bump Rock Smash up to at least 60 power. Shame that they didn't.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:31 PM   #78
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I captured a modest azelf and named him Mesjid (mosque in bahasa indonesian.) Now I am ev training him, and he has 27 special attack evs atm.
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:23 AM   #79
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I tried catching Uxie and Azelf but no success. I'm kinda out of practice in catching legends anyways; the only one I snagged in Emerald was Groudon since I didn't feel like going after the legends and then I forgot. ^^;; I'll at least go back for Kyogre and the Regis.

I'mma go ahead and beat up the 8th gym, or at least train for it. Thank goodness for wild Pokemon that are around the same level as my team. (I have a feeling that this time around, Victory Road will have wild pokes that provide sufficient exp for leveling for the E4.)
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:00 PM   #80
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I've logged something between 90 minutes and 2 hours. I have a Level 13 Turtwig and a Level 11 Shinx. Pretty disappointed with the graphics and with how many trainers there are who have only got one Level 4 creature (ugh @_@), but the story seems interesting enough, the Pokétch is INCREDIBLE (hooray for the clock feature! double hooray for the pedometer for us breeders!), and my Turtwig has a Mild Personality, making his Defense pretty much the same as his Special Defense and his Special Attack almost as good as his Attack. (So far, anyway.) Perfect for the in-game story mode where he's being incorrectly effort-trained, anyway.

I can't get a Friend Code yet -- apparently I have to go on to NWC to get it. That won't happen any sooner than Friday night. So, until then, I have some time to take two finals, write one paper, and play a lot of Pokemon.
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:45 PM   #81
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I finished ev training my azelf! 252 special attack, 252 speed, and 6 in special defense. Now onward to the final town, captured a baby garchomp, ev train him , and then kill the elite four!
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Old 05-01-2007, 05:49 PM   #82
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

Crap, I just found out today that my Luxio (Level 15) is Calm, which means that I've wasted so much of the opening experience points of the game not just on an effort-mistrained creature, but on an effort-mistrained creature *AND* a creature that is supposed to have a final base attack of 120 but is now going to have a base attack of 108. Ugh. :x

The good news is, the Onix I caught (which took FOREVER to catch, too!) turns out to be a Rock Head, so I don't have to worry about trading him for something else. I look forward to having a (even if misproperly-EV-trained) Steelix on my team for the first round of online battles this month. Should be a nice defensive deterrent to those of you planning to barrel on through with attack sweepers. Especially now that Crunch derives from the Attack stat and Steelix can also learn Thunder Fang, Ice Fang, and Fire Fang to complement Rock Edge, Iron Tail, and Double Edge. Lots of moves to choose from, even if Steelix ought not to be used as a tank. ^_^;

So .... *sigh* ... time to deposit this Luxio, run back, capture a Level 4 or so Starly, and make sure he's got a personality which either promotes Attack at the expense of Def/SpDef/HP or one which promotes Speed at the expense of Def/SpDef/HP.
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:39 PM   #83
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

yah ha, I guess I had to re-register with the forums.

So here is my Pearl infos

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I added everyone who posted their FC on the thread so far I think, so lets battle some time.
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:13 PM   #84
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I just caught Uxie (finally!). Most tedious Pokemon I've ever tried to catch. I (don't) look forward to Azelf; if it wasn't required for the National Dex, I probably wouldn't bother. D: (Normally I'd kill it and get it over with, but since it's a unique Pokemon, I'd never forgive myself for not catching it. >_>) Otherwise, as soon as my berries near Sunyshore City grow, I'll be off to Victory Road.

Good luck on the Starly, Talon. I love my Staraptor since she kills almost everything in sight. I've always had a soft spot for the starting route birds, and I'm glad to see that one is finally a monster in combat.
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:34 PM   #85
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I need the Starly more than ever now. I caught a Misdreavus after spending a total of 11 Pokeballs and 1 Great Ball on her and one other female Misdreavus that ended up getting KO'ed. So much money wasted. And for what? A Jolly Misdreavus. F*U*R*K. :x You mean to tell me, I waste all that money and time, and I get the shittiest possible nature for a Misdreavus?

