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Old 09-24-2012, 06:09 PM   #176
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U want me to bump up the accuracy a little bit too?
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:02 AM   #177
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:38 PM   #178
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Here is a tm/hm/mt list if anyone is interested
Hack Tms/Hms/Mts
1-2 Normal: slash, hyper voice
3-4 Fighting: vacuum wave, dynamic punch
5-6 Rock: rock smash, rock slide
7-8 Ground: mud shot, earthquake
9-10 Steel: iron tail, rollout
11-12 Water: Hydro pump, water spout
13-14 Ice: icy wind, ice beam
15-16 Fire: flamethrower, heat wave
17-18 Grass: leaf blade, razor leaf
19-20 Electric: thunderbolt, zap cannon
21-22 Bug: signal beam, silver wind
23-24 Poison: sludge bomb, acid
25-26 Psychic: psychic, Psywave
27-28 Ghost: shadow ball, astonish
29-30 Dark: thief, knock off
31-32 Flying: twister, aerial ace
33-34 Dragon: dragon claw, dragon rage
35 toxic
36 hypnosis
37 thunder wave
38 will o wisp
39-41 elemental punches
42-44 elemental hyper beams
45 hyper beam
46 swords dance
47 calm mind
48 agility
49 baton pass
50 protect

Hms:
1 cut
2 fly
3 surf
4 strength
5 flash
6 rock smash
7 ice climb
8 dive

Mts: (all are modded to have hyper beam effect)
Sheer cold
Fissure
Thunder
Focus punch
Aeroblast
Poison fang
Psycho boost
Aincent power
Megahorn
Shadow punch
Crunch
Doom desire
Outrage

And to make it easier every Pokemon will be able to learn all of these
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:22 PM   #179
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>All modded to have Hyper Beam effect
...You say that like Hyper Beam is any good at all. I mean, it does have some use ingame (which is what hacks primarily are), but... A lot of those moves are much better with their normal effects.

The last line about every pokemon learning every TM is what really throws me off, though. That takes away the unique movepools of pokemon, which makes them less distinguished from eachother. In other words, the only pokemon that will be used will be those excessively overspecialized to their roles, while all others are just going to be outclassed.


Then again, I might be biased. And making pokemon balanced takes... ungodly amounts of time. So, I guess I can't really blame you either way. XD
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:27 PM   #180
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I'm also editing the base stats to be more even. I do all this so that everyone can use their favorites and not have your luvdiscs squashed by a certain metagross.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:52 PM   #181
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But even then you will have unbalance, because some typing are better than others.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:59 PM   #182
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I think it's already clear that biggggg5 is not making a Pokémon hack that tickles Kindrindra's fancy. So instead of trying to get him to make one which does (and would very probably not tickle his own), you may as well leave him be and sit his hack out. ^^; I agree with you, Kind, that it's dumb to give all 600+ Pokémon stats of 100 or 120 across the board. But that isn't dumb to everybody. Some people really like that. Some people really like the idea of Pokémon choice being purely cosmetic. "Wow my Gen3 Sableye is now a god because he has the same defensive stats as Kingdra and the same offensive stats as Celebi and man oh man we are going to PWN! " This is a hack for the Gen3 Sableye fans, for the Gen3 Delibird fans, and so on. This is clearly not a hack for the "the good Pokémon are s'posed to be Skarmory, Blissey, Alakazam, Magneton, Sceptile, Gengar," dun duh dun dun dun down the line repeating the RuSa metagame leaderboard.

Look at it this way: if he makes the game his way (with all Pokémon being equal) and loves it, good for him. If not, he'll learn why it doesn't work and maybe come back to you later, at that time, for some ideas. Either way, I say let him try it his way first. You've got plenty of other hacks you can play which care about preserving the metagame hierarchy. You can allow fans of shitmon this one hack which says "trololol Sunkern is now as good as Mewtwo."
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:55 PM   #183
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Thanks talon. This hack is really mostly for me I just posted here cuz I thought you guys would like it too. But ultimately it is for me.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:59 AM   #184
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:28 AM   #185
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This is not dead I promise! I will have it complete once I get a new computer so for now I am just compiling the changes I wish to make. First I need a second type for the treeko line. Any ideas?
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:58 AM   #186
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:20 AM   #187
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Alright. I also need to know what moves should be changed. I have the hms planned. And I have a few Tms figured out but I want to know what you guys want changed.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:17 AM   #188
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Change list

Here are the changes I plan on making. Let me know if you guys think I need to add anything else. It will be in the first post too.

