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Old 02-15-2015, 12:01 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by Stealthy View Post
Haxorus and Magnezone both to TL4. Mamoswine as well perhaps, though I'd like Connor's input on that. Fraxure then certainly deserves TL2 but I could see Piloswine and Magneton still wanting TL3 but eh.

Druddigon up to TL4. It's a pretty good pokemon. Deserves better than TL3.

If Gengar goes to TL6, consider Haunter for TL4. Similarly if Flygon goes to 6, consider Vibrava at 4. Kangaskhan, Quagsire, and Gliscor all can go from TL3 to TL4. I think we can consider moving Honchkrow to TL4, if only to separate it from Mandibuzz. Mandi certainly has some tricks of her own and is a pretty good pokemon, but idk. Just feel like a split is a good idea.

Sealeo to TL2. Boldore to TL2. Gurdurr to TL2. Palpitoad to TL2. Krokorok to TL2. Lampent to TL2. This is just a whole lot of fixing evolutionary chains from being 1-3-4 to 1-2-4. Unova has a bunch of weird ones like that. There are some that deserve 1-3-4 but these guys are not them.

Amoonguss to TL2 because oh god the bad. Dodrio to TL2 because oh god the bad. Zebstrika to TL2 because oh god the bad. Parasect also potentially TL2.

Elemental Monkeys could also go for TL2. I mean, I think they're okay at TL3 but idk, I'd consider TL2 for them.

Jiggly/Clefairy to TL3. Chansey to TL3. Heatmor to TL3.

Shuckle, Sneasel, Delibird, Bronzor, Audino, Emolga, Dedenne, Furfrou, Vivillon, Carbink, and Klefki all need to go from TL2 to TL1.

Rhyhorn and Dunspace then go to TL2.

That covers most of what I have to say that I don't think has been said yet. Later I'll go through on the other suggestions that have been made.
Almost everything here. Frax staying at TL3, Mamo at TL5. Vibrava stays TL3. I'd honestly rather keep Rhyhorn at TL1, too.

And some of my own:
Tentacruel to TL3
Lapras to TL6
Sableye to TL4
I could honestly see all the Eeveeloutions becoming TL2, but if one moves, they all need to.
Aerodactyl to TL4
Doublade TL2, Aegislash TL3
Vespiquen TL2, at most
Forretress to TL3, maybe
Gardevoir and Gallade to TL5
Obligatory Mawile to TL3
Bastiodon down to TL3
I know we did that thing where Pokemon evolved from babies had to be a higher level, but, come on, that was not altogether a great idea, Chimecho to TL1.
I know 1-2-6 isn't pretty, but Beldum is absolutely shit and Metang could probably fit as a good but not wonderful TL2
Excadrill to TL3
Sawk and Throh are probably TL1 material, speaking as a Throh owner.
Maybe bump 'fag down to TL2?
TL4 Garchomp
TL5/6 Absol. I doubt anyone would contest this seriously. Probably TL6
Reuniclus down to TL3 and Duosion to TL2. Reflect the Goth line.
Is Jellicent really good enough to be TL4? Might be more 3 material but I don't completely know
Noivern to TL3
Maybe make Ferrothorn TL3? Not sure to be honest
Heliolisk down to TL3
Gourgeist and Trevenant to TL3

Meganium and Serperior staying TL4 because internal consistency's sake

Just throwing out some ideas
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