07-11-2013, 01:35 PM | #26 | |
Droppin' CDs and beats
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Quebec province, Canada
Posts: 2,350
|
Quote:
|
|
07-11-2013, 01:48 PM | #27 | |
Beloved Mascot
|
Quote:
Oh yeah, this also means he gets access now to the Egg House so congrats dude! |
|
07-11-2013, 02:01 PM | #28 | |
Volcano Badge
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,143
|
As an updater it does irk me sometimes the way some people RP Poké-speech. I much prefer the sentence:
“Are you ready for adventure?” Alice teased, pulling at the Ponyta’s reigns - the mare giving a whinny and suddenly breaking into a gallop. to this sentence: “Are you ready for adventure?” It’s just a bit weird to read, like there’s some mental block on the Pokémon so it can only say variations of its own name. As far as I’m aware only the anime has Pokémon behave like this (probably so kids can remember the names better?) and let’s face it, the anime is probably the most illogical, lowest quality and least mature piece of Pokémon source material out there. In my mind’s eye when I’m updating I don’t picture Pokémon in a real life setting either, but more of a mature anime with quality on par to something like a studio ghibli film. In terms of intelligence, I usually put them on-par with their real-life counterparts to an extent. A Ponyta would have a horse mentality, a Granbull would have a hound mentality. Psychic types generally behave more intelligently, with a few exceptions (Grumpig, Slowbro etc). I guess I do RP Pokémon as being more intelligent when they need to be, such as following orders. I guess that is a flaw, but it’s better in my opinion than RPing every Pokémon in exactly the same way which I’ve seen some people do. There’s also the plothole of newborn Pokémon. I remember MM hatched a Pawniard and had it capable of speaking to other Pokémon within a day of its birth (threatening to assassinate anyone who hurt Keith). It just doesn’t really make sense to me. That's just my opinion explained though. I've said people are free to do it however they want and I’m not criticising people who RP this way. Some of the best roleplayers here do it differently, so I’m not going to really judge. Quote:
Although I think this topic belongs in the TO?
__________________
Last edited by Emp; 07-11-2013 at 03:22 PM. |
|
07-11-2013, 02:43 PM | #29 |
Weavile Pillow
|
My opinion on Pokespeech is that it works based on the species. To use Emp's example, I wouldn't have Ponyta use Pokespeech either, it doesn't make sense to me (not even the anime has Ponyta or Rapidash use Pokespeech). Same with Mightyena, for the most part, I can't see Mightyena making any sound other than barking. Lanturn shouldn't be limited to just a rough form of Pokespeech; since they're similar to dolphins I RP Delilah as having a complex series of calls and whistles that humans simply don't understand without enough experience working with her.
Other than that, I haven't really seen a problem with using Pokespeech for the rest of my team, though I'm admittedly not too consistent with it. Another thing is that haven't RP'd with Ezreal (Trapinch) yet, so I might do something different with him until he fully evolves. Also, if I get an Onix in FB, I'll probably have him/her just talk by roaring since that's just what makes me more comfortable. So I'm not going to use Pokespeech for everyone, just when it seems appropriate. As far as intelligence purposes, I think of some Pokemon as magical beasts, to use the DnD term, and others as animals, and still others by other classifications, like fae and spirits. That is, some Pokemon only have the instincts they were born with, while others have more intelligence, just not enough to be able to converse with humans. Then we have certain Psychic-types who are capable of telepathy with humans, and some Ghost-types who used to be humans and can therefore use human speech. Again, it depends on the Pokemon. Also, I think zone captures can and should be discussed here because it is, in a way, a discussion about that person's adventure. Maybe somebody sees that a capture was made and wants to look at the adventure that lead the person to catch it. Then they realize that it was a pretty cool adventure they had and talk about it further here. That's one of the purposes of this thread, it's to talk about what other people are going through in their adventures, right?
__________________
Avatar made by din-of-hyrule Battlecut made by the crazy Daisy! *happy snek sounds* Twitch | YouTube | Twitter | Wild Future Last edited by Gemini Spark; 07-11-2013 at 03:03 PM. |
07-11-2013, 02:59 PM | #30 |
Confident in the present
|
But Emp, you could also easily write-
“Are you ready for adventure?” Alice teased, pulling at the Ponyta’s reigns- the Ponyta gave an excited "Po-Ponyta!" and suddenly broke into a gallop, riding off into the sunset. EDIT: As for pokespeach, I agree with GS. I'm not entirely sure about Alice and Cosette, but Seth's "gligar'ing" seems better then using the non-verbal communication of scorpions. :p I wouldn't have an Stoutland saying "stoutland" instead of barking. As for intelligence, I roleplay as them having near-human intellect; they can feel, think abstractly, etc.
