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Missingno. Master 09-24-2017 06:46 PM

Pokémon Gold and Silver discussion thread
 
So, with Gold and Silver out for the Virtual Console now, I'm thinking a thread like this would be in order, so we can discuss our respective playthroughs, our teams, our progress, things like that.

Right now, I'm playing Gold, currently trying to boot Team Rocket out of the Slowpoke Well. And the team is as follows:

Unown (G), genderless, lv. 14
~Hidden Power (Psychic)

Togepi, male, lv. 14
~Swift
~Mud-Slap
~Charm
~Metronome

Chikorita, female, lv. 15
~Razor Leaf
~Tackle
~Reflect
~Poison Powder


Future additions to the team will include Lapras and Stantler. Undecided on a sixth- I'm considering Weezing, of course, but I haven't made a final decision there yet.

Missingno. Master 09-24-2017 07:28 PM

...Scratch what I said about Lapras. Ralph just called to inform me of a Qwilfish swarm immediately before I got the Lure Ball from Kurt. If that's not a sign, I don't know what is.

Heather 09-24-2017 07:34 PM

I'm currently doing a nuzlocke of Silver because I just like agony I guess.

Team is as follows:

Lars, Quilava (M) Lv 14
Lark, Pidgey (F) Lv 13
Andesite, Geodude (M) Lv 12
Pedro, Beedrill (M) Lv 10
Myrtle, Gastly (F) Lv 12
Beruka, Zubat (F) Lv 6

Going to go out and pray for a Mareep because I desperately need a counter for Silver's Croconaw before we hit Azalea and unfortunately with Bite in the picture, Spite Spam with Myrtle isn't an option to deprive it of Water attacks, though that is how I hope to render Murdercow incapable of Murder. Can't touch a female Gastly if you're out of Rollouts, punk!

Missingno. Master 09-24-2017 07:54 PM

Yikes. Yeah, I think I legit lost a Crystal Nuzlocke to that Croconaw once.

Did you catch an Unown, or are you not bothering? Unown can be surprisingly worthwhile in Nuzlockes in my experience. One time, had this Unown H with HP Flying. Glyph lasted me until near Lake of Rage, when it took two separate five-hit Double Slaps from a Clefairy, the second of which landed three separate crits, to finish it off.

Heather 09-24-2017 09:20 PM

The first Unown I found (hahahah it was an unown-i) had HP either ground, Ghost, or Psychic (it hit Myrtle for SE), none of which was really going to serve my purposes too well, so I passed it up. Maybe if I'd been able to confirm electric i would have gone for it against Falkner and maybe as a way to soften up croconaw, but nope.

Miror 09-24-2017 11:31 PM

Got Gold for VC as well, team is currently:

Irwin the Male Croconaw, Level 18
OnePercent the Male Dunsparce, Level 18
Popple the Male Gastly, Level 18
Cut Slave the Male Paras, Level 6

I could honestly be Nuzlocking bar Dunsparce taking 20 minutes to find (have yet to have anything get KO'd though so hey), just got into Goldenrod. Forgot how borked Rage can be in early game as both Irwin and OnePercent have it lol

Currently wanting to add 3/4 of Growlithe, Mankey, Natu, or Scyther to the team (sorry Paras but I just needed something for Cut :c), not entirely sure which yet but we'll see.

Heather 09-24-2017 11:56 PM

>Irwin the Croconaw
I've done that name before for probably the same reason you are probably using it.

Miror 09-24-2017 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heather (Post 802661)
>Irwin the Croconaw
I've done that name before for probably the same reason you are probably using it.

Prolly, I've also named my Mantine in ASB Irwin because I'm a terrible person but :c

Missingno. Master 09-25-2017 12:45 AM

Dunsparce! Nice! :) Even in the days before Serene Grace, I do love that thing.

