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Old 12-16-2016, 11:33 AM   #8
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Alolan Ninetales and regular Ninetales don't share a moveset. Shuckle. It has no fire moves or grass moves or any of that.

Is Mudsdale really a five? I get that it's stupid huge, but so is golurk, which has a LOT more going for it and iirc is tl4

Given the SCs I can see Toxapex in TL4, though it hardly breaks TL3- Look at Seismitoad. Araquanid feels solidly 3 given that SC though.
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