__________________
|
07-11-2013, 03:38 PM | #31 |
An actual game I made!
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Literally the internet
Posts: 9,213
|
I like to RP most Pokémon as being more intelligent than the average real-world animal, though I'm not above RPing certain Pokémon as acting like their real-world counterpart. Ruby, my Houndour, for example, will jump up and lick the face of nearly anyone she comes across, thus acting like a dog.
As for Pokéspeak, I rarely give the untranslated version of it in any case, unless it's being spoken to Keith, and is not in Shuppet, Banette, Gastly, Haunter, or Gengar language (he can understand those languages, though can only actually speak the first two himself). I take from the anime here, because after having watched it so much, that's just how I find it easiest to imagine the Pokémon world. As far as Pokémon speaking human language, I only do that where it would be possible for there to be an in-universe explanation that is at least somewhat plausible for the Pokémon world. For instance, my Dusclops, Banette, Shuppet, and Gastly can all speak the human language. I've always thought of Ghost-types as having at least somewhat above-average intelligence, plus there's those mysterious powers they possess. Not to mention, my Shuppet actually used to be human, so yeah. I don't find it much of a stretch. My Meowth gained the ability due to a trade machine malfunction when he was being traded to me, due to human DNA in the trade machine. I consider most Psychic-types to be capable of telepathy with at least a little bit of ease, and non-Psychic-types that learn Psychic moves to be able to learn to use telepathy through hard work- this is evident in my Swoobat and my Weezing, respectively. |
07-11-2013, 03:48 PM | #32 | ||||
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
When MarbleZone said he implemented my rules, you might have noticed that he didn't copy them 100%. He snipped out the bits that he either disagreed with or else thought were extraneous. Maybe now it's a bit more clear why they weren't extraneous ... and why they might not have been wrong either. Because while there's absolutely nothing wrong with congratulating anyone on getting a new team mate, period, I don't see what that has anything to do with RP discussion -- what significance there is that he caught it vs. hatched it vs. got it in a trade -- if all you're saying is "GRATS! " to him and then moving on. Do you really have nothing at all to say about how deserved his capture was? About how fun his adventure was to read? About how excellent a particular sentence or group of sentences were in his updator's post? Regardless, MarbleZone did strip my clause out of his version of the rules, so to answer Emp's question, no, no one's broken any rules and if people want to offer two-sentence or one-sentence congratulations here then they can.
__________________
|
||||
07-11-2013, 04:38 PM | #33 |
Marsh Badge
|
>Escalion: Am I Pokéspeaking correctly? (paraphrasing)
The way I see it is that everyone has their own choice on how they want their Pokémon to speak and if anyone were to say it was wrong and you had to do it differently it would mean that there was a right way of doing it and that way must be enforced which would actually cut into the free-RP'ing decisions you get to make and that's one of the few things you wouldn't want to do in a RP-thread. Honestly, I find your take on it a bit interesting; having some speak their names while others merely roar or growl. Your idea of Pokéspeach isn't rigid or static then, there's some sort of flexibility and thought behind it. Same goes for nearly everyone else here btw; definitely not saying Escalion's the only one who I find is doing it right I'm actually largely unsure of how much I want my Pokémon to be able to talk. So thank you everyone for discussing this. This discussion has actually largely made me rethink how I'd want to RP. I personally think it's best to sometimes just keep it to a simple 'pika-pi' where what it's trying to say is (usually) clear but it's exact use of words can be left to the imagination. Though I've been in the fault on this matter on more than 1 occasion by having my Pokémon's words translated such as in the FB Bar and Visionary Glade. That being said, I think it's okay to once in a while have a 'special episode' in which Pokémon talk to each other.
__________________
|
07-11-2013, 04:40 PM | #34 |
Barghest Barghest Barghe-
|
>Pokespeak
I personally do this unlike anyone else. Well, at least as far as I have seen. To my knowledge, I am the only person who uses a translator device to translate the language of Pokemon into English. I probably should have been more consistent with this at first, but now that I have a Rotom, the pace has picked up considerably. I believe that Pokemon can understand other Pokemon pretty easily, and my Rotom is constantly working on the translator. There are plenty of Pokemon Blaze doesn't have translated, and some he doesn't have too. Most Ghosts can also speak human language, and my Yanmega can speak Russian. Spiritomb can speak any number of languages depending on its spirits. I also believe that some Pokemon can be taught to speak human language.