In other news, made it past Azalea Gym and my rival, currently making my way through Ilex Forest. Qwilfish was a huge help with both, and Unown wasn't too shabby either. Anyway, gonna call it a night, here's the team so far:

Qwilfish, female, lv. 15
~Poison Sting
~Headbutt
~Harden
~Minimize

Togepi, male, lv. 15
~Swift
~Mud-Slap
~Charm
~Metronome

Unown (G), genderless, lv. 16
~Hidden Power (Psychic)

[email protected] Seed, female, lv. 16
~Razor Leaf
~Cut
~Reflect
~Poison Powder

Missingno. Master 09-25-2017 09:32 PM

Alright, just took on Whitney. Only used Unown and Bayleef. Nobody fainted whatsoever. Unown handled Clefairy like a boss (it helped that Clefairy Metronomed a missed Thunder, and then Metronomed a Sky Attack, both of which gave Unown free turns to attack), and then Bayleef sets up Reflect, goes for Poison Powder, and KOs Miltank with two Razor Leaf attacks, one of which is a crit. I... I am stunned. I figured the Miltank of Death would be a team effort to take down. I mean, I'm not looking a gift Ponyta in the mouth here- I am most definitely cool with not having a frustrating time against the Miltank of Death- I'm just a bit surprised, is all.

Well, onward to Ecruteak City, then, I suppose. I'll be catching my sixth team member along the way.

EDIT: I'm looking at my team- nobody's HP even dropped below half! I... I have never had such an easy time with this Gym! I am stunned! Truly I wish you all this level of luck with Goldenrod Gym as well.

Miror 09-25-2017 10:27 PM

Yeah I don't remember ever struggling particularly with Whitney, this time around I out-cheesed her with Glare/Headbutt Dunsparce. Made it through Morty no issue and now am in the weird in between of where to go next. Team is currently:

Irwin the Male Croconaw, Level 25
OnePercent the Male Dunsparce, Level 25
Popple the Male Haunted, Level 25
Quetzal the Female Xatu, Level 25
Buster the Male Growlithe, Level 24
Cut Slave the Male Paras, Level 7

Missingno. Master 09-26-2017 09:33 PM

So yeah, made it to Ecruteak. And Olivine. And Mahogany. I do believe I've bested all the Trainers I don't need Surf to access, outside of the Burned Tower and the Ecruteak Gym. And I'm going through the Burned Tower now. Beat my rival, taking out the Firebreathers, and am about to unleash the legendary gerbils upon a poor, unsuspecting Johto. Also, as I said I'd do, I caught my sixth team member en route to Ecruteak- not to be taken for granite, Sudowoodo joins the team!

Missingno. Master 09-27-2017 01:12 AM

So yeah, just cleared out the Ecruteak Gym. Pretty pleased with how the Gym battle went. :) First off, Unown OHKO'd Gastly with Hidden Power. Well, I say OHKO'd, but Gastly did get off a Curse beforehand, so yeah. But I'm willing to bet it would've OHKO'd regardless. I then sent in Togepi to deal with Haunter. Again, Haunter went for Curse, leaving Togepi to take out the other half of its HP in one move. Then I sent in Stantler against Gengar. Hypnosis, Nightmare, spammed Flash, down went Gengar. I had equipped a Mint Berry to Stantler, replacing his Pink Bow just for this battle, but there was no need, as Gengar's own Hypnosis missed! :) I then sent Togepi in to handle the remaining Haunter, which it did beautifully, winning me the battle, and to top it all off, the level it gained from those two Haunter was finally enough to get Togepi to evolve into a Togetic! :D

Might call it a night soon. In the meantime, here's the team:

Unown (G), genderless, lv. 24
~Hidden Power (Psychic)

[email protected], male, lv. 25
~Headbutt
~Fire Blast
~Rock Smash
~Shadow Ball

[email protected] Claw, male, lv. 24
~Rock Throw
~Dig
~Low Kick
~Strength

[email protected] Bow, male, lv. 24
~Headbutt
~Flash
~Hypnosis
~Nightmare

Qwilfish, female, lv. 24
~Surf
~Headbutt
~Poison Sting
~Minimize

[email protected] Seed, female, lv. 25
~Razor Leaf
~Cut
~Reflect
~Poison Powder

Miror 09-27-2017 02:37 AM

Made my way through Chuck, Jasmine, and Pryce, as well as the Mahogany Town Team Rocket Hideout. Had my first legendary dog sighting (Suicune!), and am now slogging my way through the Radio Tower/Goldenrod Underground. I'd forgotten how constant the poison/paralyze/confusion statuses arose when fighting Team Rocket as well as the assorted Selfdestruct, so that's been fun. Team update is as follows:

Irwin the Male Feraligatr, Level 31
OnePercent the Male Dunsparce, Level 31
Popple the Male Gengar, Level 31
Quetzal the Female Xatu, Level 31
Buster the Male Growlithe, Level 31
Gigan the Male Scyther, Level 31

Raves 09-27-2017 09:58 AM

>Togetic with Shadow Ball

This bothers me in gen 2.

