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Old 11-17-2019, 03:24 AM   #1
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Pokemon SS

It's begun.

We'e learned that Pikachu is 4 years old.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:47 AM   #2
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Does that mean they finally aged Ash a few years?
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:09 PM   #3
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Does that mean they finally aged Ash a few years?
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:25 AM   #4
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Ash was confirmed 6 years old in the flashback. Interesting enough he missed the summer camp and was sad, so that means he was 7 when he went to summer camp and met Serena. I’m really surprised they kept continuity with XY’s backstory.
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Old 12-01-2019, 03:59 AM   #5
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Arrrgh, this be boring. >:[
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Old 12-31-2019, 05:50 PM   #6
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So we're seven episodes in and here's my impression of this series: a lot happens, but it happens in a boring, dull way.

I want to make a comparison to a PreCure show but I honestly couldn't think of one boring like this. In fact, I've seen a show like this in the past that was a tiresome drag but I can't put my finger on it. I'd have to dig through the old posts in the recommendation thread to find it.

Is the show bad? Technically, no. There's no true filler, just filler-like material. To really get down to why this is a dull show, I'd have to break it down:

Go: Pokemon's new protagonist

Ash has been replaced and I don't care what anyone says. He has very little dialogue and when he says stuff it's either stating the obvious, expressing support or making a butt monkey joke. He doesn't really have good "chemistry" with Go, in that the two are convincing best friends. They contrast each other enough that they're not boring themselves, but their adventures are.

These first seven episodes have been mostly about Go. Getting his first Pokemon, learning to love catching, then learning to love battles. For him, this is great development with lower stakes, but Ash doesn't have to be here. In fact, his presence adds nothing since he offer very little in the mentorship department.

I don't like that Pokemon Master Ash is demoted to an anonymous side character here. I would have him being celebrity worshiped everywhere, but a little recognition of who he is would help integrate him into the story more. For now, he's some guy who hangs around Go, and doesn't even provide good sidekick material for Go.

Boring one-off adventures

Going to certain exotic lands researching strange phenomenon and Pokemon, a la Indiana Jones isn't a bad premise for SS. It got off to a good start with the Galar mini-arc in SS003-SS004, requiring Ash-Go to fly to Wyndon then take a train down to the Wild Area since there's no other airport in Galar. But the Scorbunny plot, and later Snorlax plot, was uninteresting and took focus away from Ash-Go who should drive the episode's entertainment value. When you have fewer characters, those characters need to do more and not take a backseat to some plot.

However, starting with SS007, we have plane hopping to different regions and it's whiplash. Ash travels to Hoenn to compete in a small-scale tournament, and travels all the way to Sinnoh to return a lost Piplup instead of...I dunno, calling the Sinnoh Police and letting them know a Piplup was lost in Kanto? This feels completely meandering since the character development beats could be done in another way.

For example, if all it took was watching Ash win a Pokemon Battle for Go to become interesting, did Go really need to go to Hoenn for it? Honestly, it feels like Ash is in another world compared to Sun/Moon or even the animes before, due to the change in city design, Ash's art design, and the lack of direct continuity.

I'm not asking for fanservice here, I'd just like Ash, former Pokemon protagonist, be upgraded at least to co-protagonist and not be this series Brock. Because he's basically Brock, and that sucks.
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Old 02-16-2020, 04:33 AM   #7
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Strongly considering dropping this. We're 13 episodes in and pretty much the whole run has been boring and clumsy.

The dynamax battle here helped illustrate that.
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Old 03-07-2020, 11:12 PM   #9
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So it's shaping up for Ash's SS team to be:

Pikachu
Mr. Mime
Dragonite
Gengar
Lugia

Is that team better than his Alola one? I think at minimum it's better than Kalos, unless you want to argue Ash-Greninja is stronger than a Lugia.
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Old 03-22-2020, 04:13 AM   #10
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Holy fudge continuity wowwwwwz
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:13 PM   #11
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they kept strait with xy wow,
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Old 09-13-2020, 04:13 AM   #12
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We're back in Alola and all is right with the world.

;_;

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