__________________
|
07-11-2013, 04:43 PM | #35 | |
Blades and Butterflies
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Spreading my Rot
Posts: 2,772
|
Quote:
That said, when I finally have the time/motivation to return to free RP, Minerva will likely run into Keith again... and it will be interesting to see if the erasure actually endures, and how she will react to the past that she no longer remembers. I am still not 100% willing to commit to Minerva being human, but time will tell. It'll depend on how that storyline develops. In the meantime, I need to respond to my adventures... Particularly CG. There's going to be some interesting development there with Minerva, for sure.
__________________
|
|
07-11-2013, 05:02 PM | #36 | |
Barghest Barghest Barghe-
|
Quote:
More of a reason to RP in my base now, but I'm not going to act like I have some divine knowledge of this. I'm not even sure if my character knows that Coselle was Minerva(Hades knew almost immediately, but he wouldn't share it with Blaze). I'm also looking for feedback if people want to provide some. I only want to get better so don't feel odd telling me what you think.
__________________
|
|
07-11-2013, 05:49 PM | #37 | |
Soul Badge
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,025
|
Quote:
Still, regardless of hard rules, I'll believe in people's better judgment on this; if you have nothing to say other than "congrats", don't post here. This is a place to discuss RPs, not to post one-liners about some random shop evolution or Egg House unlocking. Troublesome as it might be for some people, I'd like everyone to at least post something a little more constructive than "congrats on the Skorupi".
__________________
|
|
07-11-2013, 09:58 PM | #38 |
Dragon's Tears
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Searching for light
Posts: 6,469
|
>Timeline
I feel obligated to respond to this even though the topic was put to rest and I don't have much to contribute. I don't really have a set timeline, and considering the number of Adventures I've been on it's even harder to list and put them in order. Often I tend to mix real time and RP time. For example in my latest CC post I lined the end of the Raikou Race up with the Fourth of July, even though it started in spring. >Pokéspeak I tend not to write out my Pokémon saying their names unless it's for TO chat. Actually, lately I find myself avoiding explicit dialogue altogether. I'm not very good at expressing myself verbally period, so I just skip over conversations to make things easiier. ^^; Huzzah! I'm quite looking forward to it. X3
__________________
|
07-12-2013, 10:15 AM | #39 |
Primordial Fishbeast
|
So I finally replied to my AR adventure. Seriously need to get myself more motivated more often.
I get the feeling that uhhhhh's going to approve of how I'm battling. |
07-12-2013, 01:33 PM | #40 | |
Droppin' CDs and beats
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Quebec province, Canada
Posts: 2,350
|
Quote:
May sound like nothing or silly, but it would be nice if here we just don't talk about the quality story/creativity-wise, but general writing-wise. It would give a good confidence boost in people's writing skills (however basic it is) and get some feedback if we write things correctly. I always get the impression of writing things badly... even if so far Tess haven't wrote a single "bad" comment about my posts in the AR ^^; Last edited by OkikuMew; 07-12-2013 at 01:45 PM. |
|
07-12-2013, 02:08 PM | #41 |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
If it's questions and answers about RP writing, great. If it's about grammar and vocabulary and spelling help, I think I'd prefer a separate Writer's Workshop. No "you're/your", "their/they're" "shouldn't 've misspelled as shouldn't of", etc, discussion here, please. [/my 2˘, short version] To read on ...
Spoiler: show
__________________
|
07-12-2013, 03:04 PM | #42 |
Droppin' CDs and beats
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Quebec province, Canada
Posts: 2,350
|
Hmm, I get your point. I simply thought that, before mentioning your side of things, since this was a thread about discussing/commenting about our RPing and writing skills, vocabulary/grammar would fit in (after all, it is part of writing) but now I understand that it's more for the creative side of things, not the "technique" part.