Chalis 09-27-2017 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raves (Post 802744)
>Togetic with Shadow Ball

This bothers me in gen 2.

^

Miror 09-29-2017 04:08 PM

Beat the Elite Four, things weren't too tricky (bar Koga's Crobat just Double Teaming me into purgatory), went through the S.S. Aqua and made it to Kanto. Also finally got a Metal Coat thanks to the grandfather with the lost child on the ship so I finally evolved my Scyther. Now just have to get the Fire Stone from Bill's grandfather and the Psychic TM for Xatu in Saffron if I don't want to wait until level 65 for it to have any Psychic-type move. Team is now as follows:

Irwin the Male Feraligatr, Level 42
OnePercent the Male Dunsparce, Level 41
Popple the Male Gengar, Level 43
Quetzal the Female Xatu, Level 41
Buster the Male Growlithe, Level 41
Gigan the Male Scizor, Level 41

Heather 09-30-2017 12:20 AM

Well after that hellish week I got to a little progress on my nuzlocke...and I was almost up the damn creek without a paddle, because I did not find a Mareep south ofviolet as I'd hoped, but rather an Ekans that Andesite KO'd with a regular Tackle. Thankfully, Amrita the Oddish has given me a Croconaw counter so now I'm not totally screwed! Teamshot:

Lars, Quilava (M) Lv 15
Lark, Pidgey (F) Lv 14
Myrtle, Gastly (F), Lv 14
Andesite, Geodude (M) Lv 15
Pedro, Beedrill (M) Lv 11
Amrita, Oddish (F), Lv 6

Missingno. Master 09-30-2017 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raves (Post 802744)
>Togetic with Shadow Ball

This bothers me in gen 2.

Yeah, I know it's not ideal with Togetic's (lack of) Attack, but it's the only thing on the team that learns it, and the Sp. Def drop could happen, maybe help out Fire Blast a bit sometimes? Worst case scenario, it doesn't do me any good, and I delete it for something else.

Missingno. Master 10-01-2017 05:58 PM

Alright, so, I've been going around, doing stuff with Surf now that I gots me the Fog Badge. On Route 29, after scoring the Rare Candy over in Kanto, ran into Raikou. Had Stantler in the lead, and I know that if Raikou chooses Roar as its move for that turn, its fleeing will have negative priority, so I took a gamble, picked Hypnosis. Sure enough, Hypnosis hits. Feeling daring, I follow up with Nightmare and start chucking Great Balls. Nothing doing. Raikou doesn't wake up, however, and I try fleeing when its HP is at 3/4s, but got "Can't escape!". Now, how does that even? How does that even? It's sound asleep, and would run away itself as soon as it wakes up, and yet, it won't let me flee. I was scared for a second, but miraculously, the fourth bout of Nightmare damage reduced Raikou's HP to what has got to be 1 exactly. Next turn I was able to flee. Learned minutes later that roamers do not retain sleep between battles (ran into it again on Route 30, wasn't even trying!), but still, I just managed to reduce Raikou's HP to exactly 1! I gotta restock on Poké Balls- all I got on me at the moment is a Heavy Ball. I used the last of my Great Balls back on Route 30- used the last one in an attempt to catch Raikou in that encounter where it wasn't asleep anymore. Didn't catch it. But I'll get it.

Will post an update on my team later on, mainly because there's not a lot to update y'all on at the moment. Hoping to get at least one more Gym badge today.

Missingno. Master 10-02-2017 01:36 AM

Wait a minute! What happened there? Chuck's Poliwrath used Mind Reader on Qwilfish. Next turn, it went for Hypnosis, but the move failed! And no, Qwilfish was not already statused. Poliwrath was poisoned, though, and fainted from poison damage that same turn.

Talon87 10-02-2017 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missingno. Master (Post 802889)
Wait a minute! What happened there? Chuck's Poliwrath used Mind Reader on Qwilfish. Next turn, it went for Hypnosis, but the move failed! And no, Qwilfish was not already statused. Poliwrath was poisoned, though, and fainted from poison damage that same turn.

In Generation 2, Qwilfish had the ability Insomnia. This was changed in Generation 3 with the advent of Poison Point to better suit the Pokémon.

