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On to Season 2! Watched Episodes 14, 15, and the first half of 16 before I had to stop to attend to some things. So, real quick, some thoughts --
Episode 14: Spoiler: show Episode 15: Spoiler: show Episode 16 so far: Spoiler: show Sixteen episodes in and I gotta say, I still am not very fond of Nyanko-sensei's voice. ^^; The character is fine, but the voice ... yeesh. ^^; Had I been a hardcore fan of the manga first, as I'm sure some Japanese fans were, I think I'd be really jaded about the anime and be all like "The manga is 10x better! XP" I still haven't scored Natsume Yuujinchou on MyAnimeList, but I think it's safe to say at this point that it's not going to get any higher than a 7/10 from me ever. That could change -- there's always the rest of Season 2 and all of Season 3 to discover -- but from what I'm seeing so far, it seems like Yuki's experience with Natsume Yuujinchou has been very different from mine and that we each come to the table with our personal experiences in life as we sit down to watch this one. For her, it appears to have resonated on a very personal level. For me, it's enjoyable but nothing terribly special. Yuki: "Nothing terribly special"?!? You ... you ... *words caught in throat* I don't mean to say it's bad. ^^; It's fine! But it's ... just sort of fine. From what I've seen so far, anyway. It hasn't changed my world or anything. I'm not getting "MUST ... OWN ... THIS ... @_@" drives.
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The show's not special, but... I personally think that's why it's so special. Hard to explain. It does rehash a lot of the same storylines, but they always make me feel warm and happy and fuzzy regardless. I don't need to be "wow-ed" all the time, sometimes the small acts of kindness are more appreciable. I understand it's not for everyone. From a pure objective standpoint, I'd probably rate it a 7 or even generously an 8. But we all have our preferences. Natsume Yuujinchou just happens to fall in line with mine. The show makes me smile, and that's a win in my book.
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Just wanted you to realize that this is where I got the impression. Didn't want you to think, "Man, he didn't even read what I had to say." Oh, I read it! ^^; That's precisely where my opinion about why you like it so much came from.
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A) I can relate to the story/character. B) The story/character inspires me. The former is more likely to be because of shared past experiences, and while the latter may be affected by them, I don't think self-identification is necessary to admire someone or adopt their creed. If you want to interpret "personal" as incorporating a "change of world views", that's fine. But what I was trying to get at is that I don't particularly feel any special connection to the characters. I don't see myself in them - at most there may be distant reflections. That doesn't stop me from loving them and what they stand for though. Perhaps my experience with Zelda would provide a clearer example. Though I don't feel quite comfortable discussing it openly here (if you really want to hear the whole speech I guess I could give it over Skype). Obviously, there's no way I could associate myself with Link, since he has such a hollow personality. Yet he's my hero, someone I look up to, who did radically change my views once. Natsume, on the other hand, is neither here nor there. What he demonstrates is what I currently believe in now, and already have for a while. He didn't rock my world or anything, he just quietly supports it - maybe even gave it a revitalizing boost when I needed it most. And I approve of that. When I say that "I wish I had encountered [it] earlier", I mean that maybe back then I would've been able to more personally identify with the show and thus take its message to heart. Doubtful it would've been earth-shattering to me even at my lowest point, but who knows. That was then and this is now. No use looking back on what could've been. Besides, the show isn't even that old. Even if it had existed at the time and I'd known about it, other factors would've prevented me from watching it. MY POINT BEING. Natsume Yuujinchou is just a sweet, lighthearted story for anyone who enjoys that kind of thing. You don't have to be a pessimist or a loner looking for ways to cheer yourself up, if that's why you think I liked the show. I just stumbled upon it randomly, grew intrigued since I heard it was good, and now agree with that statement. Others' opinions may vary. Man, this thread wasn't supposed to devolve into another one of Yuki's personal rants™ but I guess it did anyway. >.>; Enough, back to on-topic discussion!
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Welcome back, Natsume!
Like I said in the chat thread, the fourth season really surprised me by opening with a two-part arc - unfortunately, not one of my preferred ones. Meh. OP's visuals make me squee though, and give me major hope for the later episodes. The song itself is back to ho hum ville, though it sounds pretty much as I'd expected from a two-man folk band. ED's cute, reminiscent of season two's closer. Yay snow~ Talon, remember how you told me iSketch thought "igloo" was an animé term? Well, I've seen my first igloo in animé now. XP ^^;
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Oh my goodness it's been a week already?