Changes
Tms/Hms/Mts

Tms:
14: silver wind bug p95
21: false swipe normal p 95
39: rock slide rock p95$

Hms:
7 ice climb ice p95

Type changes
Kanto
Char-line: fire/dragon
Blastoise: water/steel
Butterfree: bug/psychic
Arbok: poison/dark
Vulpix&ninetails: fire/psychic
Venomoth: poison/psychic
Ducks': water/psychic
Geo line: rock/fighting
Haunter: pure ghost
Gengar: ghost dark
Gyarados: water/dragon
Porygons: electric/psychic
Dragonite: pure dragon


Johto
Megainium: grass/psychic
Typhlosion: fire/ground
Feraligator: water/dark
Ledian: bug/fighting
Marill line: water/ice
Sudowuddo: rock/grass
Dunsparce: normal/ground
Lugia: water/flying

Hoenn
Sceptile: grass/dragon
Masqurien: bug/water
Slaking: normal/fighting
Nosepass: rock/electric
Volbeat/illimuse: bug/ electric
Trapinch: bug/ ground
Flygon: bug/ dragonp
Glalie: ice/dark
Huntail: water/dark
Gorebyss: water/psychic

Pokemon ability changes

Fire type starters: intimidate/drought
Water type starters: drizzle/swift swim
Grass type starters: effect spore/liquid ooze
Voltorb&electrode: levitate/speed boost
Weedle line: poison point
Caterpie line: natural cure
Pidgey line: cloud nine
Spearow line: early bird
Zubat line: speed boost
Meowth line: limber/Pickup
Duck line: synchronize/ own tempo
Mankey line: huge power/ intimidate
Magnemite line: levitate/ magnet pull (watch out for Wattson)
Grimer line: liquid ooze/limber
Exegg line: Serene grace/trace
Hitmon line: pure power
Tangela: limber/ suction cups
Horsea line: poison point/water absorb
Elekid line: volt absorb/speed boost
Eevee: color change
Articuno: cloud nine
Zapdos: volt absorb
Moltres: flash fire
Dratini line: cute charm
Mew/mewtwo: synchronize/trace
Chinchou line: volt absorb/water absorb
Yanma: speed boost always
Misdreavous: trace/ shadow tag
Unown: huge power/ pure power
Octillary: drizzle
Stantler: intimidate/synchronize
Smeargle: pressure/trace
Legendary beasts: fire/electric/water absorb
Tar-line: sand stream
Poochyena: cute charm
Wurmple: poison point
Sil/Cascoon: shed skin
Beautifly: shield dust
Dustox: intimidate
Sableye: synchronize/compoundeyes
Volbeat/illumise: volt absorb/swarm
Wailmer/lord: water absorb/thick fat
Absol: hyper cutter

Move changes
Silver wind (bug): hits both opponents, [power=95 accuracy=100 pp=15[stats for all modded moves till stop]
False Swipe(normal): leaves with 1 hp
Rock slide(rock): chance to flinch
Cut(grass): chance to increase attack
Fly(flying): same effect
Surf(water): same effect
Strength(fighting): dragon tail effect
Flash(electric): mud slap effect
Rock smash(rock): brick break effect
Ice climb(ice): chance to freeze
Dive(dragon): same effect
Thief(dark): same effect
Earthquake(ground): only hits opponents
Iron tail(steel): flinch chance
(Replacing the move psychic)Psychic blast(psychic): chance to confuse
Shadow ball(ghost): same effect
Sludge bomb(poison): change to badly poison[stop]

Moveset changes

Lvl up:
Starters all start with false swipe, their stat reducing move, and either: water gun, ember, or vine whip
Unown: all moves that have the word "power" in it.

Tms:
All pokemon will get their stab flamethrower/thunderbolt/ice beam.
All pokemon get false swipe
All pokemon will get the rest of the Tms that make sense with new typing.


Evolution changes
All trade evolutions without items (golem, machamp etc.) are changed to lvl 50
Feebas to milotic with water stone
Eevee to espeon with sun stone
Eevee to umbreon with moonstone
Poliwhirl to politoad with high friendship
Slowpoke to slowbro to Slowking @lv 50
Clampearl to Huntail with moon stone
Clampearl to gorebyss with sun stone
Onix to steelix at level 45
Porygon to porygon2 with thunder stone
Scyther to scizor with high friendship
Seadra to kingdra with water stone


Location changes
Safari zone: legendary zone
Route 101: starters
Route 103: my team so I don't have to wait for it :p

Item/shop changes
Lilycove department store: tm store
Slateport: ev tools (berries and vitamins)
Battle frontier pokemart: rare candies, master balls, and pp maxes added
Mauville: has harbor mail

Stat changes
I have made all Pokemon somewhat equal. they all have the same base stats that get upgraded by evolution

Pokemon who evolve twice: base- 185; 1st evo- 200; final- 250
Pokemon who evolve once: base- 200; evo- 250
Pokemon who don't evolve: base- 250
Legends: 255
All non-legendary Pokemon will have the catch rates set to 200
Legendaries be set to 75

Pokemon will be differed by ivs and evs. All the berries and stat enhancing vitamins are available in slateport.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:26 AM   #189
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>Venomoth: poison/psychic

lol wut
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:55 AM   #190
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> Slowbro evolves into Slowking
Wut

I should make a log of all changes I've done in mine so far...
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