I've logged just a little over 7 hours.
- Grotle @ Level 26
- Onix @ Level 21
- (Bidoof the Cut Whore)

That's my team. My team of two. (Bidoof does not count.) I'm getting ready to hit up Cycling Road, and I'm hoping to find Route 209 soon so that I can catchy myself a Starly and get to raising it. Really hoping I can find one that's Adamant or Jolly, but knowing my luck so far ... -_-;

I'd also like to get a Gyarados going, now that I finally have Experience Share. Go catch a Magikarp soon and throw Exp. Share on that boy. Problem is ... he needs to be Adamant or Jolly, too.

So basically, I'm asking God to let me win the lottery ... twice. And then I'm going to set those winning lotto tickets on fire when I raise these bad buys improperly since I'm still main-gaming things.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:06 AM   #86
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Wow, money doesn't even matter until you get to the casino. Plus, when you start needing to buy stuff, you can whore the E4 with Amulet Coin and get instant cash. I just stock up on Pokeballs ingame, carrying about 30 at a time. xd

Ah, Talon, just to let ya know, each pokemon has a different catch rate. More rare the pokemon is, the harder its catch rate is, so Magikarp can easily be caught by a Pokeball at full health, but stuff like Steelix would need a couple of tries. To my understanding, Misdreavus isn't that common, so it should be a bit difficult to catch.

Watching a blank ds all day is quite irritating. I need to find a Diamond fast. >>
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

Well, Azelf wasn't so bad. Snagged him on my second try with a little patience while Empoleon and Dialga walled against the Confusion and Uproar attacks. Looks like I'm set to get the National Dex once I beat the E4.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:45 AM   #88
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

A question for all you expert breeders out there! Let's say I wanna breed my level 53 staraptor (He has brave bird, return, close combat, and agility) with a female starly. Will the baby starly inherit the father (staraptor) moves? Also can you breed tms onto pokemon let's say if I breed my penguin with a water type that learns grass knot, will that pokemon that hatches from the egg already have it (penguin is male.)
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:06 AM   #89
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

Babies always take the Moves that male has (sometimes both mum and dad need the move like Spore on a baby Shroomish) So the baby starley Should take the moves that the father has, the baby will always be the mother.

and TM's Can be bred over, if the Baby poke has it any of it's movesets then it'll inherit the TM move it's a nice way of geting Muliple TM's of onem ove jsut get a nice breeding line gonig on and you've got infinate TM's
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:54 PM   #90
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

Arn's answer needs a little more meat to it. First of all, not every move the father has can be inherited. The mother's species has to be able to learn the move naturally or via TM. Second of all, not every baby can inherit four moves. Most babies inherit 2 or 3, a few inherit 4, and some inherit 1 or even no moves. It depends on the species. I don't know much about Staraptor, but if I had to guess, I'd say that you could probably get 2 or 3 of his moves onto Starly babies. Only one way to find out.

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Here's a question for those of you who have good experience with EVs, IVs, and general "stats." I captured several Machop west of the Contest Hall City just now, and two of them look sort of good. However, here's the catch: the Pokemon with the Naive personality has as good an attack as the Pokemon with the Adamant personality. So, do I ...
a) throw away the Adamant Machop because his base stat for attack must really suck!, or do I
b) throw away the Naive Machop because you want an Adamant Machop (dur) and this little guy's attack will outrace the Naive Machop's pretty quickly

I don't really know how natures work, per se. Do they give a 1.1x bonus to a stat that is visible upon capture? Or do they promote 1.1x growth of the stat as the creature levels up, i.e. it's not noticeable that his nature is helping out his stats until he begins to get to Level 40 or 50 or so. Which one is it?

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And here's a second Machop-related question: he can have one of two abilities, Guts or No Guard. Guts says "increases attack if status is afflicted", which makes it sound like his attack will be boosted if he's poisoned, paralyzed, or burned. (Sleep and Frozen status not really mattering, obviously.) No Guard says "Makes it so that his and the foe's moves always hit." Here is my question ...
1) Which do you think is better? (Justify.)
2) Does No Guard mean that, even if the opponent uses tons of Double Teams, I will always hit? (i.e. does it make my accuracy 100% and make the foe's evasion 0%?) Or does it only affect my accuracy, and has no bearing on the foe's evasion? (i.e. if the foe uses DT, then I might miss because it's his evasion, not my accuracy, that got changed)

If No Guard means that DT is worthless, then I think that would be better. But if it only means that his accuracy is 100%, well, Machop doesn't learn too many moves with shitty accuracies (or rather, he has the ability to learn many good moves with 100% accuracy), so I think Guts might be better since No Guard also helps the enemy out (and that's never a good thing ) and it also provides me with a reward if the opponent thinks he's going to be cheeky and burn me in order to lower my attack ("Oh? I have burn status? Oh no, whatever will I do? .... PSYCH! :P I have Guts! Your burn just got NULLIFIED, bitch!").

