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Old 02-15-2015, 08:10 AM   #18
Mercutio
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So this morning I was using this as a procrastination tool and actually despite the fact that I have absolutely no faith in Sneezey's ability to make anything happen at all (except for an awesome GM!), and the fact that I think you have to alter the points it takes to go up a level from about TL3 and up which would take ages, we need to do this:
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Originally Posted by Tyoyo3131 View Post
Reintroduction of TL7 and spreading out the TL4 'mon, because ATM TL4 is a massive power spike for trainers.
But for now some suggestions based on the current system. Suggested changes in bold. Went through Skype, the previous thread and other things, think I've included every previously suggested change (that I like lol)

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Abomasnow: 3
Abra: 1
Absol: 5/6
Accelgor: 3
Aegislash: 4
Aerodactyl: 4 - why pick up Archeops when you can pick this up?
Aggron: 5
Aipom: 1
Alakazam: 4
Alomomola: 1
Altaria: 4
Amaura: 1
Ambipom: 3
Amoonguss: 3
Ampharos: 4
Anorith: 1
Arbok: 3
Arcanine: 4
Archen: 1
Archeops: 3
Ariados: 2
Armaldo: 4
Aromatisse: 3
Aron: 1
Audino: 2
Aurorus: 3
Avalugg: 4
Axew: 1
Azumarill: 4
Azurill: 1
Bagon: 1
Baltoy: 1
Banette: 3
Barbaracle: 4
Barboach: 1
Basculin: 1
Bastiodon: 4
Bayleef: 2
Beartic: 4
Beautifly: 1
Beedrill: 1
Beheeyem: 3
Beldum: 1
Bellossom: 3
Bellsprout: 1
Bibarel: 3
Bidoof: 1
Binacle: 1
Bisharp: 4
Blastoise: 4
Blaziken: 4
Blissey: 4
Blitzle: 1
Boldore: 2
Bonsly: 1
Bouffalant: 3
Braixen: 2
Braviary: 3
Breloom: 3
Bronzong: 4
Bronzor: 1
Budew: 1
Buizel: 1
Bulbasaur: 1
Buneary: 1
Bunnelby: 1
Bergmite: 1
Burmy: 1
Butterfree: 1
Cacnea: 1
Cacturne: 3
Camerupt: 3
Carbink: 2
Carnivine: 2
Carracosta: 3
Carvanha: 1
Cascoon: 1
Castform: 2
Caterpie: 1
Chandelure: 4
Chansey: 2
Charizard: 4
Charmander: 1
Charmeleon: 2
Chatot: 1
Cherrim: 2
Cherubi: 1
Chespin: 1
Chesnaught: 4
Chikorita: 1
Chimchar: 1
Chimecho: 2
Chinchou: 1
Chingling: 1
Cinccino: 3
Clamperl: 1
Clauncher: 1
Clawitzer: 4
Claydol: 4
Clefable: 5
Clefairy: 2
Cleffa: 1
Cloyster: 3
Cofagrigus: 3
Combee: 1
Combusken: 2
Conkeldurr: 4
Corphish: 1
Corsola: 1
Cottonee: 1
Cradily: 4
Cranidos: 1
Crawdaunt: 3
Croagunk: 1
Crobat: 4
Croconaw: 2
Crustle: 4
