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Old 01-11-2012, 09:14 PM   #51
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My order has always been by KOs, as it has been for centuries before when I took over the LT. Any ties are broken by win% and then by TP

But Jeri makes a point, Ranking by KOs is fairly archaic. The best method would be by resistance%. However, in order to work this out, a massive Database would have to be collected of every match, since it is determined on who you won against and who you lost against.

This is a very complicated procedure, which I could help explain if anyone actually cares.

The option of using win% as the initial ranking makes better sense, but it would put ABL and and some serenewb who just won one match on the top of the LT... This is a massive flaw with the concept... Thus, KOs is more reliable, and less complicated than Resistance%
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:23 PM   #52
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W/L percentage and you need to have a certain number of wins to qualify for ranking.

But that's complicated and there's a lot of things that inflate both.
Yeah that would be better, but who wants to devote that much time and effort into an online Pokemon pretend game?

Dave probably would.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:27 PM   #53
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I don't think rankings are that important on the LT when we have Elsie's Trainer Rankings :P
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:27 PM   #54
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Waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of you, TDos.

Though I'm not going anywhere near correlative shit like this. I'll stick to reffings.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:30 PM   #55
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I don't think rankings are that important on the LT when we have Elsie's Trainer Rankings :P
Those are only good for decently active trainers. I think it goes without saying that Muyo and Kuno should be a very high ranked trainers.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:31 PM   #56
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Those are only good for decently active trainers. I think it goes without saying that Muyo and Kuno should be a very high ranked trainers.
They are in our hearts and minds. And that's what matters most.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:38 PM   #57
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:39 PM   #58
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:47 PM   #59
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I don't think rankings are that important on the LT when we have Elsie's Trainer Rankings :P

Shall I not bother with the LT then?
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:49 PM   #60
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Shall I not bother with the LT then?
Don't. Save me the embarrassment, lol.
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:40 AM   #61
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They are in our hearts and minds. And that's what matters most.
Also because getting them to actually battl - oh, who am I kidding.

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My order has always been by KOs, as it has been for centuries before when I took over the LT. Any ties are broken by win% and then by TP

But Jeri makes a point, Ranking by KOs is fairly archaic. The best method would be by resistance%. However, in order to work this out, a massive Database would have to be collected of every match, since it is determined on who you won against and who you lost against.

This is a very complicated procedure, which I could help explain if anyone actually cares.

The option of using win% as the initial ranking makes better sense, but it would put ABL and and some serenewb who just won one match on the top of the LT... This is a massive flaw with the concept... Thus, KOs is more reliable, and less complicated than Resistance%
If anyone is actually interested you could always make use of all the data, then if you really wanted to, organise it into separate tables following different ranking systems so anyone who wants to see veterans atop a list can get their fix. (Granted, I'm on TD's side with the whole "No one really cares" thing, because given our circumstances propped reputations seems to take precedence over anything else.) Though I still advocate similar censuses, since the data has its uses, like editing acquisition levels (overdue and less relevant to the current topic, I know, but really).
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:43 AM   #62
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:09 AM   #63
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If anyone is actually interested you could always make use of all the data, then if you really wanted to, organise it into separate tables following different ranking systems so anyone who wants to see veterans atop a list can get their fix. (Granted, I'm on TD's side with the whole "No one really cares" thing, because given our circumstances propped reputations seems to take precedence over anything else.) Though I still advocate similar censuses, since the data has its uses, like editing acquisition levels (overdue and less relevant to the current topic, I know, but really).
Yes, but time.... SS, my friend, it's something I don't have and if I had it, I then might consider the use of such a compilation of data.

You are right, it has its use, but if I anyone were to actually set out to compile the entire list from years and years of archives in both forums, they'd either want to be paid like a 9-5 salary for it, or be sent to an asylum first.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:32 AM   #64
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W/L percentage and you need to have a certain number of wins to qualify for ranking.

But that's complicated and there's a lot of things that inflate both.
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Do it by TL and then by KOs/WL%?

i dunno lol
Generally signing up to this kind of idea. I'd have said Trainer Level first, then W/L or KOs and then the next one after that. Don't include TP/SP in the ranking system because it fluctuates massively and some people don't have the time or inclination to ref huge amounts.

And I think we do need this alongside LC's trainer rankings. I don't particularly care about either of them, personally, but speaking as someone who is obliged to occasionally sift through real world versions of this stuff for Uni and as someone who occasionally helps LC with the rankings decisions, it's good to have both an objective and a subjective way of ranking people.

Obviously, objective stuff is always nice and easy to follow. Who wins more often than not, who has the most badges and slots, etc etc. If updated reasonably regularly it's a useful tool when you suddenly have to battle someone unknown and can't find their summary.

Subjective stuff is fun because it provides an incentive people to fight ranked people. While it's based on whether or not you're beating regular people, it takes into account things like activity and newbie slaying. Dave and I likely top the old LT because we have ridiculous numbers of KOs, but while Dave is currently at the number 1 ranking spot I'm placed at 5 (and should probably be lower tbh).
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:39 AM   #65
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:50 PM   #66
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:58 PM   #67
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:49 PM   #68
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:10 AM   #69
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:22 AM   #70
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OK! I have a few other people I'm waiting on PMs from and I'll put up the table if I get their info soon.

I will also be including prominent members whose information may not be up-to-date, for the sake of nostalgia or memories and/or more importantly the fact they still effectively hold Gym positions and the like.

Not long to go peeps!
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:10 PM   #71
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That reminds me, I'm Ground GT. Thought you'd like to include that in the LT.
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Old 01-17-2012, 03:11 PM   #72
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I have 4 SP now, just want to mention that.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:29 PM   #73
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