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Shuckle 06-05-2016 06:40 AM

Pokemon GO!
I suppose now's the time to talk about this, considering the beta's been out for a while and been playtested to death.


You know pretty much everything important already. Your phone becomes a Poke-Locator using its GPS to find and catch Pokemon in the wild.

Unfortunately, it seems the designers have decided to indulge in creativity, and the product we all have been waiting for is noticeably not what we were expecting!

First of all, social content is way down. The current beta edition does not support battles between friends. This is likely to change, but in general you can probably expect to see a focus on cooperation over competition, with some benefits given to solo play (in case you live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and have no friends). There is also the choice of joining global (and I assume possibly local) "teams" to attack and defend Gyms.

Next, and easily the worst thing to happen in a Pokemon game, even worse than Musicals; rather than apply the traditional, time-honored Pokemon fantasy of taking your favorite Pokemon and raising it to be a powerful fighting machine, the developers have opted to follow the "catch 'em all!" route. Because this isn't Pokemon, it's Ingress.

In order to evolve Pokemon, you must collect shards through catching other Pokemon of the same species. Your goal is completionism. Oh, and some Pokemon naturally have better potential than others, so that first Pokemon you caught? Yeah, it's shit and you'll have to get rid of it if you want to stay competitive.

/r/PokemonGo is fairly heavy with feedback about wanting a personal adventure. Pokemon players don't want to play Ingress: Pokemon Edition, they want to play Pokemon: Ingress Edition.

When I was a kid I used to play Pokemon Trainer with my brother and sister using my TCG cards; I raised up an Abra to an Alakazam and he raised up a Growlithe to an Arcanine. I have cute fond memories of running around the house like a little maniac with a pair of spoons and a yellow marker mustache while my younger brother put on tiger pyjamas and scampered around on all fours.

If Pokemon Go earns even a dime of my money, it's going to be because it managed to scratch that itch for adventure and excitement. I'm not a collector, I'm a leader, as ridiculous as that sounds, and if I'm going to be the general of my Pokemon army it's not going to be because I hunted down all the best kinds and discarded anyone who wasn't up to standards. I will have my favorites and I will raise them to be the strongest around under my expert guidance; THAT'S the power fantasy I'm looking for, and judging by the comments on /r/pokemongo I'm not the only one who feels this way.


"It wasn’t totally accidental. Google had worked with Pokémon on a Google Maps mashup for April Fool’s three years ago. We had some experience building a mini-product with them. We actually used the same company to do the launch video for Pokémon Go as worked on the April Fool’s video." - Hanke

I personally predict that the game will do well for itself initially, with plenty of downloads, but end up as a total flop when buyers realize that this isn't the product they wanted. We may never see the Pokemon Go that we were promised, as Niantic will probably take this as a "Pokemon fans are dumb and don't understand how geolocation games work" and never try again.

Pleeeeease don't fuck this up.

Okay, I've blabbered on enough. Discuss your disappointment with Niantic in this thread I guess, as well as the hopes and dreams that they've shattered with this new development.

Mercutio 06-05-2016 07:17 AM

I mean. I just naturally assumed that this is what the game would end up being like. Some people want to play catch 'em all and that is a totally legitimate thing to make as a product. It is also, quite candidly, much easier to sell to your average person than what you are talking about. This is a phone game.

Rest assured. This will make a shitton of money.

Shuckle 06-05-2016 07:15 PM

So. Directly after I posted my ranty whiny bitch post, Niantic released more information in the form of a big leak.

You are now capable of giving your Pokemon nicknames, increasing its CP (which is the built-in potential level, so to speak), and training/evolving it without farming pokemon.

It looks like Go! is going to be fun after all :) This is a huge relief. I was so worried about the future of "real-world Pokemon" after this and I think it'll not only be a success, but a success in the right direction.

jumpfight5 06-19-2016 11:21 PM

When I first heard about the "Catch multiple Pokemon to evolve them" I thought you'd need, say, 3 Squirtles to make a Wartortle, and then 3 Wartortle to make a Blastoise, and I was confused with the "okay, so where do their stats go" thing. Shards is definitely a better idea, and I think mixing levelling with shards would be a good addition as well. So, at level 16, Squirtle needs 10 shards to evolve, but at, say, level 25, it would only need 2 or 3. It would allow people to play the Geolocation game, and it would let people play the Pokemon game. I guess the only issue would be balancing, which is straightforward enough...Right?

dirkac 07-09-2016 04:43 AM

So after two days of the Servers being down and being unable to login through my TPC account...