... No, but seriously, that sounds sort of like the Gen 1 glitches we often hear about. Like how ATV the Venomoth managed to defeat Lance's Dragonite because lololol Agility was Psychic-type spammed against the Poison-type moth to no effect. I wonder if you have the right idea about the move failing due to Poliwrath's poisoned status. I wonder if you can't replicate it by having one of your Pokémon be deliberately poisoned, attempt to use Mind Reader followed by Hypnosis against an enemy, and see what happens.

Missingno. Master 10-02-2017 02:19 AM

Definitely gotta try to replicate it, yeah. It'll have to wait until I can get a Water Stone, of course, but I'm putting it on my to-do list.

Anyway, though, I've gotten two more badges since this happened. Pryce should be ashamed at how easily a Bayleef ripped through two thirds of his team. And if not ashamed at that, then certainly ashamed of the fact that the only reason said Bayleef didn't rip through his whole team was because I wanted Unown to have a shot against Seel. And as for Jasmine, Sudowoodo took out one Magnemite with Dig. Then came Steelix, and I knew I could trick this one into sealing its own fate. Sure enough, brought out Qwilfish, then switched to Togetic. Sure enough, the presence of a Water-type prompted Steelix to use Sunny Day, paving the way for a nice and toasty Fire Blast. And then another Fire Blast for the remaining Magnemite.

Anyway, now that Team Rocket seems to have taken over the Radio Tower and most of Goldenrod City, this seems like a perfectly reasonable time to call it a night. :) Here's the team:

[email protected] Sand, male, lv. 30
~Rock Slide
~Dig
~Low Kick
~Strength

[email protected] Water, female, lv. 30
~Sludge Bomb
~Surf
~Headbutt
~Icy Wind

Unown (G)@Quick Claw, genderless, lv. 30
~Hidden Power (Psychic)
~-
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~-

[email protected] Bow, male, lv. 30
~Headbutt
~Flash
~Hypnosis
~Nightmare

[email protected], male, lv. 30
~Headbutt
~Fire Blast
~Fly
~Shadow Ball

[email protected] Seed, female, lv. 31
~Razor Leaf
~Body Slam
~Reflect
~Cut

Heather 10-02-2017 09:08 AM

I know at least in generation I, beyond the accuracy check, the opponent had a chance for all status moves that weren't self targeting to just fail for no particular reason. Maybe that's carried over into Gen 2?

Beautiful Savage 10-02-2017 11:01 AM

I have a lot of free time today and you guys have inspired me, so I 'm starting a run of Silver on an emulator (no VC unfortunately). Just to set the mood, I'll be listening to the album Wild Onion by Twin Peaks while doing this. So far my team is:

Archie the Level 6 Totodile! He knows Scratch and Leer! I'll keep popping in as I beat gyms.

Update: Beat Falkner, and my team is as follows:

Archie the Level 11 Totodile
Becca the Level 13 Pidgey
Trish the Level 11 Sentret
Egg the Egg

Update: Beat Bugsy on my second try, got unlucky the first time and got swept by Fury Cutter Scyther. Anyway, my team is as follows:

Archie the Level 16 Totodile
Becca the Level 16 Pidgey
Liz the Level 15 Bellsprout
Cooper the Level 16 Flaaffy
Trish the Level 15 Furret

I also have Egg the Togepi and Taylor the Ekans boxed away, and I'm switching my music from Wild Onion by Twin Peaks to Emotion by Carly Rae Jepsen.

Update: Beat Whitney with Archie's Rage. Take that, bitch. Anyway, my team is as follows:

Archie the Level 19 Croconaw
Nandi the Level 16 Pineco
Cooper the Level 18 Flaaffy
Becca the Level 18 Pidgeotto
Trish the Level 17 Furret
Liz the Level 17 Bellsprout

Trish is likely to go once I find something I like more, and I've been finding Liz a bit underwhelming. I do like grass types though, so I probably won't get rid of her unless I find something I like a lot more.