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SI, the baby will always be of the Mother species, unless its breeding with ditto, then the not-ditto pokemon will be in the egg. TMs and Moves are inherited from the Male side only, while natures are from the Mother's side with Everstone.

Talon, they both suck. Release all your machops if they are the best. Go catch more unless you can breed or don't care about stats.

Just to let you know, Base stats are just the numbers that indicate its BASE. It doesn't change AT ALL.

The numbers you see on a pokemon are the actual stats, which are affected by IV's, EV's, and Nature. Nature will raise the actual stat by 10%. So, if my Cranidos has 40 Atk, then with a Adamant Nature, itll have 44 attack. As your actual stat goes up, the boost gets higher, naturally. So if a ATK+ nature is the same as a ATK neutral nature, than the ATK+ nature's Machop has very sucky IVs.

IV's can't change and the only thing that affects the growth of the stat is EV's. So, they both suck pretty bad. Machamp needs SPDEF pretty badly and Speed isn't needed, so Naive nature sucks on him, while that Adamant has crappy IV's. My conclusion: Go get a new Adamant Machop.

Guts and No Guard is a hard to choose between because Guts gets a boost of 50% to ATK for ANY status it takes, even Sleep, Paralyze, and Frozen. Sleep can be abused with Sleep Talk, fyi.

DT is actually banned in Competitive battling because it is noob and depends on Luck. No Guard only ups your accuracies to 100%, so opponent isn't affected. And, Machamp can abuse a 100% accurate Stone Edge, Cross Chop, and Dynamic Punch which hurt pretty badly.

I prefer No Guard because I enjoy the STAB Cross Chop off a 130 ATK beast, criting every now and then.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:14 PM   #92
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

Honestly, I'm to lazy to search through those pages right now. Someone give me a quick summary of whats going on, Talon do you have a DS yet, and when can I give you all my friend code so I can kick your asses (I know I don't really mean it, I just like to dream ;_;).

Also, I caught Dialga last night. With an Ultra Ball. I'm happy. However, I'm not broke like a lot of people, so I seriously doubt I'll be using Dialga in my party to often.
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:39 PM   #93
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

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Go catch more unless you can breed or don't care about stats.
You've been nothing but helpful so far, and I thank you for that, but this line really chaps my ass. "Don't care about stats"? Well excuse me, Mr. "I expect you to effort train properly when you have no Macho Brace and 75% of the game-mandated battles ahead of you with nothing but Bibarels and Staravias to train with." Fuck, if you're going to tell me that I suck because I'm not paying attention to effort on this first run-through, I may as well snap my game in half right now since not one person on this planet can even breed until they get to the Daycare (which I have yet to do). I mean, seriously. What the fuck's the point in properly effort-training a wild Machop? (Answer: there isn't any! Unless you're playing the game for the first time or intend to waste two of the most precious TMs in the game on this one creature, that is. Then it doesn't matter that your Machop only learns fighting and normal-type moves, his species' repertoire devoid of such necessities as Earthquake or Stone Edge.)

Like I said, you've been an awesome help, and your explanation of the natures is just what I wanted (so now I know to delete those Machops and to also abandon this Jolly Staravia I found whose speed was below a neutral-Speed Staravia's), but you don't need to be saying things like, "Pfft, you n00bs, don't even care about EVs." Yeah, we do. I'm just not keen on the idea of wasting 20 hours in the first patch of grass to properly effort train a Zigzagoon and a Zubat like I did last time with Pokemon Emerald. That was hell. If you want to do it, be my guest. But I think it's very condescending to say that we all should just "delete our monsters now" if we're not effort training them properly. How about you let us beat the game first, and then we'll delete them once we get a chance to go at the game seriously with unlimited financial resources, TMs, Daycare, etc.?