My progress is wiped and I have to restart ._.

Oh well, was only Level 6 and only had four Pokémon (Bulbasaur, Gastly, Staryu, and Spearow), but still :/

Team Mystic ftw btw

rotomotorz 07-09-2016 09:40 PM

Team Instinct

deoxys 07-09-2016 11:04 PM


Escalion 07-10-2016 01:46 AM

Mystic all the way!

And while I know GO isn't officially out here, I'm not the only one in town playing xD
There's already a war going on over the 2 gyms in the centre of town.

And then there's a gym at the far edge of town, close to my home, which I "own" all by myself with a low-level Zubat for a few days already because just no one under 60 ever goes there.

RealMrGame10 07-10-2016 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by rotomotorz (Post 758191)
Team Instinct


dirkac 07-10-2016 04:08 AM

Yeah, the entirety of my town is basically in one massive turf war between Valor and Mystic.

I have never seen an Instinct Gym in my town, despite having 6.

PikaGod 07-10-2016 04:18 AM

Downloaded Go... only to realise that its literally useless where I live. yaaaay

Escalion 07-10-2016 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by dirkac (Post 758236)
Yeah, the entirety of my town is basically in one massive turf war between Valor and Mystic.

I have never seen an Instinct Gym in my town, despite having 6.

Same in my town, but than with Instinct and Mystic. The two gyms in the centre switch sides every day here. 2x a day in weekends going by this weekend so far xD

Yet to see team Valor join in here.

Mercutio 07-10-2016 05:11 AM

What? Don't be like that. Pokémon Go may not be great where you live, but you can always use it on your travels, and you know that they'll update it further with time.

Besides, if you don't get Pokémon Go, you'lll miss out on the chance to discover a corpse and other fun activities.

(I was so caught up in assuming that Pokémon Go would be a disgusting corporate jerkoff I didn't even think about what a terrible idea it is in execution)

Lil'twick 07-10-2016 05:27 AM

I've been getting around a lot more and been walking a lot since GO came out. I've walked roughly 7 miles since the game came out and in all honesty my body feels a lot better.

PikaGod 07-10-2016 05:35 AM

I live on a farm with no reception. Like its literally useless to me, and I'm not going to waste the fuel and time it would take to drive into town to play it.

Muyotwo 07-10-2016 09:30 AM

A conversation with one of my friends pretty much sums up the Pokemon Go experience.


[11:23:03 PM] Nick: You need to actually walk.
[11:23:10 PM] Garrett: oh

Heather 07-10-2016 09:42 AM

There's a Gym near where I work (not in my range when I'm there, but visible) that's solidly team valor, like me.

rotomotorz 07-10-2016 10:37 PM

Me and my fellow Team Instinct neighbors have acquired the neighborhood gym and its defended by 6 Pokemon right now

However, 5 of them are birds and I know someone who is on the other team and has a Jolteon

The Morg 07-11-2016 11:48 AM

Breaking news from UPN meetup:

Jeri having trouble throwing straight

KamenAeons 07-11-2016 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by The Morg (Post 758495)
Breaking news from UPN meetup:

Jeri having trouble throwing straight

That feel. I understand it. *glances at Blastoise that took 40 balls to catch because WHAT IS CURVEBALL ACCURACY*

Heather 07-11-2016 02:51 PM

Send help, one of my coworkers is a dirty mystic sympathizer

Lady Kuno 07-11-2016 03:08 PM

So my summer classes have me in downtown Manhattan on the 20th floor.

My GPS has a hard time figuring out where I am so it has me walking everywhere.

I hatched around 10 eggs, made 5 levels, and got a shit ton of Pokemon (although the 800cp ivysaur crashed on me rip).

Running away seems to happen when you get too far from the Pokemon. I had a lot of stuff run from me during my crazy running around adventures.

Lil'twick 07-11-2016 04:32 PM

Guys look what I got.

I'm sure his namesake would be proud.

Zelphon 07-11-2016 04:34 PM

Something seems seriously wrong with that Relicanth

Missingno. Master 07-11-2016 04:37 PM

OK, I don't live near any lakes, rivers, or streams, and the Water-types just keep pouring in (bad pun fully intended). I just caught a freaking Dewgong in my own house. And then there's the Seel, the Krabby, the Goldeen, not to mention the Horsea I was informed were in the area, though I never actually encountered any.

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