05-19-2016, 11:07 AM | #326 |
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tbh the best answer is to just keep the spoilers limited until after Christmas or release, whichever the spoiler-frees want. Yes people want shiny new avatars and sigs, but they can do without them. Anyone who thinks otherwise seriously needs to fucking rethink. Asking/forcing people to duck out of the forum for a few weeks is more likely to lead to those people not returning. And also it's really hard to avoid something that's become a part of their daily/weekly routine like UPN is for most people. I say as I check stuff while I need to be revising for my exam this saturday.
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05-19-2016, 04:37 PM | #327 |
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Alternate perspective: people need to grow up.
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05-19-2016, 05:50 PM | #328 |
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...Said the pot to the kettle
I enact this policy because Kuno wants it and it's Kuno's forum. For now I'm saying until the game come out, which is intentionally noncommittal. |
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As far as spoilers go, there are those who want to go into the games with as little info on them as possible, to get that same kind of feeling and enjoyment out of them they had in the past. There is quite simply nothing like playing a brand new Pokemon adventure, not knowing what the new Pokemon are, or what the region is like - running into a wild Pokemon you've never seen before and going "Holy shit, what IS that!?" or watching it evolve for the first time into something you have no idea of, I'd say that at its core that embodies the Pokemon experience. And on top of that, Kuno is strictly an anti-spoiler individual, and seeing as he has the final say on how the forum operates, that's all the reason he needs to give anyway. I will admit that I proposed the idea of a sub-forum for Gen 7 spoilers to Kuno, but he had a point: spoilers in the thread titles showing on the front page would be inescapable when the thread has a new reply - though, now that I think of it, I guess there could be a "no spoilers in the thread title" policy, and everyone would be happy. I don't know. It doesn't really matter though, as Jeri said, this is Kuno's forum. Last edited by deoxys; 05-19-2016 at 07:13 PM. |
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05-20-2016, 12:07 AM | #330 |
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05-20-2016, 01:15 AM | #331 |
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Guys come on. Have you ever been to places like /r/asoiaf? The books came out before I was born and yet you still cannot post spoilers in threads that are not explicitly marked for it.
That being said, the avatar/signature rules complicate it a bit, but I'm sure we can all agree that you can wait to get cool Gen7 sigs until the games actually come out. For fuck's sake, I intentionally haven't gotten the Undertale avatar because I don't want to spoil anyone, and I won't get that avatar until Toby gives the okay for the game to be on a GDQ. At the same time it also shouldn't be too difficult a thing to make a Gen 7 discussion subforum and ban spoilers in post titles. Spoilers in post titles are honestly really easy to avoid- you have an entire post where you can elaborate on your vague title and this is not internet news where you won't get clicks without clickbait titles. I mean...there is an alternative (only make the forum visible to people in a particular group where they'd choose to be in) but good grief why would you bother with that. At the end of the day it's Kuno's choice but I really think making a subforum with no spoiler titles allowed would be the perfect choice.
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05-20-2016, 06:43 AM | #332 |
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I mean Ithink when the games come out maybe basic things that have been revealed already i.e. starters for avi's and sigs? Even thoughIprobably have to wait till christmas, I want my Litten avi ASAP tbph
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05-20-2016, 10:29 AM | #333 |
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I think a spoiler subforum w/o title spoiers would be optimal too. It allows the people who want to keep up on the latest official stuff but don't want unofficially leaked stuff anywhere near them to be accommodated, which almost nothing else would do
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05-20-2016, 11:27 AM | #334 |
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Alright, so let's pretend we were going to make Gen 7 discussion threads and were trying to decide on what to name them. IMO, these thread titles would work pretty well at the level of the Pokémon forum, i.e. not in a subforum, but in Pokémon itself. If you want to put the threads into a Gen 7 subforum and keep them there for all time, well then I guess you could delete the "Gen 7" in front of every thread title. Other options in place of "Gen 7" would include "New" or the suffix "Discussion". Whatever. There are workable permutations. Let's get started ...