This is why I've grown to dislike Pokémon. The super-competitive people are always demanding that people like us ought to either waste 1000s of hours of our lives to make "a worthy team" or else we should just kiss dirt. I mean, jesus, I think I'd much rather have a shitty team and take those 1000 hours back. GameFreak has sadly taken a page out of Blizzard's notebook: this whole bullshit notion of "let's make it really really really really HARD to get the perfect monster, so that when somebody DOES have one, it means they could have made 20,000 USD in that same time period holding a job!"

Don't take this the wrong way (though that may be hard to do). Do realize that I am really thankful for your advice/reminders, and I'd have had to go look for them elsewhere otherwise.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:33 PM   #94
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

Amen Talon. Amen.

I don't care if my team is 'weak' because they aren't EV trained. I do what I want in a game, and if people can't accept it, that's their problem. I don't use 'awesome' movesets. I don't get the 'best' nature for my Pokemon.

It's WAY too time consuming. If I wanted to do that, I'd go to Net Battle.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:35 PM   #95
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

Dude, you're really being a jerk to Dan, calm down. He's saying unless you're going to be breeding them, or are going to head through the game without caring about stats, release them. That's really not an offensive statement, especially considering that the first time through the game most players aren't going to be effort training. They'll beat the elites, unlock the game, and then start focusing on a competitive battle team so that they don't have to fuss with the random EVs coming in from trainer battles. That way you get your macho brace and Pokerus before you start training, saving yourself huge amounts of time and hassle.

And even if he did still mean to offend you, he said it to help you out. Not something you need to go Talon ranty over.
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Meh, my bad if I offended you. You were asking about stats and I autoassumed you were looking for good pokemon. I usually don't go over the edge my first time through the game, because it is impossible to do anything with the ingame pokemon you use, due to Gyms and trainers giving random EV's.

What I meant in that line was that if you want to go through the game without caring about stats. Not anything else. EV training when your playing through the game is too time consuming.

I dunno what else to say. I just assumed you were looking for a competitively able pokemon and I stated my opinion on that. If you wanted anything else, or not a competitive look on your question, you could have stated that and I probably wouldn't have answered it. :/
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

Augggh, I was afraid this would happen. I'm at the Pokemon League and my guys are all Lv. 47-49. -_- Whyyy are VS Seekers still inoperable in caves? The VR Pokemon give meager experience, too. The people on the GameFAQs boards say that Elite 4 suicide runs are the best way to go, though, since you aparently only lose the amount of money you would have won instead of half your cash.

Still, I've been milking this game for all it is. 87 hours and still haven't challenged the E4 FTW. (Though someone on GameFAQs said they logged over 100 hours and is much earlier in the game. XD)
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:58 AM   #98
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Yeah, I've not attempted the E4 after what elvels I saw them at >> went into Vroad to train them up..got to 50 on about 3 poeks before i had to stop, Vroad isn't a good palce to level starraptor and Luxray =(


I did catch a Shiny Geodude though *Thumbs up* While having a look for Hippodown..is it supposed to be rare or is it just being a bugger for me....I do need to check that honey Islathered on a tree though see what I come up against
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I've spent 26 hours on the game now ... probably around 6-8 of those in the Underground, digging up shards, stones, and whatnot. Spheres are worthless to me (since I don't really care about a Secret Base if I can't fight my friends in it ... which it doesn't look like you can do, after my experimenting with Secret Bases with my friend Zschaun last night, irl using local wireless, with both of us creating Secret Bases, swapping Trainer Records, etc.). However, the stones are pretty intriguing. Soft Clay, Smooth Stone, several Water Stones, a Moon Stone, a Sun Stone ... man. I know it's greedy of me, but I was hoping to find a Dark Stone down there. ^_^; Oh well, probably can't get that until way later in the game. Sorry, Misdreavus. You'll just have to sit tight for now.

Currently poised to fight the 5th gym leader. But since I'm making a genuine effort to correctly EV-train this Misdreavus, and after hosing the entire 5th gym she's still only at Level 33, I'm contemplating what to do. Looking forward to being able to Surf, though.

- Torterra, Level 49 (not EV-trained at all)
- Onix, Level 33 (poorly EV-trained)
- Misdreavus, Level 33 (EV-trained)
- Alakazam, Level 20 (EV-trained ... but has only fought twice )
- Bibarel, HM whore
- Staravia, HM whore (never fought with it, crappy personality, use it for Fly and Defog)
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Re: Pokemon diamond and pearl.

I've been spending these last few days hatching gible's, and I've been finding only relaxed and modest ones. What's your friend code talon? :O
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