So many little hnnnng moments this episode. ...Although at this point it sort of feels like the animé is trying to cram in so much saccharine it's starting to get slightly corny. ^^; I like how the show tends to be a bit sweeter than the manga, but there's only so much "d'aw" I can take in one sitting. Wasn't really feeling this supposedly "action-packed" arc last week, but seeing some of the fights animated today got me pretty pumped. Spoiler: show One thing I forgot to mention I did like about last week's episode is they included some insight into Natsume's (and Tanuma's, by proxy) line of reasoning from an early chapter. The finale of the first season was originally told from Tanuma's POV, so it's too bad they had to excise some of his inner monologue and personal analysis of Natsume. Rare to get another outsider's opinion on a main character, so I'm glad to see it finally made its way in somehow. Not only that, but it's no longer just musing to himself since he shares his findings with *spoiler*. Yay for friends and openness and bonding and trust and FEELINGS~ Kinda makes me wonder if they'll refer back to a From the preview, next week's episode is a one-shot, but again not one I was hoping for. It's a major one they skipped so its appearance was inevitable, but I would have preferred to see some of the more recent chapters animated instead. They might be too recent though, unfortunately. ... FEELINGS~
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So I think I've recovered enough from the Another shock to talk about episode 04, which I didn't get a chance to yesterday.
Ha~ What a wonderful episode. I don't get those (manga-readers) who were so excited about last week's story but put down this one before it even aired. I was hoping this might be the first episode of the season, and they'd just ignore the Karu story altogether. I mean, it was cute, I guess? Didn't have much else to say about it though. I did miss the "OMG THEY MULTIPLIED?!" line from Natsume during (I assume) mathmetics class from the manga though. That was pure gold. Unfortunately the subbers either didn't translate for maximum hilarity, or the original phrase itself isn't necessarily a math term in Japanese. Even harder to tell in the animé since they cut out the professor's reaction. If the latter case, major props to the scanlators for recognizing the potential for extreme lulz. Anyway, episode 04. It was great, reminiscent of my old favorite 08 from season one. Which I guess is another example of how NY tends to re-hash storylines with different skins. But I don't mind. The roles are mixed up just enough to feel fresh, and I enjoy seeing different takes. Even though I knew what was to happen - or more often because I knew - this one-shot gave me that slightly misty-eyed, dreamy feeling once again. Also excited to see some nicely animated portions in the beginning, the style of which reminded me of my other favorite episode (10) from season two. Was pretty disappointed by the drop of quality in the OP and first episode. First scene of episode one was a still shot of school letting out? Really? You didn't have enough budget to animate a few students waving and walking? =/ On a final note... Next week's preview. Looks like an animé-only episode. While I agree with some fans' concerns that all these one-shots means the plot isn't actually advancing anywhere, I'm sure we'll get there in due time. If not this season, maybe a season five? But wait... What's this? Spoiler: show I, uh, what. Brain('s Base)... Cannot compute. I'm both wildly curious and nervous to find out what they've decided to introduce into canon. (Please no romance please no romance please no romance) Oh, and a correction about the statement I made regarding episode one: I re-read the manga chapter, and it turns out the throwback reference was originally brought up by Tanuma himself there as well. Still, glad the animé was fnally able to work it in. ... OMG THEY MULTIPLIED?!
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Quadruple-posting, but I found the chapter next week's episode corresponds to. Apparently it was another one of those omake I missed.
