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View Poll Results: Style of Tournament? ONLY 10 OPTIONS! FFFF
Double Elimination - B/W Pokemon Only - Single 6v6 2 13.33%
Double Elimination - All Pokemon - Single 6v6 4 26.67%
Double Elimination - B/W Pokemon Only - Doubles 4v4 0 0%
Double Elimination - All Pokemon - Doubles 4v4 0 0%
Double Elimination - Triples 6v6 (Say BW or All) 1 6.67%
Round Robin - B/W Pokemon Only - Single 6v6 3 20.00%
Round Robin - All Pokemon - Single 6v6 4 26.67%
Round Robin - B/W Pokemon Only - Doubles 4v4 0 0%
Round Robin - All Pokemon Only - Doubles 4v4 0 0%
Round Robin - Triples 6v6 (Say BW or All) 1 6.67%
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:28 AM   #1
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Mewtwo UPN Summer Tournament 2011

Pokemon tournament. Soonish. Vote for style. Post a cool time period you can willingly play in the tournament. Also state times free and time zone you're in. Makes things easier to organize. Nickname all your Pokemon. Unova only species or all species? Round robin or double elimination? Singles, doubles, or triples? So many choices, so few poll slots.

Also, these tournaments are just for fun. No prizes yet. If there is, it will be something very minor.

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Old 03-28-2011, 05:10 AM   #2
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Suggestion: Round Robin on Pokemon Online? *shot*
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:58 AM   #3
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:39 PM   #4
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Style Voted For: Round Robin, All Pokémon, 6v6 singles
Styles Favored: all Pokémon
Time Period: any time all summer works for me. Not going on vacation or anything.
Time Zone: Eastern Daylight Time (GMT - 4:00)
Times Free: random times of day most days; opponent should contact directly to arrange a time and place to meet

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why I voted for the Round Robin format
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I'd like to see a Round Robin tournament this time. It gives everyone more opportunities to play. The one stipulation that'd need to be adhered to for this to work is no forgiveness on absences, barring deaths in the family or hospitalizations. (And it's up to the tournament organizer to decide whether he even believes those claims or not, so don't think you could just BS and say "my grandpa died " and get away with it.) For round robin to be fun and really work, especially for a group as big as ours (assuming it's 16 12 again like last time or even bigger), we'd have to have each player participating in at least one game every day. Make it every two days and it starts to get long. Make it once a week and it'll be an absolute nightmare. So if people have scheduling conflicts and say "I can only fight on the weekends" and stuff like that, then I suppose that's death to the Round Robin format. Unless we agree that on those specified weekends we're going to do a heck of a lot more than just one match a day. Like, if we were to do 4 matches per person Saturday and 4 matches per person Sunday, then that'd work. That'd be roughly equivalent to one match a day every day of the week. But it can't be Round Robin format and just be one game per week. That would be awful. But if no one has any real scheduling issues, then this would be great to allow for the largest number of games played, war stories, etc.


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I also like the idea of doing things on Pokémon Online. I know a lot of people would rather do it with their homegrown Pokemon since (in their minds) that's half the point of the battle, but I think opening it up to a digital battlefield would allow the greatest number of people to participate with their best, fully-thought out teams. It also wouldn't stack the tournament in favor of the Pokeholics who have already spent 200+ hours breeding and EV training stuff even though the games are less than a month old in most territories. Now, if you happen to be one of those Pokeholics, then I can see why my opinion might ruffle your feathers and you might want to see this proposal shot down. But I'm against you on this one. Sorry, Charlie. Nothin' personal.

One problem which can be averted if we do things on Pokemon Online is that not everybody wants to import their 4th gen mon over to B/W yet. I have a few friends irl who I know are deliberately not importing their Pokemon because they'd rather wait for Pokemon Gray to come out and then import everything all onto one pak. They don't want to have to do it twice in two to three years since it's already a pretty big hassle, especially if you only have one DS console in your household. Then there's people like me who don't even own a 5th gen game. I'm on the fence about Gray, but I know there are some people who are simply holding out for Gray because they don't want to or can't justify the purchase of what's pretty much the same exact game twice (Black/White in 2011 and then Gray in ~2013). If you force the tournament to be on legal game paks only, and if B/W does not support backwards battling compatibility with 4th gen, then you're pretty much ruling out anyone who falls under these categories. But you avoid all of this headache if you just move things onto P-O.

