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Lady Kuno 11-18-2016 07:08 AM

Sun & Moon Playthroughs
 
The games are out! Hurray! Feel free to use this thread to talk about your progress and your team and other stuff about the game. However you should probably put plot spoilers in a tag to be nice to people.


I got to play a little bit early so I'm a tiny bit ahead of some people. However I am a completionist so I don't like to advance until I got everything. So I'm only on the second island. I'm also... playing both games at the same time. Sun is using XP share and Moon isn't.

Current Progress:
Moon
Level 23 Torracat
Level 20 Butterfree

Sun
Level 25 Dartix
Level 23 Magnemite


Not sure who the 3rd on both teams should be. My Moon team gets destroyed by Rock and my Sun team doesn't do too well against fires. For Sun I'm considering a Flash Fire Growlithe but I'd like maybe a new Fire type if any show up. Not sure how to deal with the Rock weakness on Moon since a ground, fighting or steel would still have two of my Pokemon other weaknesses. Oh well. Magnemite learned Fighting type Hidden Power which.. should be interesting.

Also clothes are really expensive god damn.

The Morg 11-18-2016 09:33 AM

You have both? I know what you're doing in there... Not subtle at all!

Doppleganger 11-18-2016 09:36 AM

Stop trading with yourself, Kuno, there are children on this forum!!

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LUSAMINE

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE HAG HENTAI

WHICH IS A STRANGE FEELING CONSIDERING SHE'S MY WIFE

Lady Kuno 11-18-2016 10:41 AM

I found out how to get Feebas in Sun/Moon. Probably old news for everyone but

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In Brooklet Hill you have to fish only at the spots where there is rippling water for a chance to find it. The ripple moves after a catch or if you "run" with Lapras while moving around. The ripples seem to move in a set order. I spent a lot of time fishing at random and surfing and couldn't find shit, I only saw it on a ripple (only saw a wild Washiwashi at a ripple too).

Missingno. Master 11-18-2016 03:42 PM

Working my way up to my first trial (first one on the second island, anyway). And man, did they ramp up the difficulty in this game! That one Ace Trainer who makes use of Red Cards? He swept me the first time around! Freaking Stealth Rock on his Rockruff, and he was able to take out Torracat and Rockruff in just one turn, taking advantage of how slow his Slowpoke was! Like, Torracat attacked, activated the Red Card, had to bring in Rockruff, which Slowpoke KO'd with Water Gun, and then bringing Torracat back in finished it off from the Stealth Rock. I mean, I couldn't even stay mad at that, I was that impressed with how strategic that was! Team right now is as follows;

Rockruff lv. 20 (male) @Hard Stone
Bashful nature
Vital Spirit
~Rock Throw
~Bite
~Howl
~Sand Attack

Torracat lv. 24 (male) @Normalium Z
Adamant nature
Blaze
~Fire Fang
~Scratch
~Work Up
~Bite

Yeah, I know, Breakneck Blitz off of Scratch ain't exactly the best Z-move out there, but it's all I can do at the moment, and it's been a big help more than once.

Jerichi 11-18-2016 04:53 PM

Man I have to say I did not anticipate this game being legitimately challenging for a Pokémon game after the rather sad displays of difficulty we had for the last two. Turning off the EXP share genuinely puts you behind the level curve.

Thank god I'm not Nuzlocking because I would have wiped at least 5 times so far.

Missingno. Master 11-18-2016 05:33 PM

Just beat Totem Wishiwashi! This was the one I was nervous about, I'm not gonna lie. How I did it was, I led with a Steenee, and on a hunch, switched to Torracat. I was right- I had baited Wishiwashi into using Soak, turning Torracat into a Water-type. From there, I used a Dire Hit, spammed Work Up, couple Bites and a Breakneck Blitz later, victory!

EDIT: ...I am going to be rich by the time I actually catch a Mareanie. I've fished up tons of Pearls, a couple of Big Pearls, and even a Pearl String, but no Corsola yet.

EDIT II: OK, so it seems that you can save in front of rippling fishing spots, fish something up, reset if you no like, and it still ripples. I'm trying that now to get Corsola to show its face.

satosere 11-18-2016 11:50 PM

OML this game is AWESOME! It's so much better than X and Y, story wise.

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I do have to say that Lillie is a weenie lol

Missingno. Master 11-19-2016 12:05 AM

So Mareanie is the cutest thing in the history of existence.

big bad birtha 11-19-2016 04:12 AM

I just finished the first Island. I'm taking this pretty slowly for the most part. For almost the entire first island, I couldn't make up my mind on who I want on my party, so Torracat has been doing everything. I found the holy sanctuary of Petililis, so I captured one of those. I just have to figure out whether or not I can get it a sun stone before level 28. Despair hit me when Mr. Move Professor went to show me how to use Z Moves. He went to fight....a wild fucking Growlithe. A wild Growlithe when I wanted to use a Vulpix. So much for messing with that adorable white thing!

