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Old 07-05-2016, 04:57 PM   #56
Aposteriori
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The current full SC, highlighting any problem areas

Smeargle (Normal): Smeargle may use the move Sketch to permanently learn new moves. The number of slots Smeargle has is dependent on the owner's trainer level. Smeargle will start with ten moves that it can Sketch. For each level over 1 that a Smeargle's trainer has, it can learn an additional four moves, up to a maximum of 30 total Sketched moves (other moves which Smeargle can learn naturally do not count towards this limit). Moves which Smeargle has learned must be noted in the Miscellaneous Squad Submissions thread and recorded in the Pokémon’s biography. Moves can also be deleted freely using Miscellaneous Squad Submissions. Smeargle may not Sketch the same move more than once without deleting it first and cannot Sketch signature moves or moves learned via signatures. The amount of off-type energy that Smeargle receives is proportional to the types of moves that it copies. Since Smeargle is generally not a natural user of these moves, it cannot use them with familiarity and they may be slightly less effective than normal (though they will deal equivalent damage and use the normal amount of energy, generally). Smeargle may also may use their tails to paint their surroundings or their foes. This counts as a move and can serve a variety of purposes, from marking gathering points to writing taunts that will enrage the opponent. Smeargle have sensitive hearing, at the expense of being more vulnerable to sound based status attacks. They fight more enthusiastically in urban environments.

The issues with the SC (in bullet points or short paragraphs, if applicable)
Let's settle the score on this one; it needs more balancing to ensure we don't feel shafted facing one.


The proposed changes or additions (please do not rewrite the SC yourself)
We have these moves defined as event moves:
235. Smeargle - False Swipe, Spore, Mean Look, Odor Sleuth, Iron Tail, Doubleslap, Tail Whip, Captivate, Sleep Talk, Flamethrower, Seismic Toss, Fury Swipes

1) As the years have gone by, Smeargle off the bat has 5 offtypes gifted to him.


Moveset Alterations
Pokémon with extremely limited movesets (such as regional bugs/pupae or Pokémon like Wobuffett) may generally pick up a number of moves without significant drawback, but they must be limited to around 20 at maximum and cannot be more than 6 different types, not counting their STAB.

2) Pulling from the sig guidelines: six seems to be an acceptable amount of offtype without major drawbacks.

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1)My proposition is that we relook what we call event moves for Smeargle. I think that as the years go by, and more Smeargle are handed out as event prizes, the bigger its movepool will grow. Being real honest, these cannot be considered event moves; Smeargle has the unique move to learn all moves from the game, so by extension it learned those moves via its natural attack of sketch. In my mind, its like we are doubling down on moves it should be able to learn to begin with. These are not special, these are not impossible to obtain otherwise, it was just gamefreak handing a Smeargle out with four common moves. I propose we eliminate the notion that Smeargle learns event moves; these moves are not unnatural or unobtainable by other means to him.

2)The bolded part of the SC should work in tandem with the amount of offtype it has access to. If Smeargle has 6 offtype total, it should work with no inhibition which should void the SC nerf introduced in the last version of the SC. If Smeargle has 6-10, it should work with the debuff already mentioned. If it has 11+ (Snorlax has access to 11 offtypes), it should have the debuff and also an offtype energy nerf.


Please consider part 1 heavily, because this will avoid future movepool additions that will make Smeargle a runaway offtype train.
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