Reading it, eh... Not so much looking forward to it. Sure, it sates my fangirl curiosity, but that's just it. It's obviously pandering to the audience by projecting every member of the female banbase who wants to protect poor Natsume, and thus claims she'd understand his weird behavior right away if she were to meet him IRL, onto a fictional character. As much as I'd like to believe that could happen, it stretches my suspension of disbelief. And there's that corny "broken window glass on the inside" explanation... You can do better than that, Midorikawa-sensei. Still, since it's such a short chapter, perhaps the animé will be able to add some things to spice it up and hopefully make it better. Though speaking of animé vs. manga comparisons, forgot one other thing I forgot to remark on regarding episode 02 and why I felt the animé was trying too hard this time to make it sappy. The final scene with the sweater was in the manga, only since it took place during summer it was Shigeru's kimono instead. The pinky promise wasn't in the manga, which was the last straw I felt pushed the entire episode over the edge into "gag me with a spoon" territory. Was disappointed to find they focused so much on that cutesie-wootsie gesture instead of the more subtle part that really made this scene touching in the first place: Saying "it'll fit you next year" implies Natsume will still be around by then, a notion that still seems to pleasantly stun him, judging by his expression in the manga. They just glance over this conversation in the animé by having it fade out to the next scene. One more point in favor of the manga: Emo!Natsume's "fringe" is totally more adorable. -^^-;
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This week's episode... Was fine. I'm glad the show shifted the focus from the girl's rabid fangirlism in the second half (Lol @ Natori's poster in her bedroom though, nice touch) and offered an explanation for what was going on with Natsume ayakashi-wise at the time... Though I'm disappointed the plot thread they came up with was terribly uninspired. If Midorikawa is guilty of re-hashing plotlines, the animé writers are no better for following her lead in this case. It was just a mish-mash of several concepts we've seen before. Shame, they had some nice original ideas last season. Why they felt the need to play it safe and stick to the formula this time I have no idea.
Spoiler: show A lot to say about an episode I don't really care about... The only reason I'm being so critical at this point is because I'm starting to feel the pressing anxiety others have had that we're not going to get as much hoped for plot development this season. If this storyline had showed up in an earlier season (when I had the fortune of knowing there would definitely be future episodes to look forward to), I could've mildly enjoyed it and moved on, or waved it off if I was as impatient to see more exciting stuff as I am now. With this, I'm increasingly aware of the time crunch, and I wish they would've passed this side-story up if it meant providing space for a more interesting arc. Anyway. Next week's preview. YES. Now that's what I'm talking about. Oh, this is going to be so much win. X3 They struggled to squeeze Nyanko-sensei in this episode so they were hard pressed to find a hilarious line of his to quote, thus I was planning to provide an equally lukewarm conclusion, but the opportunity's too good to pass up: ALMOST-FABULOUS HAIR FLIP WTF. ^ When I find a gif on Tumblr I will edit it in. One's bound to pop up eventually. In the meantime, have some roses. Edit- Forgot to mention I read the latest chapter today as well. Yay more Reiko development!
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On a whim, I watched Episode 18 "The Tree of Promise" today. It was pretty good. I had one problem with it, but aside from that, it was pretty good.
Spoiler: show Intrigued by the girl we saw in the sneak peek for Episode 19. However, given what Yuki's mentioned on Skype about Season 4, and given what all I already have seen with my own two eyes, I'm not going to grow too excited or too attached. Sadly, it seems like Natsume Yuujinchou is remarkably episodic and that few characters are recurring. Even the ones who are (e.g. Hinoe or the little fox spirit) only show up every once in a while and don't get all that much development per episode. But yeah. Taki, is it? She seems interesting. To be honest, seeing her in the OP for Season 2, I mistook her for Reiko. The resemblance is striking.
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Huzzah! The chain has been broken!
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Regarding season 4/later manger chapters: Spoiler: show Been waiting to talk about season 4 until the current arc concluded. Still dont have too much to say at the end, but I guess thats because Ive read the manga. =x Episode 06: BAHAHA. This was as great as expected, and then some. Loved all the humorous parts they added in. Poor Sasada. ^^; Spoiler: show Episode 07: A little rushed, but good. Spoiler: show A lot of manga readers have been worrying incessantly that the end of this chapter created an awkward divide between Tanuma and Natsume. To be honest, I never sensed anything of the sort. If anything, I thought their relationship was strengthened by it. Yes, there was an outburst of angst and self-blame on both sides, but I didnt think it would have such a lasting impact as fans seem to suggest. I believe theyre blowing things way out of proportion, but maybe theyre just recognizing something Im not. (Still wonder where they got the idea that Reiko was found dead under a tree Perhaps there are some other chapters Ive missed.) Next weeks preview: Uh What? A Nanase backstory filler? x.X Really? I sure do hope this means were getting a season five. =/ Nyah nyah~
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Watched Episode 19 late last night. What a mistake! One of the best episodes yet ... and it was a two-parter too! ;_; Looking forward to watching Episode 20 soon.