Cryogonal: 3
Cubchoo: 1
Cubone: 1
Cyndaquil: 1
Darmanitan: 3
Darumaka: 1
Dedenne: 1
Deerling: 1
Deino: 1
Delcatty: 2
Delphox: 4
Delibird: 2
Dewgong: 3
Dewott: 2
Diggersby: 3
Diglett: 1
Ditto: 1
Dodrio: 3
Doduo: 1
Donphan: 3
Doublade: 2
Dragalge: 4
Dragonair: 4
Dragonite: 6
Drapion: 4
Dratini: 2
Drifblim: 3
Drifloon: 1
Drilbur: 1
Drowzee: 1
Druddigon: 3
Ducklett: 1
Dugtrio: 3
Dunsparce: 1
Duosion: 3
Durant: 3
Dusclops: 4
Dusknoir: 5
Duskull: 1
Dustox: 1
Dwebble: 1
Eelektrik: 2
Eelektross: 5
Eevee: 1
Ekans: 1
Electabuzz: 3
Electivire: 5
Electrike: 1
Electrode: 3
Elekid: 1
Elgyem: 1
Emboar: 4
Emolga: 2
Empoleon: 4
Escavalier: 3
Espeon: 3
Espurr: 1
Excadrill: 4
Exeggcute: 1
Exeggutor: 3
Exploud: 4
Farfetch'd: 1
Fearow: 2
Feebas: 1
Fennekin: 1
Feraligatr: 4
Ferroseed: 1
Ferrothorn: 3
Finneon: 1
Flaaffy: 2
Flabébé: 1
Flareon: 3
Fletchling: 1
Fletchinder: 2
Floatzel: 3
Floette: 2
Florges: 3
Flygon: 5
Foongus: 1
Forretress: 4
Fraxure: 2
Frillish: 1
Froakie: 1
Frogadier: 2
Froslass: 4
Furfrou: 2
Furret: 3
Gabite: 2
Gallade: 5
Galvantula: 3
Garbodor: 3
Garchomp: 4 - Concept and I had an argument about Garchomp/Flygon and I now agree with him that they should be 4/5 respectively, though not for the reasons he wants them to be.
Gardevoir: 5
Gastly: 1
Gastrodon: 3
Gengar: 6
Geodude: 1
Gible: 1
Gigalith: 3 It pains me but yeah Gigalith is not stellar
Girafarig: 2
Glaceon: 3
Glalie: 3
Glameow: 1
Gligar: 1
Gliscor: 3
Gloom: 2
Gogoat: 3
Gourgeist: 3 - because everyone is saying it but actually I know nothing about Gourgeist
Golbat: 3
Goldeen: 1
Golduck: 4
Golem: 4
Golett: 2
Golurk: 5
Goodra: 5
Goomy: 1
Gorebyss: 3
Gothita: 1
Gothitelle: 3
Gothorita: 2
Granbull: 4
Graveler: 3
Greninja: 4
Grimer: 1
Grotle: 2
Grovyle: 2
Growlithe: 1
Grumpig: 3
Gulpin: 1
Gurdurr: 3
Gyarados: 4
Happiny: 1
Hariyama: 3
Haunter: 3
Hawlucha: 2
Haxorus: 4
Heatmor: 3
Heliolisk: 3
Helioptile: 1
Heracross: 2
Herdier: 2
Hippopotas: 1
Hippowdon: 4
Hitmonchan: 2
Hitmonlee: 2
Hitmontop: 2
Honchkrow: 3
Honedge: 1
Hoothoot: 1
Hoppip: 1
Horsea: 1
Houndoom: 4
Houndour: 1
Huntail: 3
Hydreigon: 5
Hypno: 3
Igglybuff: 1
Illumise: 2
Infernape: 4
Inkay: 1
Ivysaur: 2
Jellicent: 4
Jigglypuff: 2
Jolteon: 3
Joltik: 1
Jumpluff: 3
Jynx: 3
Kabuto: 1
Kabutops: 3
Kadabra: 2
Kakuna: 1
Kangaskhan: 3
Karrablast: 1
Kecleon: 2
Kingdra: 4/5
Kingler: 3
Kirlia: 3
Klang: 2
Klefki: 2
Klink: 1
Klinklang: 3