Another reason why I like Pokemon Online is people can spectate while the battle's happening. This would be great for building spirit during the tournament. The most fun battles last tourney were those where I could chat with my buddies in the UPN AIM chat room while the battles took place. I didn't really care as much about the battles that I hadn't gotten to see and which were fought by people I didn't know. But what if I could have seen them? Might I have made some new friends? Maybe. Might those people who fought have felt like their battles were more epic? Possibly. I think it's a lot more fun to have an audience than to not have one, and P-O facilitates this quite well.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:54 PM   #5
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No PO. End of discussion.
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:47 PM   #6
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Hmmm. The poll was supposed to list who voted what, but I'm not seeing it after I voted.
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:57 PM   #7
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It shows me who voted for what.
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:25 PM   #8
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Would definitely join on PO. Actual in game wise, I would if I can get a team together by then...Round Robin, 6v6 Singles. Classy.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:13 PM   #9
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Either very few wish to participate, or I killed the thread with the denial of PO. Which I will stand by.
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Old 04-01-2011, 07:17 PM   #10
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Voted Round Robin - B/W Pokemon Only - Single 6v6.

Round Robin for... Wait. Talon already explained this for me. Nice. B/W pokemon only because, well, it'd be interesting for us all to use pokemon that we haven't used before. Also, it makes it so Sand teams can't dominate (Problem, T-tar?). Single 6vs6 for clique simplicity.


...Then again, by then, I'll have, like, >60 pokemon EV trained. So I can really go with any format.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:53 PM   #11
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So when would we be doing this? I might be interesting since I've started RNG'ing some 'mons (already got myself /r9k/ the Golett and AMERIGO the Rufflet queued up for EVing). I think I can rustle up a team given some time.
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Old 04-03-2011, 03:44 PM   #12
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I was thinking June. By then most people will be out of school or school will be finished up enough that people should have free time to mess around on Pokemon. But nothing is set in stone.
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>Two guys queued for EVing


...Yet again, I am reminded that I have absolutely no life. Doesn't anyone else have over three teams fully EVed and trained yet?!
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:16 PM   #14
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To be honest, I haven't finished Black. Mostly due to laziness. And N's Ferris Wheel ride.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:19 PM   #15
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>Two guys queued for EVing


...Yet again, I am reminded that I have absolutely no life. Doesn't anyone else have over three teams fully EVed and trained yet?!
Why would anyone bother EV training before you can reliably get hexflawless mon?
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Why would anyone bother EV training before you can reliably get hexflawless mon?
Legimatness (not a word, me thinks).
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:14 PM   #17
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>Two guys queued for EVing


...Yet again, I am reminded that I have absolutely no life. Doesn't anyone else have over three teams fully EVed and trained yet?!
I have, but most of them are gen 4, I only have 3 gen 5 guys, and one is uuber...

EDIT: Hell yeah, nonC-gear RNG abuse is available.
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Legimatness (not a word, me thinks).
I have 2 legitimate Hexaflawless non-hacked Pokemon.
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I have, but most of them are gen 4, I only have 3 gen 5 guys, and one is uuber...

EDIT: Hell yeah, nonC-gear RNG abuse is available.
When did you get them?
Only one of my Gen V guys was trained before I got B/W. MY LIFE. DOES NOT EXIST.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:42 PM   #20
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I'd prefer PO, but hey, if we have until June I think I can get a team set up, also, 6 v 6 Double Elim W. All pokemon FTW.

and I'd like to learn how to RNG, if it doesn't take too much time.
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:42 PM   #22
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Rules so far:
-Evasion clause - No Double Team or Minimize usage. Brightpowder is banned. Acupressure is okay.
-Self-KO clause - Use of Destiny Bond/Explosion/Self Destruct on your last Pokemon gives your opponent the win.
-Item clause - Pokemon cannot use the same held item.
-Species clause - Can only use one Pokemon of a species.
-Sleep clause - Can only put one enemy Pokemon to Sleep. Rest is still okay.
-Legends Banned - All legends. Not just uber ones. Reasoning is because last tournament we had issues. Legends are always the most likely to be trouble.
-Dream World Pokemon Banned - Dream World is not available yet outside Japan (which it might be down again because of the disasters), so no DW Pokemon.

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-OHKO Ban - All OHKO moves banned.

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Old 04-08-2011, 05:54 PM   #23
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>-Legends Banned - All legends. Not just uber ones. Reasoning is because last tournament we had issues. Legends are always the most likely to be trouble.

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Old 04-08-2011, 06:29 PM   #24
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Last time we had a tournament, someone had a questionable legendary Pokemon off the GTS. I'd like to avoid another incident involving illegitimacy and legends are the most likely candidate for such hacking. In addition, by banning both Legends and Dream World Pokemon, we don't have to work on making our own Uber list.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:54 PM   #25
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> No PO
> No legends

I'm very much tempted to start an unofficial tourney
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