I really love Taki. She's very sweet, physically attractive, and she can even see youkai (with assistance, admittedly, but still) and share in Natsume's adventures that way. Would really love to see Natsume and Taki hook up but obviously the show isn't going to go in that direction,
In case Yuki watched this on CrunchyRoll (as I am doing) or with somebody who ripped the CR streams, thought I'd throw out there that when Taki says her ancestors were "Onmyouji," they left that in and capitalized the O as if it were a proper noun. No idea why, although maybe it's because the occupational duties of onmyouji were covered in the West by various people and not usually one and the same person. Spoiler: show So with all this stated, on to Episode 20!
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Although to be honest, I find her far more gorgeous in the manga. -^^-; While I couldn't understand what made her stand out initially, seeing her manga design for the first time made my own jaw drop. She is quite stunningly attractive. o.o; It's the hair, I think. It's got such nice volume, which also helps the bangs to complement her facial structure, instead of sticking out awkwardly. Shame it looks so flat and dull by comparison in the animé. =/ Quote:
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LOL. Loading up Episode 20 on CrunchyRoll, one sees this near the very top of the user comments column:
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Again, hair too straight in the animé. =| The difference is much clearer in the manga. ^^; XP
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Was trying to find a manga picture of Taki Tooru. Figured there'd be one on the fan wikia but I didn't see anything. Clicked around some (no spoilers, don't worry), and then saw the list of episodes with corresponding broadcast dates. And noticed this pattern:
Yuki: Don't say it! ;_; ... that won't end until Summer 2014. Yuki: *The Scream face* For your sake, I hope I'm wrong, but I just thought that I'd point this out to you. You were mentioning the other day how you were hoping that there'd be a Season 5, given how they're wasting so many precious Season 4 episode slots. Well, whether there'll even be a Season 5 or not, I don't know, but assuming that there is one, it may not be out for a number of years. Anyway, halfway through Episode 20. Go ahead and respond to this though so I don't double-post with my Episode 20 thoughts. XP ^^;
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Yeah, I glanced around Google images before class to see if I could pull up a nice shot, but there were hardly any manga pictures. I'll look for an actual page when I get back (gonna grab some dinner first).
I'm aware the first two seasons aired close to each other as well. I'm prepared to see the show possibly go on hiatus at the conclusion of Shi, and will be content to follow the manga in the meantime. So long as they at least animate one specific arc this season, I'll be satisfied even if the story draws to a close.
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Episode 20 was good. I really liked everyone's roles in this one. It was also interesting to ... Spoiler: show The sneak peek for the next episode looked like Boresville, but the comments at the top of the page for it were positively glowing, so who knows. If I knew or had good reason to believe that Taki was going to be a regular part of the cast now and was going to show up onscreen as much as Nyanko-sensei, I'd be jumping for the remote control to go ahead and watch Episode 21. But as it is ... it's probably going to take a little push to get me to watch 21. In the meantime, I think I might circle back around and polish off Shizune's route in Katawa Shoujo.
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Oh? No comment about how...
Spoiler: show So, trying to access an English scanlation site just gave my computer yet another dang Thus, the following example pages are in Chinese, but it probably doesn't make much of a difference since you saw the episode anyway. XP Taki's first meeting with Natsume (She's blushing because she blurted out his name by mistake, and you know why that's bad XP) Taki taking off her hat (Her hair looks soft and natural, not stiff) Taki smiling Taki in a kimono, hair done up Taki in a kimono, hair down (One of my favorite illustrations of her - adorable expression, and the outfit really accentuates her feminine figure, compared to the baggy coat or uniform) Sorry for the low resolution on the last one, but I dare not look for a larger version. =x Btw, the manga is actually more suggestive towards shipping between Natsume and Taki. For example, when Natsume moves to protect her from the youkai, he covers her with his body rather than just blocking from the front. I think the look in her eyes speaks for itself. I guess the trade-off is that Natsume doesn't collapse in her arms after banishing the youkai, but that felt more incidental. Here he's clearly her knight in shining armor. ^~ (Plus she can't even see the youkai coming yet either...)
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No comment on that simply because you know it's gotta be temporary, (a) because they tell you as much in the episode (even if it's only just them being optimistic) and (b) because you know there's no way the author'd permanently do that to him in the middle of Season 2. It was interesting, though. The scene with him in his bedroom calling out to Madara and then the camera shows how Madara is occupying the entire room was really sad. Probably more sad for Madara than for anybody else.