Koffing: 1
Krabby: 1
Kricketot: 1
Kricketune: 1
Krokorok: 3
Krookodile: 4
Lairon: 3
Lampent: 3
Lanturn: 4
Lapras: 6 - It really is that good
Larvesta: 1
Larvitar: 1
Leafeon: 3
Leavanny: 3
Ledian: 2
Ledyba: 1
Lickilicky: 5
Lickitung: 3
Liepard: 2
Lileep: 1
Lilligant: 3
Lillipup: 1
Linoone: 3
Litleo: 1
Litwick: 1
Lombre: 3
Lopunny: 3
Lotad: 1
Loudred: 2
Lucario: 4
Ludicolo: 5
Lumineon: 3
Lunatone: 2
Luvdisc: 1
Luxio: 2
Luxray: 4
Machamp: 4
Machoke: 3
Machop: 1
Magby: 1
Magcargo: 3
Magikarp: 1
Magmar: 3
Magmortar: 5
Magnemite: 1
Magneton: 3
Magnezone: 5
Makuhita: 1
Malamar: 4
Mamoswine: 5
Mandibuzz: 3
Manectric: 4
Mankey: 1
Mantine: 3
Mantyke: 1
Maractus: 1
Mareep: 1
Marill: 2
Marowak: 4
Marshtomp: 2
Masquerain: 2
Mawile: 3
Medicham: 3
Meditite: 1
Meganium: 3
Meowstic: 4
Meowth: 1
Metagross: 5
Metang: 3
Metapod: 1
Mienfoo: 1
Mienshao: 3
Mightyena: 2
Milotic: 3
Miltank: 3
Mime Jr.: 1
Minccino: 1
Minun: 1
Misdreavus: 2
Mismagius: 5
Monferno: 2
Mothim: 2
Mr. Mime: 4
Mudkip: 1
Muk: 4
Munchlax: 2
Munna: 1
Murkrow: 1
Musharna: 3
Natu: 1
Nidoking: 5
Nidoqueen: 5
Nidoran (F): 1
Nidoran (M): 1
Nidorina: 3
Nidorino: 3
Nincada: 1
Ninetales: 4
Ninjask: 2
Noibat: 1
Noivern: 4
Noctowl: 3
Nosepass: 1
Numel: 1
Nuzleaf: 2
Octillery: 4
Oddish: 1
Omanyte: 1
Omastar: 3
Onix: 2
Oshawott: 1
Pachirisu: 1
Pancham: 1
Pangoro: 4
Palpitoad: 3
Panpour: 1
Pansage: 1
Pansear: 1
Paras: 1
Parasect: 3
Patrat: 1
Pawniard: 1
Pelipper: 3
Persian: 3
Petilil: 1
Phanpy: 1
Phione: 2
Pichu: 1
Pidgeot: 3
Pidgeotto: 2
Pidgey: 1
Pidove: 1
Pignite: 2
Pikachu: 2
Piloswine: 3
Pineco: 1
Pinsir: 2
Piplup: 1
Phantump: 1
Plusle: 1
Politoed: 4
Poliwag: 1
Poliwhirl: 2
Poliwrath: 4
Ponyta: 1
Poochyena: 1
Porygon: 1
Porygon2: 3
Porygon-Z: 5
Primeape: 4
Prinplup: 2
Probopass: 3
Psyduck: 1
Pumpkaboo: 1
Pupitar: 3
Purrloin: 1
Purugly: 2
Pyroar: 2
Quagsire: 3
Quilava: 2
Qwilfish: 1
Quilladin: 2
Raichu: 4
Ralts: 1
Rampardos: 4
Rapidash: 3
Raticate: 3
Rattata: 1
Relicanth: 2
Remoraid: 1
Reuniclus: 4
Rhydon: 4
Rhyhorn: 2
Rhyperior: 5
Riolu: 1
Roggenrola: 1
Roselia: 2
Roserade: 4
Rotom: 3
Rufflet: 1
Sableye: 3
Salamence: 5
Samurott: 4
Sandile: 1
Sandshrew: 1
Sandslash: 3
Sawk: 2
Sawsbuck: 3
Scatterbug: 1
Sceptile: 4
Scizor: 4
Scolipede: 4
Scrafty: 4
Scraggy: 1
Scyther: 1
Seadra: 2
Seaking: 3
Sealeo: 3
Seedot: 1
Seel: 1
Seismitoad: 4
Sentret: 1
Serperior: 3
Servine: 2
Seviper: 2
Sewaddle: 1
Sharpedo: 3