Why I haven't posted much in that subject is I'm basically in generic artistic slump right now. I dunno, it's like my creativity switch in my brain is set to off or disabled, so looking into and working on creative stuff feels straining, while my more logical side is more active. Probably why these days I've been very lacking into posting in the free RP zones (namely the bar and the nightclub, so sorry guys ;-;) and instead I'm getting back into programming after years of not writing a line of code (if you don't count the small amount of Excel programming for work). That been said... *le attempt* Back when I was posting into the RP zones more frequently and wasn't much into that "artistic burn-out", I gotta say I liked how MM pulled off RPing Chance's (his Wartortle) state of confusion within our sort-of trainer battle. Typically (I think) we tend only to RP only the outer state of the battling Pokemon, as most of our RPing is related to the trainer (not to mention it is, after all, trainers who calls in the attacks and whom we relate to the most). But in this case of the battle, since the trainers are not involved in the battle (not calling the attacks anyway), it pushed both of us to get into the state of mind of the battling Pokemon... which makes it interesting. And in that point, more so as the Pokemon is confused, and that is something you don't RP everyday And I find MM wrote Chance's state of mind well, despite not knowing perfectly how a Pokemon's confusion state feels ^^ |
07-12-2013, 08:55 PM | #43 |
Your reality is mine
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 2,829
|
While reading other adventures, I've gotten the urge to RP and so I've posted in the Fizzytopian Parks and Gardens for the first time. Here goes nothing. :3
__________________
|
07-13-2013, 06:57 AM | #44 |
Volcano Badge
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,047
|
I solved a Shadowshocker riddle yesterday! (I think!) I'm proud.
|
07-13-2013, 07:52 AM | #45 |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
And this has to do with RPing ... how? ^^;; (Wrong thread?)
__________________
|
07-13-2013, 08:09 AM | #47 |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
Ohhhhhhhh ... I thought he meant a Serebii Shop-of-all-Trades shard quest riddle, since Shadowshocker's the Serebii SoaT shopkeeper and I mistakenly though that jj was a Serebii homeboarder as well. (Dunno why. ^^; I've seen him do plenty of shop stuff here on UPN ... Whoops!)
Apologies, jj. ^^; Handy link for everyone else.
__________________
|
07-13-2013, 10:27 AM | #48 | |||
Barghest Barghest Barghe-
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
1. It would have to be RP-worthy. No questions like, "What are you hoping is your next Pokemon...and how will you RP with them? :P" That really doesn't foster much discussion and is a blatant dressing of a different question. A more suitable one might be: "Just recently in the Visionary Glade, Marion's character Coselle who was actually a Banette had her memories erased based on a court order/etc. If one of your Pokemon were to have its memories erased, which one would it be, and how would your trainer and the rest of the team react? Explain as detailed as possible." One can see why this is a better question. It's talking about a specific RP situation, and how your RP would be affected if said situation happened to you. 2. The question must not be able to be answered in "one sentence." In other words, it must be a though-provoking question, one that would generate good responses more than bad ones. This is rather subjective, and of course there might be some who don't put much effort into it, but then again what's to say they will put a lot of effort into other topics as well they might discuss? Not trying to start an argument, but rather trying to show a, in my opinion, better way to deal with the polls than just a blanket ban. Oh, and also, to keep with the spirit of this thread, I should probably do a little RP talk along with this. If I had to list one of my favorite adventures at the moment, it would definitely be my AR adventure. No, its not because it is the only one going at the moment, but because it is raising a lot of moral questions as well. What is my character going to do in a situation like this? When my character first met the And now I'm having whims of giving alignments to my entire squad and putting that in my base. Help me. :P |
|||
07-13-2013, 10:38 AM | #49 | |
Marsh Badge
|
Quote:
(Now a question since this might come up anyway: Isn't line 3 faulty?) Still brilliant though. I'm guessing practice in the Shop-of-All-Trades has paid of? The rhyme also reminds me of the one I got in the AR. It wasn't as much a puzzle as it was a brief explanation of what was going to happen and at least it gave me a clue as to how the labyrinth was built.
__________________
Last edited by Ex-Admiral Insane; 07-13-2013 at 10:45 AM. |
|
07-13-2013, 11:26 AM | #50 |
Volcano Badge
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,143
|
I wont be answering any question that ends in "Explain as detailed as possible" because my answer will be as long or as short as it is needed to be. There's no point in fluffing up an answer just so it can be seen as more detailed than a standard poll answer. I think the point of banning polls wasn't to do with one word answers either, I just don't think the makers of this thread wanted it to turn into the TO where people are taking turns to answer a question without actually forming a discussion.
That being said, half of the discussions that have passed in this thread could have just as easily been brought up in the TO and I'm starting to wonder if there's any point to this thread at all.
__________________
|
Lower Navigation | ||||||
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|