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Old 03-14-2019, 02:17 PM   #1
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Do you like President Trump?

He's ok. He tries hard to make things work.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:48 PM   #2
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:05 PM   #3
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He's a clown.

Equal parts interesting and cringey.

His presidency has been very memorable, for better or worse.
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:15 AM   #4
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He's fine. Not great, not awful.
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Old 03-15-2019, 03:12 PM   #5
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:44 AM   #6
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Dude's manufactured some bullshit to try to declare a state of emergency so he can go around Congress to build his useless waste of money wall. Say what you will about Obama and executive orders, this is a new low.
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Old 03-16-2019, 04:00 AM   #7
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I appreciate the vast amount of comedic material that could not have been created if Donald Trump wasn’t president.
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Old 03-16-2019, 05:43 AM   #8
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I appreciate the vast amount of comedic material that could not have been created if Donald Trump wasn’t president.
I think Dubya was funnier.

But in retrospect, he was also a lot more dangerous, and arguably more incompetent, so a lot of that comedy seems darker once you know the context.
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Old 03-16-2019, 03:58 PM   #9
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Dubya is startlingly intelligent. Trump is, unfortunately, not very smart. I live in DC and have friends who have interacted with President Trump directly, and they don't have nice things to say about him. None of his legitimate defenders work with him personally or have ever really met him; those who have, like Graham and McConnell, are simply allying with him for political purposes. I have no reason to believe my contacts are lying. They are not politically motivated or biased. In general, people's positive views of the President are sourced from those claiming he is concealing how smart he is. Think about it this way. If he was really that smart, and concealing his intelligence from the world, why would he talk so much about how smart he is? Wouldn't it be a wiser choice to say nothing and allow your enemies to be wrong?

In terms of his presidency, Trump has a strange duality of being a weak and strong president. He is weak because he isn't able to get things done, but he is strong in terms of the political power he holds. His ideas and opinions, like those of the people he surrounds himself with, are destructive and harmful, and are used to hurt people. Most of the positive things that have happened as a result of Trump's presidency are external to the government, or benefit only the very wealthy. As we enter a time where capitalism will begin to break down thanks to automation and technological progress, we needed a President who would commit to addressing problems like the justice system, income inequality, and climate change. Instead, President Trump has mostly focused his efforts on his own image and blocking immigration from nonwhite countries.

We will need to work harder in 2020 than we would have needed to work in 2016. The changes we need to make to society will be sharper and faster than they would otherwise have been. This is the consequence of not making essential changes.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:46 PM   #10
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Dubya is startlingly intelligent. Trump is, unfortunately, not very smart. I live in DC and have friends who have interacted with President Trump directly, and they don't have nice things to say about him. None of his legitimate defenders work with him personally or have ever really met him; those who have, like Graham and McConnell, are simply allying with him for political purposes. I have no reason to believe my contacts are lying. They are not politically motivated or biased. In general, people's positive views of the President are sourced from those claiming he is concealing how smart he is. Think about it this way. If he was really that smart, and concealing his intelligence from the world, why would he talk so much about how smart he is? Wouldn't it be a wiser choice to say nothing and allow your enemies to be wrong?
If you claim Dubya was intelligent, that means that his actions in office where openly malicious. Ethnic profiling, the border fence and unsavory corrupt appointees and were Trumpian before Trump.

Never forget that Dubya used 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq, which secured infrastructure contracts for Halliburton (of which Dick Cheney was the former CEO). His deregulation of banks lead to the subprime mortgage market that led to the financial meltdown in 2008. His faith-based initiatives put federal money in the hands of Christian outreach.

Either he is a moron, as is commonly stereotyped, or he's the ultimate evil.
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Old 03-17-2019, 08:57 PM   #11
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He doesn't have to be the ultimate evil or an idiot to not be a good president, and not everything done in the Bush admin was directly the fault of Bush. He's certainly responsible for it, and ought to be held accountable, but it doesn't mean he went out there and said "let's fuck over black people," you know?

He was a very intelligent president, but had very specific ideas and opinions as a result of who he was and where he stood. I just wish the stupid Florida bullshit with the popular vote hadn't happened. Gore should have been president, and we're in so many messes because the election was all but cheated away from him.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:37 AM   #13
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Old 03-18-2019, 12:10 PM   #14
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:04 PM   #15
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My thoughts on Trump: I'm still living in the country, and the stupidly pointless wall had to be crowdfunded in addition to using up tax money. Not something subtle like selling bonds or upping a minor tax in the corner, straight-up crowdfunded! And he shut down the government for said crowdfunding campaign, thus keeping a multitude of employees from actually getting a paycheck, as if the borderline snake oil maneuver wasn't enough! It's kinda nuts, really.
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