Shedinja: 2
Shelgon: 3
Shellder: 1
Shellos: 1
Shelmet: 1
Shieldon: 1
Shiftry: 3
Shinx: 1
Shroomish: 1
Shuckle: 2
Shuppet: 1
Sigilyph: 2
Silcoon: 1
Simipour: 3
Simisage: 3
Simisear: 3
Skarmory: 3
Skiddo: 1
Skiploom: 2
Skitty: 1
Skorupi: 1
Skrelp: 1
Skuntank: 3
Slaking: 4
Slakoth: 1
Sliggoo: 3
Slowbro: 4
Slowking: 4
Slowpoke: 1
Slugma: 1
Slurpuff: 3
Smeargle: 1
Smoochum: 1
Sneasel: 2
Snivy: 1
Snorlax: 6
Snorunt: 1
Snover: 1
Snubbull: 1
Solosis: 1
Solrock: 2
Spearow: 1
Spewpa: 1
Spheal: 1
Spinarak: 1
Spinda: 1
Spiritomb: 2
Spoink: 1
Spritzee: 1
Squirtle: 1
Stantler: 2
Staraptor: 3
Staravia: 2
Starly: 1
Starmie: 4
Staryu: 1
Steelix: 4
Stoutland: 3 ... 2?
Stunfisk: 2
Stunky: 1
Sudowoodo: 2
Sunflora: 2
Sunkern: 1
Surskit: 1
Swablu: 1
Swadloon: 2
Swalot: 3
Swampert: 4
Swanna: 3
Swellow: 3
Swinub: 1
Swirlix: 1
Swoobat: 3
Sylveon: 3
Taillow: 1
Talonflame: 3
Tangela: 1
Tangrowth: 4
Tauros: 4 - I actually think it's deserving of TL5 but I think I'll get shouted down lol. Bouffy to TL3.
Teddiursa: 1
Tentacool: 1
Tentacruel: 4
Tepig: 1
Throh: 2
Timburr: 1
Tirtouga: 1
Togekiss: 4
Togepi: 1
Togetic: 3
Torchic: 1
Torkoal: 2
Torterra: 4
Totodile: 1
Toxicroak: 4
Tranquill: 2
Trapinch: 1
Treecko: 1
Trevenant: 4
Tropius: 3
Trubbish: 1
Turtwig: 1
Tympole: 1
Tynamo: 1
Typhlosion: 4
Tyranitar: 5
Tyrantrum: 3 - it's really not that good guys
Tyrogue: 1
Tyrunt: 1
Umbreon: 3
Unfezant: 3
Unown: 1
Ursaring: 4
Vanillish: 2
Vanillite: 1
Vanilluxe: 3
Vaporeon: 3
Venipede: 1
Venomoth: 4 - not sure one this one
Venonat: 1
Venusaur: 4
Vespiquen: 1
Vibrava: 3
Victreebel: 3
Vigoroth: 2
Vileplume: 3
Vivillion: 1
Volbeat: 2
Volcarona: 4
Voltorb: 1
Vullaby: 1
Vulpix: 1
Wailmer: 1
Wailord: 4
Walrein: 4
Wartortle: 2
Watchog: 2
Weavile: 3
Weedle: 1
Weepinbell: 2
Weezing: 4
Whimsicott: 3
Whirlipede: 2
Whiscash: 3
Whismur: 1
Wigglytuff: 5
Wingull: 1
Wobbuffet: 2
Woobat: 1
Wooper: 1
Wormadam: 2
Wurmple: 1
Wynaut: 1
Xatu: 3
Yamask: 1
Yanma: 1
Yanmega: 3
Zangoose: 2
Zebstrika: 3
Zigzagoon: 1
Zoroark: 3
Zorua: 1
Zubat : 1
Zweilous: 3


I think I've ended up with TL6 making a net gain of like 1, TL5 making net gain and then mostly everything moves down a bit. Idk I stopped counting after a while.

I'm sure I've missed stuff and am, sadly, not infallible so feel free to disagree!

Last edited by Mercutio; 02-15-2015 at 08:32 AM.
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