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Old 03-14-2016, 06:31 PM   #2001
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How do the Rock and Steel defense boost SCs stack with each other? And with individual SCs? See: Shieldon
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:59 AM   #2002
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Can we finalise the results of the Contest, since my foe forfeited and all? It'd be great for the league to finally be able to say a Contest finally finished.

Totally "not" biased by the fact it makes me the technical victor and that I am currently ahead on scoring. But it'd be nice for us to be able to wrap up a Contest for once.
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Old 03-18-2016, 06:40 AM   #2003
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We're trying to prod someone into finishing it don't worry.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:22 AM   #2004
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Oh no that's on me I am just waiting for Apollo to respond to the last ditch "please don't leave" PM I sent him.

Charm's asked me to finalise it so if Apollo doesn't come back by tonight GMT I will officiate.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:27 AM   #2005
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Have it end the round like BP et al do?
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:03 AM   #2006
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Austo and myself noticed an inconsistency while talking on Skype, that being the description of a C grade ref (possibly others too):

The Referee List describes C grade ranks as "A thorough understanding of the rules and able to state what happens with clarity. May referee any match, excepting a Grand Melee or realistic battles, but require permission for Gym matches. May referee up to 10 matches in total."

Announcements thread describes C grade as "A thorough understanding of the rules and able to state what happens with clarity. May ref any match excepting a Grand Melee or realistic battles. May ref up to 10 matches in total."

Which of these are we to follow? Assuming the latter for some reason.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:31 AM   #2007
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Eh yanno I think we can get away with lifting the permission thing. Generally, people can object to members reffing Gym Matches if they don't want them to and they're almost always arranged in advance as it is so I'll just say that the second is correct.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:33 AM   #2008
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Eh yanno I think we can get away with lifting the permission thing. Generally, people can object to members reffing Gym Matches if they don't want them to and they're almost always arranged in advance as it is so I'll just say that the second is correct.
Can we work on a stipulation for ungraded refs as well? At least for the ones that had a previous grade.
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Old 03-20-2016, 10:18 AM   #2009
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No.

He said firmly with no power to back it up.
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Old 03-20-2016, 10:24 AM   #2010
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He said firmly with no power to back it up.
Kush, Dave is busy and there is absolutely no point for me not being able to pick up matches in progress or ref gym matches, unless the trainers themselves are apprehensive.
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Old 03-20-2016, 10:29 AM   #2011
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We have an idea of how to deal with retests that puts less pressure on testers and we'll get back to you about it when we can find a way to make it work easily.
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:26 PM   #2012
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Eh yanno I think we can get away with lifting the permission thing. Generally, people can object to members reffing Gym Matches if they don't want them to and they're almost always arranged in advance as it is so I'll just say that the second is correct.
Honestly this still falls pretty heavily in the same realm as having to ask for permission in the first place. I think what really just needs to happen is that if a C grade posts in the Ref Queue stating that they're asking for permission another ref can't swoop in and take it until the Gym Leader posts saying they were denied permission. A lot of refs are incredibly overeager when it comes to reffing literally anything, and will post matches they pick up instantly, and it's kinda not cool at that point to tell them "Sorry I don't want you as a ref."

/literal exact reasoning I gave for when we implemented the permission thing anyway
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:28 PM   #2013
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When we used to let people do that it led to a slew of people saying YOU CAN'T REF THIS ONLY I CAN REF THIS and a lot of matches not getting picked up because the approval took a long time.

It was really irritating. Are you really sure you want that?
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Would it benefit us to have Gym Matches always require permission?
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:32 PM   #2015
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The simple answer is just put a short time limit on how long people have to actually tell people no. If they don't say no within that time period, the C grade can have it.

As for people being shitty little shits... tell them to pull their heads out of their own asses. It's always been first come first serve and this system does not change that.

Always requiring permission is just a good way to have people go "No I don't like X, they can't ref my shit." even if said person is B or A grade. Granted I don't see that happening overly frequently but it'd definitely be a thing. Also it'd just be hella slower to have to have a certified quality ref have to wait around for things.
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:39 PM   #2016
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The stipulations should be free flowing, dependent on the gym leader and the trainer partaking in the match. I would prefer that nitpicky stipulations be left up to the individuals involved. I would assume that many people are apprehensive at having a B- who will never ref the match, over a C+ doing a decent job, and willing to listen to criticism when needed. Sneaze is the perfect sin of this type of behavior; he is great at reffing, just highly unreliable.
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:41 PM   #2017
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Maybe instead of having them ask, give the C grades a timeframe after which they can take the match, it would be easier than everyone asking permission something like 3 days it would allow for the queue to move and not get clogged with posts stating awaiting approval every time a new match goes in
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:04 PM   #2018
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Synchronoise is Psychic type, and we have written it to be effective against Psychic/dark types which is different to how the games treat it. This is good and we should maintain this status quo for reasons that don't need to be stated.

However it does mean I've accidentally made Umbreon ridiculous against dual typed stuff that would otherwise be weak to Psychic; can we please clarify that Synchronoise will not deal SE damage against Drapion, Scrafty etc.?
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[Ghost]: Ghost-type Pokémon fight more enthusiastically at night, though are not put off by fighting in the day, and can see in the dark. Ghosts are resistant to curses and curses imposed on them will last for a shorter time and be less potent. Their fear inducing attacks are more effective than those used by other Pokémon. Ghost types can be poisoned, unless stated otherwise. Ghost-types are not fully immune to Normal, Fighting or typeless attacks as in the games, taking neutral damage, but some may change their state in order to reduce damage from physical moves (see Ghost Pokémon information for details).
Immune to Poison: Banette, Litwick, Shedinja, Spiritomb, Rotom, Honedge, Yamask, Golurk, Drifloon
Could the bolded bit be reworded slightly please? I highly doubt that any of these lines apart from Honedge's are completely immune to Poison moves, and that's what it looks like at a quick glance.
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:20 PM   #2021
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That was a note in my draft version which was never edited out. That should be clarified though I would hope nobody interprets it that way.
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:28 PM   #2022
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I for one like the idea of a niche move screwing objectively good Pokémon
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>Synchronoise

Yeah I've had that concern for a while but this is not the thread for those things!

>Poison

That is really more of an individual SC thing and should be deleted from the type SC.
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How do split evolutions and Equiall work?

The way I'm thinking it does is an Eevee being whatever type it wants in a equiall2+ match.
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It's a really obnoxious loophole but we can't really force people to commit to an evolution branch. For now I'll let it be but we'll revisit if we have to. Just don't be a dick about it and it should be OK.
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