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Old 06-09-2012, 02:52 PM   #51
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And Blaziken is the only 'mon that can do this?

Face it- ANY weather sweeper is gonna eat one of your 'mon if you let it set up.
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Though, I also dislike the concept of lamenting the current day while wishing to re-experience the past. At least, my modern attitude is to try and make each new day magical even if it's not, since exclusively reminiscing about the past is too pathetic.
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Old 06-09-2012, 04:47 PM   #52
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How about we just make a blaziken thread
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:18 AM   #53
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And Blaziken is the only 'mon that can do this?

Face it- ANY weather sweeper is gonna eat one of your 'mon if you let it set up.
Slight little correction. Blaziken is the only 'mon that can do this while outspeeding everything in the game. And still getting to choose its attacks.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:35 AM   #54
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Okay, last gen it was Alakazam is too OP for UU. Now it's Blaziken is too OP for everything. It sucked then, it sucks now. This has gone on for several pages now and it's honestly stupid. Change the subject away from Blaziken and his overpowerness (or lack there of) or shit happens.
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This thread is now about the awesomeness that is Toxicroak.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:39 AM   #56
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:00 PM   #57
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Toxicroak used to be on the generic Politoed/Thundurus/Toxicroak/Ferrothorn/Scizor/Rotom-W team that 50% of all people ran when Thundurus was still in OU. For whatever reason now, it doesn't get used as much as it did. It's become really underrated, I think. The Sub set in Rain is glorious. Don't know why it isn't seen more often.
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I used Toxicroak all the time in Gen IV, had like 7 of them (SD, Rain, Band, Scarf, NP, Mixed Priority and... Specs I think?). It's a really diverse Pokémon and I'm glad to see that it's had some recognition this Gen.

That's all I've got.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:13 PM   #59
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Yeah, I used a Nasty Plot set for a UU team. Surprised at how that doesn't get any recognition this gen, because it was pretty solid even against OU teams. I actually might need to try that out soon...
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:23 AM   #60
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I haven't really used the 'croak, but battling Dave's gave me tingles. And since I ended up trying out I-can't-remember-who's Hitmonchan, Toxicroak seems like a distinct possibility.

I want to mention how long me VS Blaze ended up being, but I don't know how to put it into words right now. Maybe I should stop talking, since I'm so tired atm. Yeah, I'll do that.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:19 PM   #61
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I seem to have this strange ability to be online when nobody else is.

Also, having messed around with comp for the first time in forever, I officially love Eviolite more than I should ever love any held item.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:19 PM   #62
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I seem to have this strange ability to be online when nobody else is.

Also, having messed around with comp for the first time in forever, I officially love Eviolite more than I should ever love any held item.
Keep in mind: Most Eviolite users are shit.

Machoke is the best I have seen in a while, s he gets INSANELY bulky. 360 Sp.Def + Bulk Up is no laughing matter.
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Why are you not online right now? >>;

And yeah, I was testing out an Eviolite Machoke earlier, though my favorite so far is Chansey, because becomes even more of a wall than Blissey.
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And yeah, I was testing out an Eviolite Machoke earlier, though my favorite so far is Chansey, because becomes even more of a wall than Blissey.
Got a report to do :P

Yeah, Bulk Up Guts Cross Chop can pack a huge wallop, and the Sp. Def is enough to take a LO Psychic from alakazam.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:55 PM   #65
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Speaking of Eviolite users, Dusclops and Scyther are both pretty good with that, too. Chansey is the most widely used by far, though. (For obvious reasons.)
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Speaking of Eviolite users, Dusclops and Scyther are both pretty good with that, too. Chansey is the most widely used by far, though. (For obvious reasons.)
I find it hard to use either of them...and Scyther would most like Choice Band anyways.
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I'd imagine Pory2 is pretty awesome with Eviolite.

And yeah, Scyther isn't really a defensive 'mon. I always used to use a Scarf on mine.
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I'd imagine Pory2 is pretty awesome with Eviolite.
Yes.
Yes yes yes.

Evolite P2 just laughs at everything. It's... a little too strong. Mine once tanked a hit from some insanely jacked up opponent and brought me back from 1-6 to 1-0.

...Yes, I like walls. What of it?
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Yeah, Porygon2 is pretty awesome. It can cripple stuff with T-Wave and heal a bunch of damage back with Recover. And then it has offensive capabilities as well, and I usually go with BoltBeam for that.

Scyther is never used with Eviolite defensively, though. I find that Scyther works with Eviolite on a bulky Swords Dance set, sort of like the Bulk Up Machoke that was listed earlier. Invest into HP and Speed, and Swords Dance to get your attack up to sweep. I like the Choice sets too, but don't overlook the set with Eviolite.
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I had an Eviolite Dusclops. Even in UU it's not that great.
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Yes.
Yes yes yes.

Evolite P2 just laughs at everything. It's... a little too strong. Mine once tanked a hit from some insanely jacked up opponent and brought me back from 1-6 to 1-0.

...Yes, I like walls. What of it?


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When running Eviolite Dusclops, I like to go with 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD with a Calm nature. That gives it 284 HP, 474 Defense, and 561 Special Defense. That's pretty good, IMO, especially when it carries Will-o-Wisp. My only beef with it that makes me prefer Chansey is that Dusclops has to use ResTalk or Pain Split for recovery, while Chansey has the advantage of Softboiled and/or Wish.
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When running Eviolite Dusclops, I like to go with 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD with a Calm nature. That gives it 284 HP, 474 Defense, and 561 Special Defense. That's pretty good, IMO, especially when it carries Will-o-Wisp. My only beef with it that makes me prefer Chansey is that Dusclops has to use ResTalk or Pain Split for recovery, while Chansey has the advantage of Softboiled and/or Wish.
I have to agree with this. The only restTalkers I like are the ones who can boost, like Regirock or Spiritomb. Otherwise, you can be left doing next to nothing, and will take continually the same damage when you could be taking less.

But, the sleep mechs now make it much harder for resttalkers.
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Dammit lads, I'm getting you confused because your avvies are both girls in purple flowing garb with a bright background.

Also I wouldn't personally do anything with Dusky's HP, just max out Defences and spam Pain Split.

I had a few Scyther, but all were straight up attackers. Think I had an LO SD and a Scarf.

I feel like I'm going to miss out on stuff by never having done proper BW comp.
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When running Eviolite Dusclops, I like to go with 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD with a Calm nature. That gives it 284 HP, 474 Defense, and 561 Special Defense. That's pretty good, IMO, especially when it carries Will-o-Wisp. My only beef with it that makes me prefer Chansey is that Dusclops has to use ResTalk or Pain Split for recovery, while Chansey has the advantage of Softboiled and/or Wish.
And with a considerable amount of HP, Pain Split is pretty much out of the question. My Eviolite Dusclops was on my Ghost UU mono, but got replaced when I switched my team around and decided to go with changing my Haunter to Eviolite and throwing in a Golurk for physical damage.
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