Spoiler: show Spoiler tagged for length, and also because people keep repeating that Kuno's put his foot down on this one so *shrug*. Doesn't affect me much anyway, and if the decision not to have a Gen 7 subforum is final then it's final. But for anyone interested in how I might approach it, enjoy the tl;dr above.
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We are probably over thinking this. Keep it to this thread
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05-20-2016, 12:07 PM | #336 |
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See talon, if we had enough discussion to warrant that many threads on it, I'd agree, but that level of categorization will probably result in a bunch of half-dead threads.
The Features from Other Media thing sounds a lot like it belongs in with the Mechanics thread. Characters and Plot Speculation are likely to be heavily interlinked, so merging those makes sense, or merging Region and Characters. Leaving: -Plot/Characters thread -Mechanics thread -New mons thread -Fanart thread -Region thread And even then I think five threads is a bit much.
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05-20-2016, 12:08 PM | #337 |
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I'm pretty sure when Gen VI happened we just kept things to a thread like this, then I started up the playthrough thread in the Pokémon forum while marking that it would have spoilers in it. Then a while later everything spread out to the rest of the forum. We could just do that again.
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Don't get me wrong. I'm one of the beneficiaries of our forum's Gen 6 pre-release rules, and I stand to benefit again from similar rules for Gen 7. But I don't have a problem with engaging in discussion about how we've done things before and what might work better in the future. I am open to improvement. Unlike the two of you negative Nancies who don't seem to be very happy when the thread veers away from talk about Litten porn.
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05-20-2016, 12:34 PM | #339 |
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I'm not sure how saying 'Hey this worked' is negative, but alright. Also given the only Gen I've been around here for the release of is Gen V, and I can't exactly remember how that went down, I can't exactly see a whole lot of precedent.
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05-20-2016, 01:07 PM | #340 |
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Sorry if I was terse. It just seemed like Kush was vetoing a conversation he has no right vetoing and then you jumped in and were the Skull to his Bulk. I didn't appreciate either the veto attitude or the perceived bandwagoning. But I apologize to both of you.
I don't think it's right to dismiss this conversation. It isn't harmful to have it. It can only be at its very worst a waste of time. Let the people have it who want to have it. Something good might come out of it.
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You can talk about whatever you would like to Talon. You're just spectacularly over thinking a total non issue :p
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05-20-2016, 01:20 PM | #342 |
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But then why be condescending about it? Let me decide how I spend my time and whether I think it's a waste or not. If all you really have to say is, "You guys are overthinking this," is it even worth posting? Serious question. All you're doing is insulting the people who want to discuss the issue, dismissing their thoughts and concerns as "overthought." If you don't have a horse in the race, why enter?
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05-20-2016, 02:13 PM | #343 |
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I'm not opposed to it at all, it just seems like a slippery slope toward ending up like SPPf and having a subforum for pretty much every aspect of discussion about the games. I was just meaning that it worked just fine last time, but I wouldn't be against threads for various aspects. Just seemed like it could be a bit of clutter, is all!
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Talon, had you considered the alternative possibility that you are in fact over thinking a non-issue?
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05-20-2016, 02:31 PM | #345 |
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Yes, I had.
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05-20-2016, 06:18 PM | #346 |
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Fivr of the Gym Leaders have been leaked!
(Spoilered for size) Spoiler: show Anyway. I think that really all discussion should be able to be contained in this Thread without clutter. UPN isn't nowhere near ax big as BMGf or SPPf to warrant multiple discussion threads. If people reallly think Avatars and Signatures are a problem, then I don't know what to say. Both are meaningless enough to be able to not include Spoilers for a few months? On Spoilers, though, I think keeping a Spoiler Ban until Christmas is a good idea, although persobally, since they were officially released, showing Litten, Rowlet, and Popplio should be fine. |
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