Difficulty-wise, I came across a few hurdles here and there, but for the most part, Torracat just crushes everything. That may change in island 2, which kind of worries me. Petilili can't do much until she evolves. A Pichu that I just happened to come across and catch has been surprisingly helpful. In a few battles that almost led to my demise, he landed some helpful ailments and debuffs.

I have been having some immature fun with the theme-park thing. One funny thing is that any time you are asked a personal question, in an attempt to not hurt the player's feelings, it will always have a good response. I have answered in the most sleazeball ways possible, but the person always responds positively.

"What kind of people are your friends?"
"Old men (female character)"

"Do you ever keep secrets?"
"Never."

Also any time I come across a guy with a design I don't like, I always tell him that he'll love the Ball Shop. I'm sure he'll love to eat there with his damn skull tanktop and black everything. When I saw the comments about trainers, I thought I hit a gold mine in the "favorite trainers" bit, because "Preschoolers" are trainers, but sadly instead of "I like boy preschoolers.", it's "I like battling boy preschoolers.". I guess they saw that coming.

(very minor plot spoilers)
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I actually kind of like Team Skull. They're dumbasses like anime Team Rocket, but they're actually funny. I can't help but laugh every time they show up.

Lady Kuno 11-19-2016 04:13 AM

I added an Araquanid to my Sun team and a Formantis to my Moon team. \o/ I have a bug type on both of my 3-pokemon teams. >_>

Twitch Plays Pokemon is also playing Sun if you want to watch them send all their party Pokemon to a box when they catch a Pokemon and be stuck in Festival Plaza for all eternity.


ALSO I figured out how to FINALLY get a Happiny to appear.

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A Muchlax has to call for help for it to show up

big bad birtha 11-19-2016 10:20 AM

You can also get her in the first city if you chain Pichu.

Lady Kuno 11-19-2016 12:29 PM

I'm thinking of dropping Araquanid from my Sun team. It's speed is so bad. While it's Special Def stat is nuts, all its other stats are kinda underwhelming.

Edit: I just looked up Water Bubble and it has a hidden "water moves do double damage" thing.. oh. That's a game changer.

Missingno. Master 11-19-2016 12:35 PM

Alright, I'm on the third island. Team's looking pretty decent, here it is thus far;

Golisopod (male) lv. 33 @Waterium Z
Bashful nature
Emergency Exit
~Leech Life
~Scald
~First Impression
~Sucker Punch

Salazzle (female) lv. 33 @Firium Z
Relaxed nature
Corrosion
~Flame Burst
~Venoshock
~Dragon Rage
~Nasty Plot

Mareanie (female) lv. 33 @Waterium Z
Calm nature
Limber
~Scald
~Venoshock
~Toxic
~Recover

Midnight Lycanroc (male) lv. 33 @Rockium Z
Bashful nature
Vital Spirit
~Rock Tomb
~Brick Break
~Bite
~Rock Polish

Incineroar (male) lv. 35 @Firium Z
Adamant nature
Blaze
~Fire Fang
~Darkest Lariat
~Leech Life
~Bulk Up

Lady Kuno 11-19-2016 02:24 PM

Apparently friendship stays even if you trade. Traded my starter to my other game for dex, traded back, and found an NPC that says how friendly someone is. It's at a very high level.

Schala 11-19-2016 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Kuno (Post 775133)
I'm thinking of dropping Araquanid from my Sun team. It's speed is so bad. While it's Special Def stat is nuts, all its other stats are kinda underwhelming.

Edit: I just looked up Water Bubble and it has a hidden "water moves do double damage" thing.. oh. That's a game changer.

Yeah, it might have some mediocre stats, but Water Bubble more than makes up for it.

It gets a Water type Crunch, Liquidation, late game. So couple that with an immunity to Burn, and double the base damage (170 Base Power with a defense drop on the opposing Pokemon for Liquidation), plus the fact that "all water moves" includes the water z move, and you can see some of the reasons that Araquanid is one of my favorites this gen. One of the others being that I'm a sucker for spiders.

Lady Kuno 11-19-2016 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schala (Post 775146)
Yeah, it might have some mediocre stats, but Water Bubble more than makes up for it.