Missingno. Master 10-02-2017 10:22 PM

Alright, so, I booted Team Rocket out of the Radio Tower (Bayleef evolved in the process), beat Clair, got her useless Dragon Fang (literally useless- in Gen II, the Dragon Fang does nothing whatsoever, its intended effect going to the Dragon Scale instead, little FYI for anyone considering it as a held item for their Dragon-type), then went out and caught all the legendary gerbils. After multiple failures, I went, "fuck it", went and cloned the Master Ball, and just chucked three of them at the beasts. And now, caught me a female Dratini, and she and a certain Red Gyarados are due for a little alone time in the Daycare. I'm gonna get my first Gen II Shiny hunt underway. :)

Missingno. Master 10-04-2017 08:24 PM

So yeah, I decided to put the Shiny hunt on hold for now. I am actually about to take on the Elite Four. The team is as follows:

[email protected], male, lv. 37
~Headbutt
~Fire Blast
~Fly
~Shadow Ball

[email protected] Bow, male, lv. 37
~Headbutt
~Earthquake
~Hypnosis
~Nightmare

[email protected] Sand, male, lv. 37
~Rock Slide
~Dig
~Low Kick
~Strength

Unown (G)@Quick Claw, genderless, lv. 37
~Hidden Power (Psychic)
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[email protected] Water, female, lv. 37
~Sludge Bomb
~Surf
~Icy Wind
~Waterfall

[email protected] Seed, female, lv. 38
~Razor Leaf
~Body Slam
~Reflect
~Cut

SoS 10-04-2017 09:36 PM

So is Unown contributing AT ALL or?

Missingno. Master 10-04-2017 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son_of_Shadows (Post 802969)
So is Unown contributing AT ALL or?

Believe it or not, it has been pulling its weight. Obviously far from the strongest on the team, but it actually took out a good chunk of Koga and Bruno's teams by itself. Also helped out way back against Falkner- only needed it and Chikorita there- against Whitney's Clefairy, and Morty's Gastly, and it really pulled its weight in Mahogany Gym. Granted, all it did against Lance was land a single Hidden Power against Charizard, but overall, I can't say I regret adding Unown to the team. Made for a nice challenge while not being complete dead weight.


And now, here's how the battle against Lance went;

Stantler vs. Gyarados: Stantler outspeeds! Headbutt, Gyarados flinched. Tried a Hypnosis, failed, Gyarados set up Rain Dance. Next Hypnosis succeeded. Followed up with Nightmare. Landed another Headbutt. Gyarados sleeps through it, faints to the Nightmare.

Qwilfish vs. Dragonite: Aaand bringing on the Dragonite already. Only made sense to respond with the quad weakness, so I switched Stantler out for Qwilfish. This time... we did not outspeed. Dragonite OHKO'd with Thunder.

Stantler vs. Dragonite: So yeah, went back out to Stantler. The rain stopped at this point. We outspeed once more, land a Hypnosis on the first try. Follow it up with a Nightmare, and then just start spamming Headbutt. Dragonite falls to this. Stantler even grows to level 39 as a result!

Stantler vs. Dragonite: Yeah, he went for another Dragonite. Figured I'd try the same thing what worked on the first one, and sure enough, landed the first Hypnosis with no problem. Followed up with Nightmare, and started spamming Headbutt, with the same results as last time.

Sudowoodo vs. Aerodactyl: Yeah, I wasn't fool enough to think I outsped that thing. Switched to Sudowoodo, figured I'd take advantage of Sudowoodo's nice Defense. Went for Rock Slide, as did he- difference is, his Rock Slide actually hit. -__- So yeah, tried that again, with better results, actually did some amazing damage. Sudowoodo was low on health by now, so I used a Hyper Potion, and we ate another Rock Slide. And then another one as we went for Rock Slide, and Sudowoodo flinched. Because of course he did. Another Hyper Potion, took another Rock Slide, went for Rock Slide ourselves, took another Rock Slide first, and actually attacked with Rock Slide, and knocked Aerodactyl out! Sudowoodo even leveled up from that!

Unown vs. Charizard: Ordinarily I'd have left Sudowoodo in on this, but it's getting low on HP. And I wanted to give Unown a shot in this battle.It's actually gotten a thing or two done against the Elite Four, and I wanted to afford it the chance to contribute to this victory as well. And the Quick Claw kicked in straightaway, we landed a decent Hidden Power, and got OHKO'd by Flamethrower immediately after.

Togetic vs. Charizard: Used this opportunity to Hyper Potion Sudowoodo. Took a Flamethrower for our troubles, and even got burned. Even Togetic's high Sp. Def didn't save it from taking over half its health- suddenly Unown losing to this doesn't make it seem as pathetic. Got KO'd by Flamethrower the very next turn.