Y'know, you get more viruses than anyone else I know. FYI, it is not typical to get three viruses in less than two months. This coming from a guy who goes into the seediest sides of the Internet on a daily basis. I don't know what it is that you're doing wrong but you've got to figure it out. Manga Taki doesn't really look like Anime Reiko, no ... but (1) I don't have an image of Manga Reiko to compare Manga Taki against, and (2) none of the characters look especially distinct or well-detailed in the manga. Now I see why you value the anime's existence so much. Like me with both Rozen Maiden and Minamike, here you are, a fan of a franchise that (no offense to the mangaka) isn't all that well drawn and really benefits from the transition to television. Speaking of the manga's art, holy cow 'n' lol at Natsume's snake-slit eyes! He looks positively evil! Particularly in the one you linked and called "Taki smiling." Just look at him! XD (Also, the image of Taki right below him is particularly illustrative of what I just finished saying last paragraph. Those eyes ... this manga honestly looks like rakugaki (scribbles) you'd see coming out of an eromanga circle. Hell, I've seen rakugaki that looked better than this. ^^; ) Yuki: *kicks Talon* Quit making fun of my manga! *hugs manga* Hey, it's nothing personal. I'm a huge fan of Minami-ke, I own the first four volumes (and would own all the others if only I could afford to ...), and yet just look at it. ^^; (Although in my franchise's defense, your franchise's manga art is ten times worse. *kicked* Ow! )
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Anyway, lol, don't get me wrong. The art kinda sucks, especially in the early chapters. ^^; Nyanko-sensei looks especially weird, not cute at all. =< Regardless, I find Taki's manga design more appealing than her animé counterpart's. As with many series, the art has gradually improved a bit, at least to the point where you might call it decent. XD There are even a couple illustrations I liked enough to save (though I'm having trouble finding them now amidst my huge folder ^^; ), such as this and this. The lines are much crisper and somewhat more organized, and look how adorable the kitty is now that he no longer looks like a misshapen dumpling. <3 Quote:
Finding images of Reiko, particularly a good example, is kinda difficult since she doesn't appear all that often in the manga. Ah, here's one from a recent chapter. You know, I never noticed the resemblance between Natsume and his grandmother until reading the manga, honestly. Then at some point I realized it really was the same face and bang part, just with longer sides. o.o; Now cannot unsee.
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Episode 21. As predicted, it wasn't as entertaining as previous episodes. As
I enjoyed Natsume's meditation on Nyanko-sensei's virtual immortality and what that means for Madara as the people he comes to love vanish from this world in the relative blink of an eye. It's something he's thought about lightly before but in this episode he really gave it some serious thought. When Madara told Natsume, "You coulda been immortal, XP" it almost made you wonder whether Madara was kinda secretly hoping that Natsume might stick around for longer than ~50 years. Poor guy. =\
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Episode 22:
Once again, Natsume Yuujinchou surprises me with it's "it's so boring ... and yet at the same time I keep wanting to say things like 'This was a really good episode!' or 'This was neat!'" character. I have no idea what it is about the show that makes me feel this way. You'd think I'd either be all for it or all against it. Instead, I find myself in this really weird, internally-conflicted setting where part of me feels like Natsume Yuujinchou is nothing special but the other part of me feels like each episode, consistently, is a cute little ghost story. Spoiler: show Two episodes without Taki, and I'm already feeling the same bummed-out longing for her character I was feeling for the fox last season. Episode 23: Wow. This was a great episode! Of course, it figures it would be: it's a Natsume Reiko episode, so you know it's bound to be good. And of course it is. Totally. Spoiler: show Episode 24: What's this? Two episodes in a row that I'm going to call "great" and not complain about? What is this madness!? Natori episodes are good. Natsume Reiko episodes are better. But a Natori episode with a dash of Reiko in it? The introduction of a new villain? Natsume learning more about exorcisms and sealings? This is the best! Spoiler: show The quality of those last two episodes juuuuuuuuuuust barely promotes Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou from a "6 - Fair" to a "7 - Good" on MyAnimeList. I hope the author keeps it up. Not holding my breath, of course, but ... *sees sneak peek for Episode 25* TAKI!
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Didn't reply to episode 21 since I wanted to keep one of your posts in between mine next Monday, but can't resist this content. XP
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