It gets a Water type Crunch, Liquidation, late game. So couple that with an immunity to Burn, and double the base damage (170 Base Power with a defense drop on the opposing Pokemon for Liquidation), plus the fact that "all water moves" includes the water z move, and you can see some of the reasons that Araquanid is one of my favorites this gen. One of the others being that I'm a sucker for spiders.

Yeah, god damn. I was reading some number testing and it even freaking out damages Keldeo with Hydro Pump. Like.. holy shit. It basically has Thick Fat, super Adaptability, and Water Veil all in one ability? Who approved that? On top of that it has absolute sick Sp.Def, and Assault Vest + Leech Life makes it obscene. Especially with that Leech Life boost. You can also run it for Doubles with Wide Guard + Entrainment.

Water types got soooo much good shit this gen. Hello rain, my old friend.

Connor 11-19-2016 04:23 PM

The crazier thing is that for some reason the ability description prioritised Fire and burn resistance above "all my Water moves have double power".

Emi 11-19-2016 04:24 PM

Why run AV and Leech Life (when sadly its just not going to do a lot of damage) when you can run Band and murder everything?

(You can, and should, also run Scald.)

Raves 11-19-2016 04:37 PM

Why run Scald when you can run Lunge, which drops the foe's attack every time it lands and hits just as hard as Leech Life?

Especially given that terrible base 50 SA.

Schala 11-19-2016 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Kuno (Post 775148)
Yeah, god damn. I was reading some number testing and it even freaking out damages Keldeo with Hydro Pump. Like.. holy shit. It basically has Thick Fat, super Adaptability, and Water Veil all in one ability? Who approved that? On top of that it has absolute sick Sp.Def, and Assault Vest + Leech Life makes it obscene. Especially with that Leech Life boost. You can also run it for Doubles with Wide Guard + Entrainment.

Water types got soooo much good shit this gen. Hello rain, my old friend.

I can't wait to see the hilarious things people pull off in doubles. People were running damage calcs swapping Water Bubble to Kyogre in the discovery thread, for example. Araquanid also gets Power Split if you want to do a defensive spread and then buff the Attack off of an opponent's physical sweeper. And they nerfed Gale Wing Talonflame hard this gen! It is a good gen for bugs!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor (Post 775149)
The crazier thing is that for some reason the ability description prioritised Fire and burn resistance above "all my Water moves have double power".

Classic Gamefreak, I suppose. This isn't the first time they've left things out of descriptions, though it might be the biggest hidden buff ever.

Emi 11-19-2016 04:40 PM

Scald still does better damage because of Water Bubble.

Lady Kuno 11-19-2016 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emi (Post 775154)
Scald still does better damage because of Water Bubble.

Its attack is higher than its special attack. As for band and stuff, I generally like more versitile sets. Leech Life is SE against stuff that might resist water. Plus sometimes the element of surprise can win things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schala (Post 775153)
I can't wait to see the hilarious things people pull off in doubles. People were running damage calcs swapping Water Bubble to Kyogre in the discovery thread, for example. Araquanid also gets Power Split if you want to do a defensive spread and then buff the Attack off of an opponent's physical sweeper. And they nerfed Gale Wing Talonflame hard this gen! It is a good gen for bugs!


Classic Gamefreak, I suppose. This isn't the first time they've left things out of descriptions, though it might be the biggest hidden buff ever.

What happened to Gale Wing? I heard all the -ite abilities (Pixilate, etc) got reduced damage boosts. Part of why I like Araquanid is potential Doubles craziness. I'm pumped. I wanna use one on either a singles or doubles team so bad.

Schala 11-19-2016 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Kuno (Post 775155)
What happened to Gale Wing? I heard all the -ite abilities (Pixilate, etc) got reduced damage boosts. Part of why I like Araquanid is potential Doubles craziness. I'm pumped. I wanna use one on either a singles or doubles team so bad.

It only works when HP is full now. Meaning no priority Roost, and no priority Brave Bird after the first. It's a huge nerf.

Hanatori 11-19-2016 05:28 PM

Current team on Moon, just out of Diglett's Cave:

Lv. 26 Dartrix
Lv. 25 Crabrawler
Lv. 25 Ribombee
Lv. 26 Oricorio (Pom-Pom)
Lv. 24 Salandit

I caught a shiny Salandit, but it's not the Salandit I'm using. Pom-Pom Oricorio has been my MVP on this island so far, even without an Electric STAB move, thanks to her being able to use both Feather Dance and Confide. I was intrigued at the comments here about how difficult the level curve gets when you turn Exp. Share off, so I switched it off somewhere before Lana's trial and can feel the level curve gradually catching up.

Has the "baby Pokemon have three perfect IVs" thing been maintained this gen? I've been wondering about it with all the wild baby 'mon running around.


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