Sudowoodo vs. Charizard: Now Sudowoodo, here's a Pokémon who takes those Flamethrowers like a champ! Didn't even lose half its health, and finished off Charizard with Rock Slide!

Meganium vs. Dragonite: Made a switch just to throw up a Reflect against Lance's strongest, and was immediately force-fed a Fire Blast, which Meganium survived with 4 HP! She got burned, but thanks to how things worked back then, she didn't get immediately KO'd by burn damage, giving me a perfect chance to heal her up with a Full Restore. My aim was to paralyze with Body Slam. And then came the Outrage. Meganium took that much better, but the Body Slam didn't paralyze, and she fainted to Outrage.

Stantler vs. Dragonite: For the first time in this battle, I brought out Stantler against something he didn't outspeed. But Outrage didn't KO, which is nice. Less nice, however, is the fact that Hypnosis missed. Promptly went for the Hyper Potion, after which Dragonite hurt itself in its confusion. Went for Hypnosis again, after Dragonite hurt itself again, and this one hit! And then I went for Nightmare so of course Lance whips out the Full Freaking Restore. -__- Go for Hypnosis again, and certain death via Hyper Beam- STANTLER HELD ON WITH TWO HIT POINTS! Moreover, Dragonite couldn't possibly wake up the next turn, as it had to recharge, so guaranteed Nightmare! Used another Hyper Potion, Lance healed Dragonite with a Full Heal, but it... took Nightmare damage anyway?! What?! Uh... OK, Dragonite used Hyper Beam, this time OHKOing.

Sudowoodo vs. Dragonite: Dragonite recharged, taking Nightmare damage again despite being awake, Sudowoodo went for Rock Slide... missed. Not at full health, so I went for a Hyper Potion, and Dragonite went for Outrage, doing immense damage. But not enough to KO, so I went for another Hyper Potion. Sudowoodo hung on with 5 HP this time. Used yet another Hyper Potion- and Dragonite's taking Nightmare damage the whole time, here!- and Dragonite uses Outrage... And doesn't KO Sudowoodo! And faints from Nightmare damage! Sudowoodo grew to level 40 And I win! I WIN!! I WIN!!!!!

Slash 10-16-2017 12:22 PM

Got both because of course I did.

On Silver, I'm abusing glitches. Mostly the PC glitch. And so I did the starter trick (on the first bit, I went far enough to get the Egg and hatch it). And, without any SR or trickery other than the PC glitch itself, I ended up with a shiny Mareep, a Togepi, all three starters. Oh, and all of them were female. I have Starter and Mareep clones already queued up for transfer when G/S-Bank compatibility opens in a month. And while I've played with the cloning, I have not cloned a single Rare Candy because that just ruins the fun. While I have all 3 Starters, not using any of them in my team. Beat Whitney with Skiploom and Togepi, which was fun. Paraflinchfusion on Miltank for days, with -6 ACC and ATK. Have gone through most of Johto thus far, currently about to start to kick TR out of the Radio Tower (spoilers!).

Team:
Skarmory (M) Lv 30
Peck/Mud-Slap/Swift/Agility

Scyther (M) Lv 35 @ King's Rock
Headbutt/False Swipe/Rock Smash/Wing Attack

Ledian (F) Lv 36 @ Nevermeltice
Ice Punch/Thunderpunch/Safeguard/Baton Pass

Ampharos (F) shiny Lv 36 @ Magnet
Thunderpunch/Fire Punch/Thunder Wave

I also have a Hoothoot and Red Gyara as HM slaves


On Gold, I am not using any of the glitches, just straight playing it. I'm also doing my best to stay to a consistent team, one of only Gen II Pokemon (though I have had to rely on some non-Gen II for things like BCC and HMs). Highlights include using Togepi + Spinarak to kill Whitney's Miltank of Death. Progress is up to beating Morty.

Team:
Segundo: Ariados (M) Lv 27
Poison Sting/Night Shade/Scary Face/Leech Life (Ariados has a terrible learnset! by level)

Gloves: Aipom (M) Lv 27
Strength/Rock Smash/Baton Pass/Swift

Uriel: Togetic (M) Lv 29
Headbutt/Charm/Mud-Slap/Sweet Kiss

Fang: Feraligatr (M) Lv 30
Headbutt/Rage/Bite/Surf

So, two plays in very different directions, fun in their own ways.


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