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11-17-2011, 04:29 PM | #303 |
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And now my sig from 3˝ years ago should make perfect sense to you. What it's depicting, and why I thought it would make for such an awesome sig. (Was really hoping it'd draw more people into watching Kaiji with us. Sadly, no one else did. )
I think this was one of the most epic moments I've ever seen in an anime. Will probably never forget the way that one suit says ... Spoiler: show Now you see Kaiji ramping up the stakes, in a big way. And now you see the beginnings of something I'd alluded to in an earlier post and which Doppel worried was me spoilering you outright. I don't think it was; and now that we've reached 20 and you've yet to comment on it, I'm hopeful that I was right and you remain blissfully unaware of what this epic scene symbolizes for the overall story and for Kaiji-kun himself. In any event, I guess we will see -- and I will comment on this more later once you reach the final arc of Season 1. As for the questions you asked ... Spoiler: show In other news, calling him "the chairman" feels so weird. You don't learn his name until the final episode, but it's such a powerfully memorable scene -- or at least it was for us UPN Kaiji fans -- that you never forget it. It feels like we've always known it. And I guess, three and a half years later, it's easy to see why one might feel this way. But yeah: out of respect for your naivety , I'm going to try and hold off on using his name until you get to the final episode.
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11-28-2011, 09:10 AM | #305 |
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What do you mean, "Kaiji's original CV"? Hasn't Kaiji always had the same voice actor in the anime?
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11-28-2011, 09:43 AM | #306 |
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Nope. Kaiji himself was first voiced in a series of gambling games from SEGA (originally, I thought they were Pachinko games, but the full blown version of The Bog features no Kaiji characters) as seen here.
Hagiwara got the job after his excellent portrayal of Akagi - which also happened to be his breakout role. Kazuki Yao is a pretty prolific CV, so I don't think he took it too hard. He's really good with over-dramatic guys with pure souls but his villains are a lot more sinister. CVs I cannot stand as villains: Tomokazu Seki Hikaru Midorikawa Akio Ohtsuka Nobuyuki Hiyama Kazuki Yao almost makes this list. Everyone here except Hiyama pisses me off when I hear them as enemies, which one could interpret as them being ideal for villains. Hiyama is just too cool to stay a villain, though. When he starts screaming, one wants to switch to his side no matter how nasty he's being.
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Talked to Yuki briefly about this on Skype the other day. She's made it through Episode 22 and has seen the epic scene which comes in between the two final arcs (or caps off the E-Card arc, take your pick). Just four more episodes before Kaiji Season 1 is over for her. I'm really very impressed -- very impressed -- that she's managed to stick to the one episode a week schedule all this time. It either means that she's not dying to watch Kaiji XP or else that she has willpower of steel. Probably somewhere in between those two , but in any event, great job replicating our Fall 2007+Winter 2008 experience of watching the show one episode a week.
Yuki, if you do a Google Image search for "Tonegawa," you get a Japanese scientist who won the Nobel Prize in Medicine. But change the search string to "Tonegawa Kaiji" (no quotes) and you'll get our Tonegawa. That stated ... LOL at how spoilery it is. Not for you it isn't, so by all means, click right here and lol away at the image results, but for unownmew or anyone else who hasn't gotten through Episode 22 yet, consider that link strictly off-limits.
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12-07-2011, 05:15 PM | #308 |
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That figurine is hilarious.
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12-07-2011, 09:18 PM | #310 |
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Because Tonegawa is admirable.
A lot of the characters in Kaiji are garden variety scum. They have some caveats, but most of them are half-wits who crack under pressure. Ohtsuki and Ichijou in S2 fit this bill pretty well. Tonegawa's intellect reflected his position in Teiai, and his pride was something equally rare, especially in a show that emphasized how humans slither when they're fudged hard. Kaiji hasn't defeated an opponent of that caliber since the first season.
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Found this at the end of a doujin some time soon after you guys started watching Kaiji. Could not upload it because it'd be too spoilery what with you guys just then starting Kaiji, but now that you've seen the event, I think it's safe to share. You'll have to admit, it was pretty random to see this at the very end of an erodoujin.
(work safe, home safe, person looking over your shoulder safe) Spoiler: show
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Thought/speculation about episode 22+ to come later in the week.
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It was completely random. I don't even remember which doujin it was in, simply that, out of the blue, that showed up on the final page.
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Gonna start up Kaiji 23 in a bit. Talon asked me to write my thoughts on where I believe the show's theme is heading, so I'll give it a shot:
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12-16-2011, 03:32 PM | #316 |
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I felt the theme of the series is that humans are selfish and fearful by nature, and so are easy to anticipate and manipulate. Individuals like Hyoudou with skills can rise in power by exploiting them, and human progress was only made because of this exploitation. A real social darwinian scheme of predator/prey interaction.
Kaiji himself is contending with this idea - he's at the interstice between the two worlds of "predator" and "prey". He possesses a unique nature. Kaiji has the skills of a predator, but thinks and lives in the world of prey. He believes people are fundamentally good and honourable, but is consistently frustrated by the reality that many of those he bands together with aren't like that. Hence his moniker, "The Suffering Pariah". This is contrasted with "The True Pariah" Akagi, whose skills alienated him from conventional wants/needs, so he was always searching for a satisfaction through a test of his abilities. I feel this is also the big contrast between Hyoudou and Washizu - Hyoudou isn't going to give up his materialism for his conceptual passions. He's a bit more mysterious than Washizu in that we don't know what his interests are or what drives him. Washizu was simply bored with power, and looked for the next big rush. But his resolve wasn't grounded in trying to test his abilities, and is why at his core he's as scared and selfish as any of the people in Kaiji, but far richer. He's only convergently similar to Akagi, but that didn't mean he couldn't provide Akagi with the match of his life.
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*poke*
So what's going on with Kaiji, guys? Are you through 24 yet? 25? You're almost there! Eager to hear what your guys' thoughts are. I'm sure there will be lots to discuss once you reach the end of Episode 26.
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I'm still where I was last time (episode 23). XP Will watch 24 when I get back to the apartment. I think unownmew's on 25, he may have finished the series already.
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I think you can marathon the second half. That's what I'm going to do~
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Feel free to watch Season 2 at your own leisurely pace. While you won't experience the same near-heart-attack-inducing moments that we did last summer should you choose to not watch only one episode a day or even a week, you've already earned your Scout badge by watching Kaiji S1 one episode/week on average. Mission: Accomplished! And job well done.
I'll hold off on saying what I want to say because Yuki still hasn't finished the show and we know how she is with spoiler boxes. But yeah. Glad you've enjoyed the first season. If what I charted for excitement level has also been what you've experienced, then -- given what I charted for the next two arcs -- you know you're in for some good times.
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Oh, a Scout badge? Why thank you. Would I get a Master Badge if I continue with the schedule? :3
For my thoughts as this matter draws to a close, I'd just like to say "Kaiji!! You are Absolutely Crazy!! But thank you for taking me on this harrowing yet thoroughly enjoyable journey. I can say, not a moment spent here feels wasted. I salute you for your losses, and rejoice in your gains. Thank you again, and Good Luck in the future!" *Bows out* |
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Finished Kaji!
Spoiler: show In the end, all I can say is "ouch, man". ='( Hopefully season two has a happier conclusion? May continue the weekly schedule from now on since I'm used to it. Though I might casually marathon when I've nothing else to do.
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