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Old 11-07-2016, 07:25 PM   #1676
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Fair warning to those who are part of the Discord chat that there has been discussion of said leaks in there already, for those who wish to avoid said discussion.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:45 PM   #1677
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I started playing the demo like 20 mins ago and I finished it already. It ended and I was really confused of why it was so short but then I remembered it's just a demo lol...
If it only lasted you twenty minutes you most likely did not see the whole thing. Try turning it back on again after it ends and there will be more things to see and do. : )
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:55 PM   #1678
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Fair warning to those who are part of the Discord chat that there has been discussion of said leaks in there already, for those who wish to avoid said discussion.
Seriously? I obviously can't control Discord but come on guys, can't you take it to a private channel? Unless everyone is cool with it then, cool I guess
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:58 PM   #1679
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In fairness its not really any different from discussing the datamine leaks. I'm not sure what the difference is here.
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:10 PM   #1680
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:36 PM   #1681
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the difference is that the plot is now being spoiled, which I understand that some people really dont want spoiled (I dont give a darn). I do find it funny seeing where some people draw the line though haha.
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Old 11-08-2016, 01:11 AM   #1682
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>plot spoilers

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm out.

While I do personally want to keep a vested interest in things like movepools and abilities and whatnot for the purpose of helping with ASB related things, the primary reason I was able to play through Gen VI and consider it fun as opposed to Gens IV and V which I never finished was entirely due to not having the plot spoiled for me. I'd like to request that people keep all the technical details and the plot details seperated in their spoilers, but I'm not about to start splitting hairs because frankly everyone does have their line and we shouldn't try to cater to everyone's individual spoiler policies.

Feel free to PM me anything that isn't plot on discord, though, as I would like to keep in the know as stated.
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Old 11-08-2016, 06:53 AM   #1683
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My personal opinion is that gameplay stuff (like stats, movepools, and stuff like that) are fine; those are things we could have learned from the datamine and would have been discussed anyways.

Plot stuff should probably be abstained but I personally have nothing to lose so.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:42 AM   #1684
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Plot spoilers is exactly what I'm talking about. There's definitely a line. You leak the whole Pokedex? Whatever. You start leaking game-specific details, like plot or special events/mechanics/surprises/in-game experiences/etc, that's when I draw the line, personally.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:10 PM   #1685
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Plot spoilers were purged from the chat. There were links but there were warnings that there were plot spoilers in them so people were more than welcome to avoid them. Game play spoilers is what we've been discussing.
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:03 PM   #1686
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>Gale Wings got nerfed to only work when at full HP

Bwahahahahahahaha suck it Smogonbird

Granted, it's now just a slightly faster Swellow after the first BIRD, which is still ludicrous, but what a kick in the balls.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:44 PM   #1687
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From everything I know, that's fake. Sauce?
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Old 11-10-2016, 05:47 AM   #1688
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:15 PM   #1689
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I'm afraid to click on those.. I wish you guys would provide context for the spoiler lol
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:28 PM   #1690
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They're not story spoilers, its purely gameplay releated. In addition, Raves is right.
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Old 11-11-2016, 06:59 PM   #1691
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Actual spoilers here.

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These games have taken the kiddie gloves off, as some of the boss trainers I hear don't just have perfect IVs, but have EVs.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:57 PM   #1692
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:42 PM   #1693
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Gameplay rebalancing:
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Gengar was nerfed by losing Levitate and by Destiny Bond having a Protect-esque mechanic worked into it, but outside of that, I still feel Gengar is going to be really strong. It's still fast, has a great support movepool, and has good strength. In addition, Cursed Body isn't completely terrible, just unreliable.

Other Pokemon to get nerfed were the legendary beasts, they no longer get their HAs and instead get Inner Focus. This is a major nerf for Entei and Suicune (less so for Raikou). Entei enjoyed the power up that Flash Fire gave to make its Sacred Fire even stronger, and Suicune enjoyed the immunity to Scald burns. Losing that has hurt both Pokemon.

But there have been very few nerfs this generation compared to the last one. A lot more buffs instead, although I would only go into them if people wanted me to.
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:05 AM   #1694
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Apparently turn order is now decided after Mega Evolution takes place. In other words, a Pokémon Mega Evolves, its new Speed stat takes effect that same turn, and Banette gets to launch a priority status move as soon as it goes Mega. I can't wait to transfer in and Hyper Train my Cotton Guard Banette. And a bunch of other Megas no longer need to run Protect in order to safely Mega Evolve.
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For years Mercutio tried to get rid of typeless attacks over at ASB. I advocated for the same. Now Gamefreak makes typeless canon.
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Old 11-12-2016, 01:27 PM   #1696
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are we gonna be able to put alola raticate on a diet or is it just gonna be fat

edit: omg alola persian has my favorite ability fur coat!!!!

it probably won't get cotton guard though
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Old 11-12-2016, 04:02 PM   #1697
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For years Mercutio tried to get rid of typeless attacks over at ASB. I advocated for the same. Now Gamefreak makes typeless canon.
To be fair, back in 2002 what finally got me to join PASBL was the banning of Super Evos. I didn't want to play a game where a Scizor summons a rune-encrusted two handed sword as a signature move.

Then came Mega Evolutions.

Also,

Edit: Ehh, I'm gonna redact this one.
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Old 11-13-2016, 03:25 PM   #1698
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I think we have an explanation for why Ash-Greninja is in the game canon now?
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Old 11-13-2016, 05:03 PM   #1699
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You are no longer the only making use of the clothing stores- there at least two other characters who do! Granted, all one of them does is add a bandana to their normal attire, but at least that's something.

Oh, and you can now battle to defend your title of Champion! There are even some characters who only appear in this manner with... interesting designs. And there are, of course, a couple familiar faces. ...I'll stop there before I give anyone away, though.
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Old 11-14-2016, 12:47 AM   #1700
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To be fair, back in 2002 what finally got me to join PASBL was the banning of Super Evos. I didn't want to play a game where a Scizor summons a rune-encrusted two handed sword as a signature move.
Are you kidding me that shit would get me to sign up as an active member in a fucking heartbeat
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